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Is this the new version of the abortion debate? You don’t agree with me so you must be a stupid, ignorant and mostly bad person?!?

God i hate celebrities.

All important medical issues are decided by angry mobs of ignorant laypersons who have their minds already made up. That’s always been the way science advances.

It’s not a matter of “what side do you believe is right”. It’s “what side IS actually right”. And that side is Amanda Peet’s.

McCarthy is an idiot.

Jenny, having a child with autism does not make you any kind of medical expert. I am sorry you child has autism, but the evidence is clear…. VACCINATIONS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

You are literally killing people by scaring them away from the greatest life saving medicine with have.

Why is it that the Stupid Burns brighter with blondes?

So the mob rules. Is that it?

At this point, I’ll trust my cats over McCarthy.

McCarthy is so frighteningly ignorant it beggers belief. She pontificates about the subject yet fails to grasp even the most elementary science. This vaccine stuff has been debunked time and time again, yet McCarthy continues to advocate policies that HARM children.

That she cites her ‘angry mob’ as though it were a good thing should tell you something.

Jenny, I’m sorry your child is autistic. I know you feel you need to lash out and blame something for your misfortune, but you’re just going to have to accept the fact that sometimes these things happen.

Please stop trying make the world safe for influenza and other micro-organisms.

Oh, and please stop the thinly veiled threats of violence. They’re not nice.

“We are not against vaccines..” could have fooled me, you speak of support for safe vaccines and yet every objections you have raised in the past and present based on health impact has been demolished by evidence and good science. When one unsupported claim is totally and utterly dismissed, you move on to a new one - maybe it’s time to spot a pattern here?

Seeing as our vaccines thus are proven safe, you should be for them by your own admission and yet you rail against them publicly at any chance you get.

What drives you people, it certainly isn’t reason and evidence?

I don’t really care what a bunch of celebrities think. I’ll look at the dozens of peer-reviewed medical studies that have shown no link between autism and vaccines, or between autism and heavy metals, or between autism and thalidomide. Then I’ll look at the one study, from over 10 years ago, that suggests maybe there might be a possible link between this one vaccine and a gastric infection that kinda seems to be associated with autistic kids… and the 8 out of 10 co-authors of the paper that disagreed with that conclusion.

I believe the SCIENCE! I like Amanda Peet for standing up for the science in a world where talk shows allow McCarthy to spew here ignorance and dangerous propaganda all over the screen, but I follow the SCIENCE.

There is no link, that’s NO LINK, between vaccines and autism. Autism is sad. It is a terrible thing to have to deal with as a parent. Researchers agree that increases in autism rates are due to better diagnosis and a broadening definition of what is classified as autism.

Vaccines prevent diseases. As more people refuse to vaccinate their children, the herd immunity that protects us will eventually reach a point that will allow outbreaks to occur. The W.H.O. estimates 242,000 deaths in 2006 from Measles. We don’t have this problem in the U.S. because of vaccines.

Anti-vaccination people are a danger to everyone.

That was me before I had autism in my life,

Be sure to let us know when you get a degree in epidemiology in your life, or perhaps a few well-designed studies.

“Oh, snap!”

What? How is that an “oh snap” moment?

@IW:
“I’ll also point out that lots of other things are on the rise besides vaccines and autism. For one, pirates.”

So we’re going to be seeing less global warming? Awesome!

Also, I don’t understand the argument that autism is caused by vaccines. If that’s the case, then why are so so so many children vaccinated WITHOUT developing an autistic spectrum disorder? I may have Asperger’s Syndrome, but neither of my siblings are at all on the spectrum, and we all got the same exact vaccines as kids. (I’m firmly in the camp that it’s genetic, since I’ve family members who would probably have been diagnosed similarly had it been around when they were kids. And this would have been prior to vaccines being used so ubiquitously, thanks much.)

As a mother with TWO autistic children, I find McCarthy’s ignorance appalling. Don’t we have enough difficulty in dealing with and understanding the Autism Spectrum without letting fad pseudo-science sway our families away from proper health care for our children?

THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE connecting immunizations and autism. Immunizations help keep our kids safe from dangerous diseases. Don’t they have enough to deal with without having to worry about illnesses that can be prevented?

unreal…why did the author of this article feel like jenny mccarthy’s comments were anything but disgusting? she threatens someone with an “angry mob” and claims that, because she has an autistic child, she has some special knowledge about the science of vaccinations?
the tone of this article is ridiculous and pro-ignorance.

Yeah, but it’s an angry mob of people who think JENNY McCARTHY IS A GENIUS.

Why do I picture a mob of Blinkin clones from “Men in Tights” all running in random directions screaming “I’LL SAVE YOU MASTER ROBIN!!!

That’s a mob you can distract with a handful of shiny beads.

I’ll also point out that lots of other things are on the rise besides vaccines and autism. For one, pirates.

vaccines cause pirates, too? OMG Jenny McCarthy’s son is going to become a pirate!

I have autism in my life (my son is autistic). But I don’t want Jenny McCarthy and her ignorance in my life.

Who does everyone think they are judging Jenny..And they believe the government will save them…Hello..

Amanda Peet is right with dozens of studies to back her up. No need for an angry mob.
If you say “No” to vaccines, you’re saying “Yes” to childhood diseases.

Kate says: As a mother with TWO autistic children, I find McCarthy’s ignorance appalling. Don’t we have enough difficulty in dealing with and understanding the Autism Spectrum without letting fad pseudo-science sway our families away from proper health care for our children?

end of quote.

Hey call me the bitch but sometimes this is what it takes to get it through these people’s heads. Hey Kate! Why don’t you have another child vaccinate it and make it three for three!

The government wouldn’t be making pay outs to people whose children are autistic as a RESULT OF VACCINATIONS.

Good luck with that 3rd child. they say 1 in 100 kids is autistic now. Yet I have hundreds of friends who didn’t immunize their kids and NONE of them are autistic. Imagine that.

But you keep telling yourself that. Go for number 3. 3rd times a charm. I have no sympathy for people who are so stupid they blindly trust the DRUG COMPANIES. Go talk to plenty of scientists AND doctors who disagree with you.

Liz Finn (and yes my uncle is Tom Finn the attorney who helped many people in this country whose children died or fell ill (or became autistic) from Vaccines.

“Good luck with that 3rd child. they say 1 in 100 kids is autistic now. Yet I have hundreds of friends who didn’t immunize their kids and NONE of them are autistic. Imagine that.”

That is a textbook post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacious bunch of reasoning.

Imagine THAT!

“Hey call me the bitch”

Okay. Bitch.

You are completely wrong, paranoid, delusional, and directly contributing to the spread of disease and the deaths of innocents. You are a monster. And a bitch.

If people like Liz and Jenny McCarthy had their way, kids would still be dying by the millions from polio.

dear liz: take a statistics class moron, that’s not how it works. and the only “doctors” who will agree with you are homeopaths and chiropractors who are so full of shit their eyes are brown.

you should be ashamed of yourself for promoting the vile and homicidal stupidity of the anti-vaccine movement.

[...] Jenny McCarthy fires back at Amanda “My Future Wife” Peet - I dare you not to laugh when you read this quote by Jenny: “(Peet) has a lot of [nerve] to come forward and be on that side, because there is an angry mob on my side, and I like the fact that I can say she’s completely wrong.” She added, “I look at (Peet) now and say to myself, ‘That was me before I had autism in my life,’ and until she walks in our shoes, she really has no idea.” [...]

HOLY CRAP LIZ! In that case, everyone in my country, Singapore, ought to be autistic because vaccines are the norm for children (who get shots in school)!…

…And yet, not a single one of my friends is authistic. Or my classmates. Or anybody I know. Isn’t it strange?

Oh, and your response was real civil, by the way.

What an appalling, thoughtless, hurtful comment from Liz Finn. Surprising? No. Actionable? Possibly.

McCarthy, - related to Joe?
Same kind of self-righteous bullying ignoramus, so . . . ?
Against stupidity even the gods fight in vain.

Re Liz Finn:

The only thing your post demonstrates is your family’s genetic link to stupidity.

