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		<title>By: Oliver Chapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this song kils me men any time i hear this song i rememba ma guy</description>
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		<title>By: Mongrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mongrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear David Dent

Your argument sounds like an attempt to get more people to buy fur. People can use every argument in the book about how fur is eco-friendly and a renewable source, but you won&#039;t change my mind. Torturing animals for their fur in the name of vanity is simply wrong. And fur is not green!

It takes up to 60 minks to produce one coat. Each mink produces 44 pounds of feces per year that simply gets dumped into our waterways. If not used for pet food, the animal carcasses get discarded, creating more waste. Farming animals is the leading cause of climate change.
All fur must be treated or the pelt will rot just like unrefridgerated meat. Fur is treated with harsh chemicals that are harmful to humans and destroy the environment.
Trappers have wiped out many species of wild animals. For each target animal trapped, 3 non-target animals are trapped. Traps are non-discriminatory, they will trap endangered animals as well as domestic cats and dogs. When a trapper says they don&#039;t trap non-target animals, they simply mean that they don&#039;t report it.
To believe fur is green, you also have to believe that polluting our waters with feces and toxic chemicals as well as trapping animals to the point of extinction is green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear David Dent</p>
<p>Your argument sounds like an attempt to get more people to buy fur. People can use every argument in the book about how fur is eco-friendly and a renewable source, but you won&#8217;t change my mind. Torturing animals for their fur in the name of vanity is simply wrong. And fur is not green!</p>
<p>It takes up to 60 minks to produce one coat. Each mink produces 44 pounds of feces per year that simply gets dumped into our waterways. If not used for pet food, the animal carcasses get discarded, creating more waste. Farming animals is the leading cause of climate change.<br />
All fur must be treated or the pelt will rot just like unrefridgerated meat. Fur is treated with harsh chemicals that are harmful to humans and destroy the environment.<br />
Trappers have wiped out many species of wild animals. For each target animal trapped, 3 non-target animals are trapped. Traps are non-discriminatory, they will trap endangered animals as well as domestic cats and dogs. When a trapper says they don&#8217;t trap non-target animals, they simply mean that they don&#8217;t report it.<br />
To believe fur is green, you also have to believe that polluting our waters with feces and toxic chemicals as well as trapping animals to the point of extinction is green.</p>
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		<title>By: Aimée</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aimée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you to the above poster for your thoughtful response. So many of these posts strike me as immature and thoughtless. If you&#039;re really getting that worked about about someone on the internet judging or lecturing you, you may need to take a step back. 


As for the issue at hand... A lot of friends of mine who are eco-activists chastise me for my wearing real rather than faux fur, but what they fail to realize is that I&#039;m making the greener choice. All my furs are from secondhand shops--meaning that at least one other person wore them before I did. By buying used rather than new, I am not increasing the demand for new pelts, but simply &quot;recycling&quot; the older ones. Producing clothing of any sort uses up not only the materials but other resources for producing and transporting the item. Isn&#039;t it more responsible to wear an animal that died a half-century ago than to wear a petroleum-based fake that some sweatshop  belched out last week? Not to mention the fact that real is more durable and warmer--meaning it&#039;ll spend a lot more time on my body and a lot less time in a landfill. When and if it does finally end up in the garbage, it will biodegrade much more quickly than the synthetics the above posters seem to tout. 

If you want to talk about charity, consider this: every scrap of fur I own comes from a Goodwill charity shop. (Who says retail therapy can&#039;t help others? Shopping in the stores helps to fund their services to help others in the community.) Don&#039;t have a goodwill near you? Try wwww.shopgoodwill.com . Half goodwill, half ebay, all good times. 

Lest you should think I&#039;m trampling on animal rights, it&#039;s worth mentioning that I&#039;m a member of PETA. Yes, that PETA. While that alone doesn&#039;t make me a friend to animals, my many years of vegetarian living and my refusal to purchase new goods that have potential to harm animals certainly say something, in my opinion. 


