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	<title>Comments on: Weather Channel Founder Wants To Sue Al Gore For Global Warming Fraud</title>
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		<title>By: NBC Launches Third-Annual &#8216;Green Week&#8217; Programming This Sunday! &#171; ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip</title>
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		<dc:creator>NBC Launches Third-Annual &#8216;Green Week&#8217; Programming This Sunday! &#171; ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] book &#8220;100 Heartbeats&#8221;, The Weather Channel will air segments on climate change (giving John Coleman additional heart attacks in the process), Bravo will re-air environmentally themed episodes of shows like Top Chef, and even Martha Stewart [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] book &#8220;100 Heartbeats&#8221;, The Weather Channel will air segments on climate change (giving John Coleman additional heart attacks in the process), Bravo will re-air environmentally themed episodes of shows like Top Chef, and even Martha Stewart [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What Ever Happened to the Lawsuit Brought by Weather Channel Founder Against Al Gore? - Zidee.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Ever Happened to the Lawsuit Brought by Weather Channel Founder Against Al Gore? - Zidee.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the &#8220;greatest scam in American history&#8221;? If not, Coleman turned a few heads last year with a barrage of op-eds, conference engagements and television appearances saying that 30,000 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the &#8220;greatest scam in American history&#8221;? If not, Coleman turned a few heads last year with a barrage of op-eds, conference engagements and television appearances saying that 30,000 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What Ever Happened to the Lawsuit Brought by Weather Channel Founder Against Al Gore? : Red, Green, and Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Ever Happened to the Lawsuit Brought by Weather Channel Founder Against Al Gore? : Red, Green, and Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the &#8220;greatest scam in American history&#8221;? If not, Coleman turned a few heads last year with a barrage of op-eds, conference engagements and television appearances saying that 30,000 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: whatever</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gore leaves a lot to be desired and this site is a joke.  here&#039;s something you&#039;ll hate. i just bought a new suburban and love it.  do i need it? no, but it does come in handy sometimes.  how&#039;s my gas mileage?  terrible.  why would i buy such a big suv?  &#039;cause I wanted it and i can afford it after years of struggling to get where i&#039;m at.  i have a tv in every bedroom too and sometimes they&#039;re all on at the same time.  i like to leave the lights on and never use flourescent bulbs.  i keep the house at 68 in the summer and 74 in the winter. i&#039;ll continue living like this regardless. green technology is great and i&#039;d love to see it, but don&#039;t ask me to change my habits because i never will</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gore leaves a lot to be desired and this site is a joke.  here&#8217;s something you&#8217;ll hate. i just bought a new suburban and love it.  do i need it? no, but it does come in handy sometimes.  how&#8217;s my gas mileage?  terrible.  why would i buy such a big suv?  &#8217;cause I wanted it and i can afford it after years of struggling to get where i&#8217;m at.  i have a tv in every bedroom too and sometimes they&#8217;re all on at the same time.  i like to leave the lights on and never use flourescent bulbs.  i keep the house at 68 in the summer and 74 in the winter. i&#8217;ll continue living like this regardless. green technology is great and i&#8217;d love to see it, but don&#8217;t ask me to change my habits because i never will</p>
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		<title>By: d phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>d phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i say let the politicians argue about the reality of the issue, and let us continue to move foreward our efforts to cut out the oil companies by reducing the demand by creating our cheaper, eco friendly vehicles. watch government spending and prevent the best way we can their spending more money on themselves than the country they are supposed to represent.  quit getting caught in the back and forth, its just a distraction. to keep you talking while they manipulate things behind the curtain, and im sorry friends, but is our curtain big enough to do the same in return?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i say let the politicians argue about the reality of the issue, and let us continue to move foreward our efforts to cut out the oil companies by reducing the demand by creating our cheaper, eco friendly vehicles. watch government spending and prevent the best way we can their spending more money on themselves than the country they are supposed to represent.  quit getting caught in the back and forth, its just a distraction. to keep you talking while they manipulate things behind the curtain, and im sorry friends, but is our curtain big enough to do the same in return?</p>
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		<title>By: d phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>d phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, what about this?  the semi goes by, the smoke gets too close to you and you cough.  you stand on the cliffs near lake erie and you see the beautiful GREEN water down below. two of the countless examples of the destruction of the environment. and you people say that there is no such thing as global warming.  who cares if its real or fake.  look at what is being done on its behalf.  both sides.  i will allow you all to argue the negative of this, but are you really implying that its all bad?  what, we dont need a more efficient fuel source? wait, we dont need to clean our water supply?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, what about this?  the semi goes by, the smoke gets too close to you and you cough.  you stand on the cliffs near lake erie and you see the beautiful GREEN water down below. two of the countless examples of the destruction of the environment. and you people say that there is no such thing as global warming.  who cares if its real or fake.  look at what is being done on its behalf.  both sides.  i will allow you all to argue the negative of this, but are you really implying that its all bad?  what, we dont need a more efficient fuel source? wait, we dont need to clean our water supply?</p>
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		<title>By: Libertarian 12</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libertarian 12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Moreover, most everybody excepts the “precautionary principle” as applied in the medical profession. Would’t it be wise to adopt the same principle when environmental health is at stake?&quot;

