Comments on: Gore Wars! Right and Left Punch It Out Over Al’s Energy Consumption http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/ Causes Entertainment Lifestyle Pop Culture Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Here We Go Again: Right-Wing Group Slams Gore’s Energy Consumption, Miss Big Picture // Archives // ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-102817 Here We Go Again: Right-Wing Group Slams Gore’s Energy Consumption, Miss Big Picture // Archives // ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:29:08 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=1710#comment-102817 [...] year, just as Al Gore was enjoying his Oscar for An Inconvenient Truth, a little group called the Tennessee Center for Policy Research released a report slamming the former Vice-President on his home energy consumption. It was later revealed that the [...] [...] year, just as Al Gore was enjoying his Oscar for An Inconvenient Truth, a little group called the Tennessee Center for Policy Research released a report slamming the former Vice-President on his home energy consumption. It was later revealed that the [...]

]]> By: ecorazzi.com :: celebrities caught green-handed » Schwarzenegger’s Jet Travel To Be Offset With Green Credits http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-7595 ecorazzi.com :: celebrities caught green-handed » Schwarzenegger’s Jet Travel To Be Offset With Green Credits Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:05:33 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=1710#comment-7595 [...] going to take a green position, you better back up your talk with some action. As Al Gore found out last week, there are always people watching ready to jump at any opportunity to discredit your [...] [...] going to take a green position, you better back up your talk with some action. As Al Gore found out last week, there are always people watching ready to jump at any opportunity to discredit your [...]

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-7094 Jonathan Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:20:30 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=1710#comment-7094 Maybe Gore should visit afreshsqueeze.com. A Fresh Squeeze is Chicago's place for information on green living. Our twice-weekly emails provide useful, interesting ideas on how to make your life a little greener. We'll tell you about the best organic sandwich in the city, little-known bike paths, the newest sustainable furniture store and much, much more. Subscribe for free today at www.afreshsqueeze.com Maybe Gore should visit afreshsqueeze.com. A Fresh Squeeze is Chicago’s place for information on green living. Our twice-weekly emails provide useful, interesting ideas on how to make your life a little greener. We’ll tell you about the best organic sandwich in the city, little-known bike paths, the newest sustainable furniture store and much, much more. Subscribe for free today at http://www.afreshsqueeze.com

]]> By: richard schumacher http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-7046 richard schumacher Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:35:00 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=1710#comment-7046 So, global warming deniers are reduced to picking over Al Gore's utility bills. This shows that they have nothing of substance to whine about. So, global warming deniers are reduced to picking over Al Gore’s utility bills. This shows that they have nothing of substance to whine about.

]]> By: Green City Monkey http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-6993 Green City Monkey Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:27:52 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=1710#comment-6993 I think it is important in these debates to not lump all carbon offset programs together. While conservation is always better than offsets, some offset programs are more direct than others. For example, in Seattle and many other cities, residents can "Green Up" their electricity. They pay and extra fee each month (about $12) and the utility agrees to provide the % of power that those residents use from Solar and Wind sources. So while the power going to that residents home may no be directly wind or solar (because it all gets added to the grid and mixed together) the power that they are using is from renewable resources. While it is not an excuse to leave the light bulb on while you are out of the house it is alot more practical for people who live in climates where solar is less efficient or in dense areas where having your own windmill isn't allowed. Offsetting resources that can't be renewable, like natural gas or driving is more tricky. You are usually buying something like tree planting, which has questionable efficacy or paying for other people's projects to build more renewable infastructure or efficiency projects but that can lead to a lot of double counting etc. In general, I don't think there is any harm from off-setting for things like flying or driving or using natural gas as long as people realize that indirect off-setting doesn't really make their impact zero. (I do it for those times when I need to drive, fly, or for things like heating that are much more efficient in my area to do by gas. If nothing else, if forces you to calcualte how much carbon you are using.) There are also ways to off-set your indirect emissions from the things you purchase, etc. which I think someone needs to do before they can say that they have totally offset. So, on Gore, I think that as a leader he has on obligation to do all that he can to cut back before he just off-sets, increased insullation, efficient appliances, perhaps considering a smaller home? I don't know how expensive gas is in his part of the country or if the $1000 per month includes his green credits as well as the gas. It seems high for a single family but I don't feel like I have all the facts to really know. I think it is important in these debates to not lump all carbon offset programs together. While conservation is always better than offsets, some offset programs are more direct than others. For example, in Seattle and many other cities, residents can “Green Up” their electricity. They pay and extra fee each month (about $12) and the utility agrees to provide the % of power that those residents use from Solar and Wind sources. So while the power going to that residents home may no be directly wind or solar (because it all gets added to the grid and mixed together) the power that they are using is from renewable resources. While it is not an excuse to leave the light bulb on while you are out of the house it is alot more practical for people who live in climates where solar is less efficient or in dense areas where having your own windmill isn’t allowed. Offsetting resources that can’t be renewable, like natural gas or driving is more tricky. You are usually buying something like tree planting, which has questionable efficacy or paying for other people’s projects to build more renewable infastructure or efficiency projects but that can lead to a lot of double counting etc. In general, I don’t think there is any harm from off-setting for things like flying or driving or using natural gas as long as people realize that indirect off-setting doesn’t really make their impact zero. (I do it for those times when I need to drive, fly, or for things like heating that are much more efficient in my area to do by gas. If nothing else, if forces you to calcualte how much carbon you are using.) There are also ways to off-set your indirect emissions from the things you purchase, etc. which I think someone needs to do before they can say that they have totally offset. So, on Gore, I think that as a leader he has on obligation to do all that he can to cut back before he just off-sets, increased insullation, efficient appliances, perhaps considering a smaller home? I don’t know how expensive gas is in his part of the country or if the $1000 per month includes his green credits as well as the gas. It seems high for a single family but I don’t feel like I have all the facts to really know.

