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	<title>Comments on: Ben Stein&#8217;s New Anti-Evolution Film Should Be Expelled</title>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/04/18/ben-steins-new-anti-evolution-film-should-be-expelled/comment-page-1/#comment-206763</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes fbr, thank you for putting my crazy ramblings into one concise and coherent sentence.

I&#039;m going to mumble in the corner by myself now... but before I do I must say, I can&#039;t believe how many ecorazzi readers don&#039;t understand science, or have convinced themselves that the evil biologists have something to hide or prove against religion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes fbr, thank you for putting my crazy ramblings into one concise and coherent sentence.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to mumble in the corner by myself now&#8230; but before I do I must say, I can&#8217;t believe how many ecorazzi readers don&#8217;t understand science, or have convinced themselves that the evil biologists have something to hide or prove against religion!</p>
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		<title>By: fbr</title>
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		<dc:creator>fbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike evolution, ID/creationism is not a scientific theory simply because it is not falsifiable. Therefore it cannot be studied with the scientific method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike evolution, ID/creationism is not a scientific theory simply because it is not falsifiable. Therefore it cannot be studied with the scientific method.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/04/18/ben-steins-new-anti-evolution-film-should-be-expelled/comment-page-1/#comment-206574</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus, the design-centered paradigm is selfish and disgusting. Humans are simply not that important.

Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, the design-centered paradigm is selfish and disgusting. Humans are simply not that important.</p>
<p>Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/04/18/ben-steins-new-anti-evolution-film-should-be-expelled/comment-page-1/#comment-206570</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One reason the debate is &quot;silenced?&quot;

The Theory of Evolution lends itself to criticism, to poking and prodding, to ensuring that it&#039;s a &quot;working&quot; theory - testing itself every minute. That&#039;s the beauty of science.

&quot;Faith,&quot; on the other hand, is not asking to be proven, because it can&#039;t be. That&#039;s the whole point of the word - to believe without proof. That&#039;s not very academic.

Don&#039;t tell me Intelligent Design has nothing to do with Faith; eg, things we could never find or test proof against.

Hence the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

It&#039;s simply not academic. It&#039;s the ol&#039; &quot;observable evidence&quot; prerequisite. Gets ya every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One reason the debate is &#8220;silenced?&#8221;</p>
<p>The Theory of Evolution lends itself to criticism, to poking and prodding, to ensuring that it&#8217;s a &#8220;working&#8221; theory &#8211; testing itself every minute. That&#8217;s the beauty of science.</p>
<p>&#8220;Faith,&#8221; on the other hand, is not asking to be proven, because it can&#8217;t be. That&#8217;s the whole point of the word &#8211; to believe without proof. That&#8217;s not very academic.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t tell me Intelligent Design has nothing to do with Faith; eg, things we could never find or test proof against.</p>
<p>Hence the Flying Spaghetti Monster.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply not academic. It&#8217;s the ol&#8217; &#8220;observable evidence&#8221; prerequisite. Gets ya every time.</p>
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		<title>By: gregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont care if you believe in evolution but i dont. the fact its taught in public school makes me upset. they teach the THEORY of evolution like its fact. how would you pro-evolutionists like it if you were forced to learn creation and how it really happened. not fun huh? im not asking people to change opinions, i just want evolution out of school or an option not to take it or to take a creationism class. it is prejudice. science isnt always right, especially when its an unproven theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont care if you believe in evolution but i dont. the fact its taught in public school makes me upset. they teach the THEORY of evolution like its fact. how would you pro-evolutionists like it if you were forced to learn creation and how it really happened. not fun huh? im not asking people to change opinions, i just want evolution out of school or an option not to take it or to take a creationism class. it is prejudice. science isnt always right, especially when its an unproven theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Niven</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/04/18/ben-steins-new-anti-evolution-film-should-be-expelled/comment-page-1/#comment-87444</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Niven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Greater still, why the censorship? Is this really objectivity, or is the idea that one’s world view keeps one from allowing room for other opinions valid, particularly because of the obvious implications?&quot;

There is currently an ominous movement within science which goes beyond the censorship we see from Darwinists. Elements within the scientific community are increasingly attempting to position science as the only legitimate source of knowledge, in the minds of the general public. Any question which does not submit to the scientific method is deemed meaningless. Science can be the only legitimate arbiter. The ultimate questions such as “is there a God?” have been relegated to the “myths and legends” section where they are guarded heavily lest they should escape and once again rise to challenge the authority of science . Ridicule is used effectively to slap anyone back into line who presents an alternative world-view. 

To some extent, this monopolising stems from an arrogance within science, arising from theoretical and technical “advances” and from speculation concerning even greater future possibilities. It is also due to the self serving and self propagating nature of science. People whose status depends on their scientific work are always inclined to exaggerate the importance and scope of science, as they exaggerate the importance and potential applications of their own research. 