As for Rihanna&#039;s collar, it looks rather fake to me. It&#039;s far too regular and solid to be multiple pelts, and too large to be one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to the above poster for your thoughtful response. So many of these posts strike me as immature and thoughtless. If you&#8217;re really getting that worked about about someone on the internet judging or lecturing you, you may need to take a step back. </p>
<p>As for the issue at hand&#8230; A lot of friends of mine who are eco-activists chastise me for my wearing real rather than faux fur, but what they fail to realize is that I&#8217;m making the greener choice. All my furs are from secondhand shops&#8211;meaning that at least one other person wore them before I did. By buying used rather than new, I am not increasing the demand for new pelts, but simply &#8220;recycling&#8221; the older ones. Producing clothing of any sort uses up not only the materials but other resources for producing and transporting the item. Isn&#8217;t it more responsible to wear an animal that died a half-century ago than to wear a petroleum-based fake that some sweatshop  belched out last week? Not to mention the fact that real is more durable and warmer&#8211;meaning it&#8217;ll spend a lot more time on my body and a lot less time in a landfill. When and if it does finally end up in the garbage, it will biodegrade much more quickly than the synthetics the above posters seem to tout. </p>
<p>If you want to talk about charity, consider this: every scrap of fur I own comes from a Goodwill charity shop. (Who says retail therapy can&#8217;t help others? Shopping in the stores helps to fund their services to help others in the community.) Don&#8217;t have a goodwill near you? Try wwww.shopgoodwill.com . Half goodwill, half ebay, all good times. </p>
<p>Lest you should think I&#8217;m trampling on animal rights, it&#8217;s worth mentioning that I&#8217;m a member of PETA. Yes, that PETA. While that alone doesn&#8217;t make me a friend to animals, my many years of vegetarian living and my refusal to purchase new goods that have potential to harm animals certainly say something, in my opinion. </p>
<p>As for Rihanna&#8217;s collar, it looks rather fake to me. It&#8217;s far too regular and solid to be multiple pelts, and too large to be one.</p>
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		<title>By: David Dent</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that those who are most anti can never tell if a fur is real or not. The truth is that is because they are ignorant about animals.
Actually, I am pretty sure that the fur is mouton: sheepskin. It could however be sheared beaver.

I have designed a small  fashion collection using infinitely renewable long lasting recyclable and bio degradable clothing.
My motivation for this is I have witnessed the massive eco damage inflicted on the planet by cheap mass produced clothing made from petro chemicals and cotto; and hat happens to the rual areas when the animal based econmies are gone: urbanisation, intensive arable, deforestation and exploitation of minerals and oil: devastating to animals.

My designs are tweed and fur because  don&#039;t just think I KNOW that these things offer the best method of Conservation of animal habitat: fur comes from candnavia siberia and canada predominatly, and as a result much of the boreal forest remains intact. With fur trade the option is deforstation and oil exploration. If you think of my native Wales and Scotland one can also see that sheep farming has meant very little development in these areas so red deer otter red kite red squirrel wild cats are all still there.

I therefore use furs I source myself so I know no cruelty is involved, and also tweed and qaliy leather. I buy fur from SAGA which have probably the best animal welfare of any domescated animal in the world, rabbit from the Czech republic (where the meat is consumed)and nutria from Poland and argentina (where the meat is consumed)and beaver from Canada (where the meat is consmed)and some fox from Siberia (where the meat is consumed).
Beacause we don&#039;t eat it don&#039;t assume the meat isn&#039;t eaten; it will end up in pet food at least.
SO therefore the is no difference between fur and leather or sheepksin.

Paula Lishman the canadian fashion deigner also uses fur. Her husband is Wiliam Lishman the Conservationist of &quot;Fly Away Home&quot; fame. 
Here is Paula Lishman&#039;s current camaign for the fur council of canada:

www.furcouncil.com/ecological.aspx

Until now in my life I have been well known as an animal artist. That is because I love animals; and  have also lobbied MPs on Conservation matters very hard.

I have turned to fashion to make a point: animals are an infinitely renewable resource. They produce quality clothng; and be reassured the reason they are expensive is because you pay for good welfare(to produce good fur means the animals require the best husbandry)  or good land management.
Sensible hunting and fur use has been with us since the dawn of humankind, and those native people who still rely on it
have the best relationship with nature. The fox and mink are the most hunted and used or fur mammal predators, and also the most common: that is no coincidence. It is the modern urban west and our relentless consumption of cheap nasty synthetics made from petro chemicals that have brought many animals to the brink of extinction and we have to return to keeping the land for the animals. Particularly the northern forests which still account for 80% of fur production.