]]> By: PUREGREENCARS.com - BLOG » Critics take spotlight off Al Gore’s green effort, shine it on his personal consumption http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-6955 PUREGREENCARS.com - BLOG » Critics take spotlight off Al Gore’s green effort, shine it on his personal consumption Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:40:27 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=1710#comment-6955 [...] release of his Academy Award-winning documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth.” Ecorazzi has balanced out the critics, saying Gore is offsetting his energy use by purchasing blocks of green power. He’s also [...] [...] release of his Academy Award-winning documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth.” Ecorazzi has balanced out the critics, saying Gore is offsetting his energy use by purchasing blocks of green power. He’s also [...]

]]> By: Tod Brilliant http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-6914 Tod Brilliant Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:15:11 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=1710#comment-6914 A waste of time, really. He spent eight years doing nothing for the environment - if you really want to bash him. Point his, his movie (I prefer to think of it as Laurie David's movie, as I'm in love with her efforts) has done so much darned good. The SEQUEL to this movie - well, there's a wee sneak peak about it on my site -- click above. (I know, it's a site that has an eerily similar theme . . .really, I want a new look but this one is s-o-o good and the price is just right - I made a donation!). A waste of time, really. He spent eight years doing nothing for the environment – if you really want to bash him. Point his, his movie (I prefer to think of it as Laurie David’s movie, as I’m in love with her efforts) has done so much darned good.

The SEQUEL to this movie – well, there’s a wee sneak peak about it on my site — click above.

(I know, it’s a site that has an eerily similar theme . . .really, I want a new look but this one is s-o-o good and the price is just right – I made a donation!).

]]> By: becky http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-6907 becky Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:58:04 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=1710#comment-6907 Interesting...I'm glad to see some research on this. :) Thanks Michael! What I would find interesting is perhaps an article on carbon offsets like 'kevin smith' above mentioned. I like the corrleation idea between sins and that, but I'd like to see what the readers of EcoRazzi think. Interesting…I’m glad to see some research on this. :) Thanks Michael! What I would find interesting is perhaps an article on carbon offsets like ‘kevin smith’ above mentioned. I like the corrleation idea between sins and that, but I’d like to see what the readers of EcoRazzi think.

]]> By: SEattle34 http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-6867 SEattle34 Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:08:14 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=1710#comment-6867 If you go to TerraPass.com you'll see you can purchase CO2 offsets for a year of Hummer driving (12K miles) for...get this...$79. Be extremely suspicious of anyone stating they are buying CO2 offsets for their activity. If "going green" cost just $79 per year for the driver of a Hummer, we wouldn't be having this debate. You'd need about 1000 gallons of gas to push that Hummer 12K miles for the year. That's about $2600. Do you think the oil companies would be freaking out about global warming if all it took to fix was an extra $79 on a $2600 fuel bill? If you go to TerraPass.com you’ll see you can purchase CO2 offsets for a year of Hummer driving (12K miles) for…get this…$79.

Be extremely suspicious of anyone stating they are buying CO2 offsets for their activity. If “going green” cost just $79 per year for the driver of a Hummer, we wouldn’t be having this debate.

You’d need about 1000 gallons of gas to push that Hummer 12K miles for the year. That’s about $2600. Do you think the oil companies would be freaking out about global warming if all it took to fix was an extra $79 on a $2600 fuel bill?

]]> By: Gary http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/02/27/gore-wars-right-and-left-punch-it-out-over-als-energy-consumption/comment-page-1/#comment-6851 Gary Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:48:37 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=1710#comment-6851 Another rich person's folly. I can't afford to purchase credits so I can use 10 times the power with a clear conscience. Also, Gore's natural gas use is over $1000 a month. Gore is green alright (as in greenbacks). Gary Another rich person’s folly. I can’t afford to purchase credits so I can use 10 times the power with a clear conscience. Also, Gore’s natural gas use is over $1000 a month.

Gore is green alright (as in greenbacks).

Gary

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