In order to achieve this level of power, scientists need to convince us that their knowledge rests on a firm and certain foundation. The limits of science or the unprovable metaphysical assumptions are hardly discussed. Either  these limitations deliberately concealed or practising scientists are genuinely ignorant about foundational issues related to their discipline. Whatever the case, the false picture of science as the repository of certain truth has been bought by a large percentage of the general public. They must be getting their ideas from somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Greater still, why the censorship? Is this really objectivity, or is the idea that one’s world view keeps one from allowing room for other opinions valid, particularly because of the obvious implications?&#8221;</p>
<p>There is currently an ominous movement within science which goes beyond the censorship we see from Darwinists. Elements within the scientific community are increasingly attempting to position science as the only legitimate source of knowledge, in the minds of the general public. Any question which does not submit to the scientific method is deemed meaningless. Science can be the only legitimate arbiter. The ultimate questions such as “is there a God?” have been relegated to the “myths and legends” section where they are guarded heavily lest they should escape and once again rise to challenge the authority of science . Ridicule is used effectively to slap anyone back into line who presents an alternative world-view. </p>
<p>To some extent, this monopolising stems from an arrogance within science, arising from theoretical and technical “advances” and from speculation concerning even greater future possibilities. It is also due to the self serving and self propagating nature of science. People whose status depends on their scientific work are always inclined to exaggerate the importance and scope of science, as they exaggerate the importance and potential applications of their own research. </p>
<p>In order to achieve this level of power, scientists need to convince us that their knowledge rests on a firm and certain foundation. The limits of science or the unprovable metaphysical assumptions are hardly discussed. Either  these limitations deliberately concealed or practising scientists are genuinely ignorant about foundational issues related to their discipline. Whatever the case, the false picture of science as the repository of certain truth has been bought by a large percentage of the general public. They must be getting their ideas from somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: stasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>stasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main point of the film is being missed by many.  Its not the debate, but the categorical silencing of the current minority side.

At the same time, it is admitted by the majority opinion that other options are possible and that not everything to be known about the issue is known at this time.  At the same time they claim their idea is &#039;fact&#039;.

Big contradiction there.  

Greater still, why the censorship?  Is this really objectivity, or is the idea that one&#039;s world view keeps one from allowing room for other opinions valid, particularly because of the obviouis implications?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main point of the film is being missed by many.  Its not the debate, but the categorical silencing of the current minority side.</p>
<p>At the same time, it is admitted by the majority opinion that other options are possible and that not everything to be known about the issue is known at this time.  At the same time they claim their idea is &#8216;fact&#8217;.</p>
<p>Big contradiction there.  </p>
<p>Greater still, why the censorship?  Is this really objectivity, or is the idea that one&#8217;s world view keeps one from allowing room for other opinions valid, particularly because of the obviouis implications?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Niven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Niven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We will all laugh at you in the future just as we do the people that thought the earth was the center of the solar system.&quot;

Your analogy is interesting but misses the point. It is the Darwinists still pushing a Victorian dogma with religious zeal whom history will judge to be a laughing stock. Darwin had justification for asking for time to answer his critics, being well aware of the serious problems which could be justifiably raised against his own theory. He devoted an entire chapter to parering over the cracks. 150 years on, there are no excuses. Dinosaurs, sorry I mean Darwinists out there - you can no longer believe the earth is flat. Start getting used to a design centred paradigm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We will all laugh at you in the future just as we do the people that thought the earth was the center of the solar system.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your analogy is interesting but misses the point. It is the Darwinists still pushing a Victorian dogma with religious zeal whom history will judge to be a laughing stock. Darwin had justification for asking for time to answer his critics, being well aware of the serious problems which could be justifiably raised against his own theory. He devoted an entire chapter to parering over the cracks. 150 years on, there are no excuses. Dinosaurs, sorry I mean Darwinists out there &#8211; you can no longer believe the earth is flat. Start getting used to a design centred paradigm.</p>
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		<title>By: Double Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evolution is the only thing coming close to making sense. Not proven, but closer than any &#039;religious&#039; text or ID claim by any stretch of intelligence. 
   We will all laugh at you in the future just as we do the people that thought the earth was the center of the solar system. Now go give church more of your hard earned money...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evolution is the only thing coming close to making sense. Not proven, but closer than any &#8216;religious&#8217; text or ID claim by any stretch of intelligence.<br />
   We will all laugh at you in the future just as we do the people that thought the earth was the center of the solar system. Now go give church more of your hard earned money&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d still like to see more facts supporting evolution. For example, why do all creatures have different number of chromosomes? Chimps have a lot more than we do, are we retarded chimps? What about the 12 step process in blood clotting? I can kind of understand how the eye could evolve, but not how blood clots. Nor do I see why we are not asexual creatures since trying to find another similar creature of the opposing gender would more than likely be a road block to natural selection. It would make it hard to replicate our own specie if we had to find a mate. 

I think my husband was right, we should all just evolve into Sporlocks. (It&#039;s a WoW thing.)

Also, it really bothered me when I read an article on physicists trying to describe the size of nothing. I thought nothing was the absence of something. On  top of that, I thought that something couldn&#039;t come from noting.

Evolution never made sense to me, especially now that I am pre-med.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d still like to see more facts supporting evolution. For example, why do all creatures have different number of chromosomes? Chimps have a lot more than we do, are we retarded chimps? What about the 12 step process in blood clotting? I can kind of understand how the eye could evolve, but not how blood clots. Nor do I see why we are not asexual creatures since trying to find another similar creature of the opposing gender would more than likely be a road block to natural selection. It would make it hard to replicate our own specie if we had to find a mate. </p>
<p>I think my husband was right, we should all just evolve into Sporlocks. (It&#8217;s a WoW thing.)</p>
<p>Also, it really bothered me when I read an article on physicists trying to describe the size of nothing. I thought nothing was the absence of something. On  top of that, I thought that something couldn&#8217;t come from noting.</p>
<p>Evolution never made sense to me, especially now that I am pre-med.</p>
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