Very true. Every American could benefit from setting aside a bit of arrogance and conserving a bit. I just ditched my sedan for a compact with a 5 speed and almost doubled my highway miles/gallon. I stopped buying bottled water and all the other simple crap that anyone can do to help with cleaner air and oceans without decimating their way of life. 
The problem I have with the elitists is that they are getting rich by pushing lies, inaccuracies and fear. They promised us that Florida would be under water after the worst hurricane seasons ever in 2006 and 2007! Well???? As far as I know, they were some of the mildest. The truth is they just don&#039;t know and they are not just saying &quot;live a little more sustainably&quot;, they are talking about destroying our economy while doing nothing about China, India and the middle east. What good is that going to do? Tank the dollar and throw us into a worldwide recession where large areas of the world starve? 
You only hear about the Arctic ice receding and not about the ice in the Antarctic increasing. Could it be that like Mars, our northern hemisphere is tipping closer to the sun? Admittedly, I am not a Climatologist, Astronomer or even a Meteorologist but I can see that when my doctor is telling me that cutting whiskey out of my life will help me live longer and healthier; then he drains a full glass of Jack Daniels and pours himself another, maybe this guy has another agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Moreover, most everybody excepts the “precautionary principle” as applied in the medical profession. Would’t it be wise to adopt the same principle when environmental health is at stake?&#8221;</p>
<p>Very true. Every American could benefit from setting aside a bit of arrogance and conserving a bit. I just ditched my sedan for a compact with a 5 speed and almost doubled my highway miles/gallon. I stopped buying bottled water and all the other simple crap that anyone can do to help with cleaner air and oceans without decimating their way of life.<br />
The problem I have with the elitists is that they are getting rich by pushing lies, inaccuracies and fear. They promised us that Florida would be under water after the worst hurricane seasons ever in 2006 and 2007! Well???? As far as I know, they were some of the mildest. The truth is they just don&#8217;t know and they are not just saying &#8220;live a little more sustainably&#8221;, they are talking about destroying our economy while doing nothing about China, India and the middle east. What good is that going to do? Tank the dollar and throw us into a worldwide recession where large areas of the world starve?<br />
You only hear about the Arctic ice receding and not about the ice in the Antarctic increasing. Could it be that like Mars, our northern hemisphere is tipping closer to the sun? Admittedly, I am not a Climatologist, Astronomer or even a Meteorologist but I can see that when my doctor is telling me that cutting whiskey out of my life will help me live longer and healthier; then he drains a full glass of Jack Daniels and pours himself another, maybe this guy has another agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some really smart people don&#039;t believe in global warming.  Other really smart people do. Mr. Coleman isn&#039;t in either camp. 

Mr. Coleman equates global warming with climate change (see page 2 &quot;Global Warming i.e. Climate Change&quot;) and attempts to debunk both with his position paper.  They aren&#039;t the same.  Global warming is one theory (yes, I believe the verdict is still out, but that drastic change is a real possibility) of the outcome of Climate Change.  Mr. Coleman ignorantly states that they are the same.

Even his source for primary authority, which he points to ad naseum in his &quot;briefs&quot;, completely disagrees with him on this point.  In fact, www.icecap.us expressly states: &quot;We worry the sole focus on greenhouse gases and the unwise reliance on imperfect climate models while ignoring real data may leave civilization unprepared for a sudden climate shift that history tells us will occur again, very possibly soon. &quot;

I love how Mr. Coleman state&#039;s that he has &quot;studied&quot; the issue.  He&#039;s a weatherman, not a climatologist.  Even if he does have advanced training in meteorology (I can&#039;t find any info about his educational background, but I&#039;m sure he&#039;d tout it, if it helped him), to suggest, as he does expressly, that meteorology is the study of climate change (on page 2 of his position paper) demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding (or blatant misrepresentation) of the disciplines.  