While we need animals they are safe. If you care , that is the future.

At no time in human history has fur ben seen generally as unethcal, yet the mindset has come about through the relentless campign of a very hypocritcal lobby group. Well here is what they have been doing while tellng you fur is cruel:
www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial2.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that those who are most anti can never tell if a fur is real or not. The truth is that is because they are ignorant about animals.<br />
Actually, I am pretty sure that the fur is mouton: sheepskin. It could however be sheared beaver.</p>
<p>I have designed a small  fashion collection using infinitely renewable long lasting recyclable and bio degradable clothing.<br />
My motivation for this is I have witnessed the massive eco damage inflicted on the planet by cheap mass produced clothing made from petro chemicals and cotto; and hat happens to the rual areas when the animal based econmies are gone: urbanisation, intensive arable, deforestation and exploitation of minerals and oil: devastating to animals.</p>
<p>My designs are tweed and fur because  don&#8217;t just think I KNOW that these things offer the best method of Conservation of animal habitat: fur comes from candnavia siberia and canada predominatly, and as a result much of the boreal forest remains intact. With fur trade the option is deforstation and oil exploration. If you think of my native Wales and Scotland one can also see that sheep farming has meant very little development in these areas so red deer otter red kite red squirrel wild cats are all still there.</p>
<p>I therefore use furs I source myself so I know no cruelty is involved, and also tweed and qaliy leather. I buy fur from SAGA which have probably the best animal welfare of any domescated animal in the world, rabbit from the Czech republic (where the meat is consumed)and nutria from Poland and argentina (where the meat is consumed)and beaver from Canada (where the meat is consmed)and some fox from Siberia (where the meat is consumed).<br />
Beacause we don&#8217;t eat it don&#8217;t assume the meat isn&#8217;t eaten; it will end up in pet food at least.<br />
SO therefore the is no difference between fur and leather or sheepksin.</p>
<p>Paula Lishman the canadian fashion deigner also uses fur. Her husband is Wiliam Lishman the Conservationist of &#8220;Fly Away Home&#8221; fame.<br />
Here is Paula Lishman&#8217;s current camaign for the fur council of canada:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.furcouncil.com/ecological.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.furcouncil.com/ecological.aspx</a></p>
<p>Until now in my life I have been well known as an animal artist. That is because I love animals; and  have also lobbied MPs on Conservation matters very hard.</p>
<p>I have turned to fashion to make a point: animals are an infinitely renewable resource. They produce quality clothng; and be reassured the reason they are expensive is because you pay for good welfare(to produce good fur means the animals require the best husbandry)  or good land management.<br />
Sensible hunting and fur use has been with us since the dawn of humankind, and those native people who still rely on it<br />
have the best relationship with nature. The fox and mink are the most hunted and used or fur mammal predators, and also the most common: that is no coincidence. It is the modern urban west and our relentless consumption of cheap nasty synthetics made from petro chemicals that have brought many animals to the brink of extinction and we have to return to keeping the land for the animals. Particularly the northern forests which still account for 80% of fur production.</p>
<p>While we need animals they are safe. If you care , that is the future.</p>
<p>At no time in human history has fur ben seen generally as unethcal, yet the mindset has come about through the relentless campign of a very hypocritcal lobby group. Well here is what they have been doing while tellng you fur is cruel:<br />
<a href="http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial2.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial2.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey speaking of Shontelle...has anyone heard her &quot;t-shirt&quot; song? I first heard it on myspace.
www.myspace.com/shontelle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey speaking of Shontelle&#8230;has anyone heard her &#8220;t-shirt&#8221; song? I first heard it on myspace.<br />
<a href="http://www.myspace.com/shontelle" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/shontelle</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It must be a Bajan thing...because Rihanna and Shontelle have fashion Sense fo&#039; real!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be a Bajan thing&#8230;because Rihanna and Shontelle have fashion Sense fo&#8217; real!</p>
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		<title>By: tisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>tisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats wrong with it.. I think it looks fly.  Don&#039;t hate on rihanna.  I heard Rihanna&#039;s real good friends with new singer shontelle.  They are so beautiful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats wrong with it.. I think it looks fly.  Don&#8217;t hate on rihanna.  I heard Rihanna&#8217;s real good friends with new singer shontelle.  They are so beautiful</p>
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		<title>By: tash</title>
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		<dc:creator>tash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont see why there is so much conflict asfd and Cid Martin because i personally believe that we should share our wealth and not hoard it away because it wrecks the harmony but since we have already done that i think we should try to redeem ourselves and try too save the world together and not fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont see why there is so much conflict asfd and Cid Martin because i personally believe that we should share our wealth and not hoard it away because it wrecks the harmony but since we have already done that i think we should try to redeem ourselves and try too save the world together and not fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Cid Martins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cid Martins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>asdf: please, at least write my name correctl  :)

