Comments on: Burning Man 2007: The Green Man http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/05/04/burning-man-2007-the-green-man/ Causes Entertainment Lifestyle Pop Culture Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:37:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: rich_le_mond http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/05/04/burning-man-2007-the-green-man/comment-page-1/#comment-32891 rich_le_mond Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:30:12 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=2425#comment-32891 although a lot of people seem to be making good efforts, burningman is NOT green and will not be for a long time, because: -50,000 people use mainly fossil fuels to travel long distances to get there and back -lots of generators burn fossil fuels for a week to power RVs, soundsystems, etc, with minimal emissions controls -burning of the man and its platform, art installations, and lots of random items from individuals, creates toxic airborne pollutants -there is a large consumption of resources for use in art installations, shelters, camps, etc and in all likelihood these things may only be used once, then sit in some dusty san francisco basement for eternity -it seems like every other car on its way to bman stops at wal-mart to pick up a shopping cart full of plastic crap like squirt guns, disposable forks, balloons, etc etc i've been to the event three times and i'm not knocking it, but there IS a lot of greenwashing going on this year considering what actually happens at the event. also, from the burningman LLC environmental statement: "Black Rock City LLC is committed to utilizing environmentally favorable solutions as they become financially sound alternatives to the use of fossil fuels and non-renewable materials." i think we can agree that EVERYONE wants to use green solutions AS THEY BECOME FINANCIALLY SOUND, right? so basically this event will not become green until society as a whole becomes green, and starts making things like solar technologies viable for people of all income levels. although a lot of people seem to be making good efforts, burningman is NOT green and will not be for a long time, because:
-50,000 people use mainly fossil fuels to travel long distances to get there and back
-lots of generators burn fossil fuels for a week to power RVs, soundsystems, etc, with minimal emissions controls
-burning of the man and its platform, art installations, and lots of random items from individuals, creates toxic airborne pollutants
-there is a large consumption of resources for use in art installations, shelters, camps, etc and in all likelihood these things may only be used once, then sit in some dusty san francisco basement for eternity
-it seems like every other car on its way to bman stops at wal-mart to pick up a shopping cart full of plastic crap like squirt guns, disposable forks, balloons, etc etc
i’ve been to the event three times and i’m not knocking it, but there IS a lot of greenwashing going on this year considering what actually happens at the event.

also, from the burningman LLC environmental statement:
“Black Rock City LLC is committed to utilizing environmentally favorable solutions as they become financially sound alternatives to the use of fossil fuels and non-renewable materials.”
i think we can agree that EVERYONE wants to use green solutions AS THEY BECOME FINANCIALLY SOUND, right? so basically this event will not become green until society as a whole becomes green, and starts making things like solar technologies viable for people of all income levels.

]]> By: Burning Man Environmental Blog » Blog Archive » Burn your way to a better planet http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/05/04/burning-man-2007-the-green-man/comment-page-1/#comment-22492 Burning Man Environmental Blog » Blog Archive » Burn your way to a better planet Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:20:28 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=2425#comment-22492 [...] meanwhile, on this neat little site called Ecorazzi, there’s another snippet about the Green Man theme–give it a [...] [...] meanwhile, on this neat little site called Ecorazzi, there’s another snippet about the Green Man theme–give it a [...]

]]> By: shashonah http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/05/04/burning-man-2007-the-green-man/comment-page-1/#comment-18727 shashonah Wed, 23 May 2007 00:28:39 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=2425#comment-18727 Never been there , I would like to go some day, my sister met the lov of her life out there about ten years ago. good theme, and I hope you all have a blast. God Bless Never been there , I would like to go some day, my sister met the lov of her life out there about ten years ago. good theme, and I hope you all have a blast. God Bless

]]> By: Burning Man goes green! | GAS ZAPPERS an online game about Climate Change http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/05/04/burning-man-2007-the-green-man/comment-page-1/#comment-17877 Burning Man goes green! | GAS ZAPPERS an online game about Climate Change Wed, 16 May 2007 20:02:46 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=2425#comment-17877 [...] has a great article explaining the projects and Eco Razzi has a detailed overviews of this year [...] [...] has a great article explaining the projects and Eco Razzi has a detailed overviews of this year [...]