By definition, Meteorology is the study of weather process and forecasting over the short term.  Climatology is the study of climate over the long-term.  His piece is intellectually dishonest and it discredits his whole position.

Sure, meteorologist have something to say about the issues.  They can be smart people who can contribute to the process. Yet, Mr. Coleman denigrates Meteorologists with PhDs (page 2) as likely single-minded.  Apparently, only meteorologists who are weather forecasters and agree with Mr. Coleman&#039;s views are truly capable of telling us what&#039;s what regarding long-term climate change.

Another glaring example of his intellectual dishonesty is the statement &quot;CO2 is not a pollutant&quot; on page 7 and 9.  Mr. Coleman intimates that it is not a pollutant simply because CO2 occurs naturally in the environment.  Mr. Coleman argues that CO2 is also not a pollutant b/c plants need it to grow, and plants do better when they have more.  He undermines his credibility by making such simplistic and ridiculous statements such as this. 

The American Heritage Science Dictionary defines &quot;pollutant&quot; as &quot;A substance or condition that contaminates air, water, or soil. Pollutants can be artificial substances, such as pesticides and PCBs, or naturally occurring substances, such as oil or carbon dioxide, that occur in harmful concentrations in a given environment...&quot;.  In my environmental studies education, I learned the definition a little more bluntly: shit can be good and it can be bad. It just depends on what you do with it, how you do what you do with it, and when you do it.

Understanding these issues is not the sole domain of scientists.  Yet, to be arrogant, if not dishonest, about your authority and understanding of the issues is to undermine the credibility of your position.  And you open yourself up to being ignored and discredited as Mr. Coleman surely should be.

I&#039;ll listen to opposing views, but don&#039;t insult my intelligence by parading out a T.V. Weatherman who has the chutzpah to suggest he is among the intellectual elite, by simply equating a career in meteorology with the discipline of climatology; who thinks that nothing that occurs naturally can be a pollutant; and who believes that climate change and global warming are equivalent and neither are real (despite his own primary source authority expressely disagreeing with him).

Moreover, most everybody excepts the &quot;precautionary principle&quot; as applied in the medical profession.  Would&#039;t it be wise to adopt the same principle when environmental health is at stake?  I truly hope Mr. Coleman can flash those pearly whites and say &quot;I told you so.&quot;  The stakes are too high for him to be wrong on the ultimate issue and for us to not have acted to address the threat.   