And no, I don&#039;t need to think things through, trust me! If everyone behaved like I do, there would be no starving children and no animals killed on this planet! No wars and no significant pollution! People would respect each other and all living creatures! Life on this planet would be a utopy! So please don&#039;t you judge me or lecture me!!

So, you think I am wrong and you are right just because I believe every living creature&#039;s life is important... Okay...

And what I mentioned was metaphorical. You obviously didn&#039;t get it! What I meant was that we can do a lot of good in several areas and that different people help in different causes! We can&#039;t all do the same thing at the same time, otherwise nothing would ever get done! It&#039;s like a car...to build one and making it work perfectly you need all the parts, even the insignificant ones. They all have a role in the overall functioning of the car! Do you get it now? 

I think what you are doing for those children is praiseworthy as it is Rihanna donating to charity. However there is something called coherency - and I am not picking on Rihanna -; if that fur is real, then she could have helped more children by not wasting money buying it, and donating it to charity, thus saving both animals and children! 

I would also like to say that the money you asdf donate means much more than the one Rihanna does! Why? Because giving or raising a few thousand dollars is nothing to her; on the other hand a few hundreds is probably a lot to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>asdf: please, at least write my name correctl  <img src='http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t need to think things through, trust me! If everyone behaved like I do, there would be no starving children and no animals killed on this planet! No wars and no significant pollution! People would respect each other and all living creatures! Life on this planet would be a utopy! So please don&#8217;t you judge me or lecture me!!</p>
<p>So, you think I am wrong and you are right just because I believe every living creature&#8217;s life is important&#8230; Okay&#8230;</p>
<p>And what I mentioned was metaphorical. You obviously didn&#8217;t get it! What I meant was that we can do a lot of good in several areas and that different people help in different causes! We can&#8217;t all do the same thing at the same time, otherwise nothing would ever get done! It&#8217;s like a car&#8230;to build one and making it work perfectly you need all the parts, even the insignificant ones. They all have a role in the overall functioning of the car! Do you get it now? </p>
<p>I think what you are doing for those children is praiseworthy as it is Rihanna donating to charity. However there is something called coherency &#8211; and I am not picking on Rihanna -; if that fur is real, then she could have helped more children by not wasting money buying it, and donating it to charity, thus saving both animals and children! </p>
<p>I would also like to say that the money you asdf donate means much more than the one Rihanna does! Why? Because giving or raising a few thousand dollars is nothing to her; on the other hand a few hundreds is probably a lot to you!</p>
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		<title>By: erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps i shouldn&#039;t have said &quot;gents&quot; as stephanie posted above too. i also meant the last part to read like this..

how about THIS for an epiphany - instead of saying we think animal’s lives are MORE important than humans (or vice versa) how about (gasp) saying they are EQUALLY as important!?!?!? I’m not sure what your religious views are but I believe God thinks an elephant he created in Africa is just as sacred as a man in Australia… As do I. How’s THAT for opening your mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps i shouldn&#8217;t have said &#8220;gents&#8221; as stephanie posted above too. i also meant the last part to read like this..</p>
<p>how about THIS for an epiphany &#8211; instead of saying we think animal’s lives are MORE important than humans (or vice versa) how about (gasp) saying they are EQUALLY as important!?!?!? I’m not sure what your religious views are but I believe God thinks an elephant he created in Africa is just as sacred as a man in Australia… As do I. How’s THAT for opening your mind?</p>
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