]]> By: club x http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/05/04/burning-man-2007-the-green-man/comment-page-1/#comment-17052 club x Fri, 11 May 2007 17:06:12 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=2425#comment-17052 Burning man is unfortunately a plaything of the hippie vanguard . When i say vanguard i mean rich people who like to fetishize the traditions of the world for entertainment. You all can get what you want done but your agenda will limit you all from ultimately doing anything ,besides patting yourself on the back. good work. A wicker man of sacrifice not a social club for assholes with a concept . That being said i still think people should gather and try to get it right or left or whatever direction they want to be Burning man is unfortunately a plaything of the hippie vanguard . When i say vanguard i mean rich people who like to fetishize the traditions of the world for entertainment. You all can get what you want done but your agenda will limit you all from ultimately doing anything ,besides patting yourself on the back. good work.
A wicker man of sacrifice not a social club for assholes with a concept . That being said i still think people should gather and try to get it right or left or whatever direction they want to be

]]> By: Paul Schreer http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/05/04/burning-man-2007-the-green-man/comment-page-1/#comment-16742 Paul Schreer Wed, 09 May 2007 18:16:55 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=2425#comment-16742 A few things should be noted in regards to the above article. It is a great piece by the way, thank you Ecorazzi. I think it is important to point out that the Coolingman website was started by Burning Man participants for Burning Man Participants and beyond. Black Rock City, LLC, the BM Organization, did not set up this site. They have been around since at least 2005, when I was introduced to them. We thought they were the perfect group to work with when we decided to look at our footprint last year and then all the many footprints that make up the whole, this year. Burners without Borders grew organically on the winds of Hurricane Katrina in late 2005 also. A beautiful thing happened after the 2005 event and it is too important to not keep going forward with. The Burning Man Organization, the Burning Man Regionals and The many in the BM Community have chosen to support BWB in many ways and that is that. Year round BM. The MOOP Map was an idea that hatched long before the theme was announced. It was in motion and would have been a part of the Playa Restoration Team no matter what the theme for 2007 turned out to be. I have said it on a couple of occasions, the theme this year could have been The Purple Man and been all about Barney for all I care, I would still be doing the work I am doing to Green the Burn. The EnviroBlog is the only one out of the 4 things highlighted in the article that was started by the BM Organization, this year, for the purpose of supporting not only the Green Man theme this year but in our efforts to go forward beyond 2007. We aren't turning back, btw. I really like the article, I just want to help others that read it learn a little more of the story. It's a great story, a beautiful tale, when you start putting all the pieces together, it's powerful stuff. Someone should make a documentary about Greening the Burn. Did I just say that out loud? Anyway It's the farthest thing from green washing, what we're doing that is. We are real, we are everywhere and we're going to do it our way. We are a great Community. When we decide to do something, we get-er-done. Cheers, Blue A few things should be noted in regards to the above article. It is a great piece by the way, thank you Ecorazzi.

I think it is important to point out that the Coolingman website was started by Burning Man participants for Burning Man Participants and beyond. Black Rock City, LLC, the BM Organization, did not set up this site. They have been around since at least 2005, when I was introduced to them. We thought they were the perfect group to work with when we decided to look at our footprint last year and then all the many footprints that make up the whole, this year.

Burners without Borders grew organically on the winds of Hurricane Katrina in late 2005 also. A beautiful thing happened after the 2005 event and it is too important to not keep going forward with. The Burning Man Organization, the Burning Man Regionals and The many in the BM Community have chosen to support BWB in many ways and that is that. Year round BM.

The MOOP Map was an idea that hatched long before the theme was announced. It was in motion and would have been a part of the Playa Restoration Team no matter what the theme for 2007 turned out to be. I have said it on a couple of occasions, the theme this year could have been The Purple Man and been all about Barney for all I care, I would still be doing the work I am doing to Green the Burn.

The EnviroBlog is the only one out of the 4 things highlighted in the article that was started by the BM Organization, this year, for the purpose of supporting not only the Green Man theme this year but in our efforts to go forward beyond 2007. We aren’t turning back, btw.

I really like the article, I just want to help others that read it learn a little more of the story. It’s a great story, a beautiful tale, when you start putting all the pieces together, it’s powerful stuff. Someone should make a documentary about Greening the Burn. Did I just say that out loud? Anyway It’s the farthest thing from green washing, what we’re doing that is. We are real, we are everywhere and we’re going to do it our way. We are a great Community. When we decide to do something, we get-er-done.

Cheers,
Blue

]]> By: Tom http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/05/04/burning-man-2007-the-green-man/comment-page-1/#comment-16416 Tom Mon, 07 May 2007 19:40:01 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=2425#comment-16416 Hey, you might be interested in checking out this story in today's CNET.COM about the Green Man theme: http://news.com.com/Burning+Man+takes+on+green+tech/2100-11392_3-6181680.html?tag=nefd.lede Hey, you might be interested in checking out this story in today’s CNET.COM about the Green Man theme:
http://news.com.com/Burning+Man+takes+on+green+tech/2100-11392_3-6181680.html?tag=nefd.lede

]]> By: Green Year » Green Man in the news http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/05/04/burning-man-2007-the-green-man/comment-page-1/#comment-16415 Green Year » Green Man in the news Mon, 07 May 2007 19:39:19 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=2425#comment-16415 [...] one from Ecorazzi,   and a really great story from Daniel Terdiman on CNET, seen via our little blog. Entry [...] [...] one from Ecorazzi,   and a really great story from Daniel Terdiman on CNET, seen via our little blog. Entry [...]

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