The tragic truth about all of this, is we won&#039;t know who was &quot;right&quot; and who was &quot;wrong&quot; until it is likely to late to avoid much of the impacts.  I suggest we proceed to understand as much as we can and act in accordance with the precautionary principle.  We can start by first making sure we put Mr. Coleman&#039;s 40 pages of &quot;briefs&quot; in the proper place, the recycling bin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really smart people don&#8217;t believe in global warming.  Other really smart people do. Mr. Coleman isn&#8217;t in either camp. </p>
<p>Mr. Coleman equates global warming with climate change (see page 2 &#8220;Global Warming i.e. Climate Change&#8221;) and attempts to debunk both with his position paper.  They aren&#8217;t the same.  Global warming is one theory (yes, I believe the verdict is still out, but that drastic change is a real possibility) of the outcome of Climate Change.  Mr. Coleman ignorantly states that they are the same.</p>
<p>Even his source for primary authority, which he points to ad naseum in his &#8220;briefs&#8221;, completely disagrees with him on this point.  In fact, <a href="http://www.icecap.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.icecap.us</a> expressly states: &#8220;We worry the sole focus on greenhouse gases and the unwise reliance on imperfect climate models while ignoring real data may leave civilization unprepared for a sudden climate shift that history tells us will occur again, very possibly soon. &#8221;</p>
<p>I love how Mr. Coleman state&#8217;s that he has &#8220;studied&#8221; the issue.  He&#8217;s a weatherman, not a climatologist.  Even if he does have advanced training in meteorology (I can&#8217;t find any info about his educational background, but I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;d tout it, if it helped him), to suggest, as he does expressly, that meteorology is the study of climate change (on page 2 of his position paper) demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding (or blatant misrepresentation) of the disciplines.  </p>
<p>By definition, Meteorology is the study of weather process and forecasting over the short term.  Climatology is the study of climate over the long-term.  His piece is intellectually dishonest and it discredits his whole position.</p>
<p>Sure, meteorologist have something to say about the issues.  They can be smart people who can contribute to the process. Yet, Mr. Coleman denigrates Meteorologists with PhDs (page 2) as likely single-minded.  Apparently, only meteorologists who are weather forecasters and agree with Mr. Coleman&#8217;s views are truly capable of telling us what&#8217;s what regarding long-term climate change.</p>
<p>Another glaring example of his intellectual dishonesty is the statement &#8220;CO2 is not a pollutant&#8221; on page 7 and 9.  Mr. Coleman intimates that it is not a pollutant simply because CO2 occurs naturally in the environment.  Mr. Coleman argues that CO2 is also not a pollutant b/c plants need it to grow, and plants do better when they have more.  He undermines his credibility by making such simplistic and ridiculous statements such as this. </p>
<p>The American Heritage Science Dictionary defines &#8220;pollutant&#8221; as &#8220;A substance or condition that contaminates air, water, or soil. Pollutants can be artificial substances, such as pesticides and PCBs, or naturally occurring substances, such as oil or carbon dioxide, that occur in harmful concentrations in a given environment&#8230;&#8221;.  In my environmental studies education, I learned the definition a little more bluntly: shit can be good and it can be bad. It just depends on what you do with it, how you do what you do with it, and when you do it.</p>
<p>Understanding these issues is not the sole domain of scientists.  Yet, to be arrogant, if not dishonest, about your authority and understanding of the issues is to undermine the credibility of your position.  And you open yourself up to being ignored and discredited as Mr. Coleman surely should be.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll listen to opposing views, but don&#8217;t insult my intelligence by parading out a T.V. Weatherman who has the chutzpah to suggest he is among the intellectual elite, by simply equating a career in meteorology with the discipline of climatology; who thinks that nothing that occurs naturally can be a pollutant; and who believes that climate change and global warming are equivalent and neither are real (despite his own primary source authority expressely disagreeing with him).</p>
<p>Moreover, most everybody excepts the &#8220;precautionary principle&#8221; as applied in the medical profession.  Would&#8217;t it be wise to adopt the same principle when environmental health is at stake?  I truly hope Mr. Coleman can flash those pearly whites and say &#8220;I told you so.&#8221;  The stakes are too high for him to be wrong on the ultimate issue and for us to not have acted to address the threat.   </p>
<p>The tragic truth about all of this, is we won&#8217;t know who was &#8220;right&#8221; and who was &#8220;wrong&#8221; until it is likely to late to avoid much of the impacts.  I suggest we proceed to understand as much as we can and act in accordance with the precautionary principle.  We can start by first making sure we put Mr. Coleman&#8217;s 40 pages of &#8220;briefs&#8221; in the proper place, the recycling bin.</p>
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		<title>By: Libertarian 12</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libertarian 12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;americans must be really smart to know better than the rest of the world who accept it as fact and are wasting their time trying to save the planet.&quot;

Fact - the world always has and always will warm and cool

Fact - All of Europe once accepted that the earth was flat; that didn&#039;t make it so.

Fact - I love recycling. I was just finishing separating my junk mail, newspapers, glass and plastic not ten minutes ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;americans must be really smart to know better than the rest of the world who accept it as fact and are wasting their time trying to save the planet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fact &#8211; the world always has and always will warm and cool</p>
<p>Fact &#8211; All of Europe once accepted that the earth was flat; that didn&#8217;t make it so.</p>
<p>Fact &#8211; I love recycling. I was just finishing separating my junk mail, newspapers, glass and plastic not ten minutes ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiral</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow i didn&#039;t actually believe that a lot of americans think global warming doesn&#039;t exist until i saw all these comments.
americans must be really smart to know better than the rest of the world who accept it as fact and are wasting their time trying to save the planet.
i&#039;ve been brainwashed into recycling and everything. now we need to figure what the fraudsters do with all that seperated glass. oh i&#039;ve figured it out! it&#039;s a big terrorist plot they&#039;re turning it in to WMDs. quick get a move on and bomb them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow i didn&#8217;t actually believe that a lot of americans think global warming doesn&#8217;t exist until i saw all these comments.<br />
americans must be really smart to know better than the rest of the world who accept it as fact and are wasting their time trying to save the planet.<br />
i&#8217;ve been brainwashed into recycling and everything. now we need to figure what the fraudsters do with all that seperated glass. oh i&#8217;ve figured it out! it&#8217;s a big terrorist plot they&#8217;re turning it in to WMDs. quick get a move on and bomb them&#8230;</p>
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