Every decade or so, the anti-vaccine movement finds a new disease to flog–I’m old enough to remember when vaccines were the supposed cause of cancer, and AIDS.

So now it’s autism. When that cash cow dies, the anti-vaccine lobby and the lawyers who profit from them will move onto some other disease. They will target and attempt to sell their snake oil to vulnerable and desperate parents searching for answers.

I understand that there is a certain appeal to blaming vaccines, rather than accepting that sometimes, life hands you a less than ideal parenting situation.

My child has autism. She was born with it–it’s part of her. She had mercury-free vaccines. So did every child in her occupational therapy group…none of us parents are particularly impressed with Ms. McCarthy.

I have every sympathy with Jenny McCarthy’s predicament and that faced by all parents of autistic children, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are wrong about the facts. The MMR vacine has NEVER contaned thymerisol and the one study which showed a link was deeply flawed and so invalid.

There is no evidence that children who are innoculated are more likely to develope autism and LOTS of evidence that children whoe aren’t vacinated will get ill.

Furthermore, there is no reason to suspect the American Academy of Pediatrics of collusion and having an autistic child to license for slander.

The fact is simple, tested, and undeniable. Vaccines DO NOT cause autism, and those raving IDIOTS that cannot seem to smash this into their brains are killing babies with the diseases we HAD eradicated. Celeberties are not scientists, and apparently, not thinkers either. Shut up and dance you silver screen monkeys. That’s what we pay you for.

‘Green vaccines’ aren’t a truth movement, it’s a conspiracy group. “A big, bad, evil coalition which includes the AMA, the AAP, the FDA, the CDC, the NIH, and dozens of other professional organizations and government health groups from all around the world are trying to poison our kids through a campaign of lies and misinformation, but WE know what the truth is, and some day science that isn’t found to be complete bunk after a few minutes of research will support us, but everyone should buy into our theories RIGHT NOW because WE KNOW THAT WE’RE RIGHT”.

The best examples of “supporting evidence” against vaccinations here is the fact that you’re part of an angry mob (which are always bastions of reason), and that their child happened to have autism. “Going with the crowd” and “logical fallacies” are not what I’d want deciding the future of my kids, and if intelligent and informed research puts me against a loud and unreasonable lot, so be it.

I have seen polls with egregiously loaded questions before, but this is the first time I have seen one that evidently is dishonestly intended to end with a particular result. I cast my ballot (evidently for the wrong choice) and was informed that I had previously voted. I had not, in fact had never heard of this poll until ten minutes ago. This site offers dishonest polls.

they say 1 in 100 kids is autistic now.

Cite please.

Yet I have hundreds of friends who didn’t immunize their kids and NONE of them are autistic. Imagine that.

Well I have hundreds of friends who DID immunize their kids and NONE of them are autistic either ! Imagine THAT !
Hint : data is not the plural of anecdote.

I won’t call you a bitch, but the nastiness isn’t giving you any points you know.

Liz you are forgetting something. Let’s say we ignore all the evidence that says there is no link between autism and vaccines (not like you are looking at it anyway). Don’t you think an immunized child is better than a dead one even if they develop autism? I have no sympathy for people who blindly trust ILLOGICAL PROPAGANDA TOTED BY A CELEBRITY.
Honestly, I feel bad that you are putting your kids in danger but I feel much worse that by lowering the herd immunity you are putting everyone else’s kids in danger as well.

The nerds who pretend to be scientists from Science Blogs can’t cure autism.

But, parents who listen to actual scientists ARE curing autism. That means we addressed the right cause. That also tells us the science blog people are not being honest.

I do have autism in my life (a child with Aspergers) and I say McCarthy is flat wrong. And Liz… four kids, all vaccinated, only one ‘on the spectrum’.

I’ve seen your kind of ‘logic’ from creationists. Pretty easy to recognize, actually.

Liz, the gummint hasn’t made any payouts to people whose children are autistic as a result of vaccinations. You might like to think that the Poling case is proof positive that this has occurred; in fact, HHS authorized compensation because the clinical evidence suggested that the child’s mitochondrial disorder was exacerbated by a vaccine reaction. Big difference.

As for your uncle who self-published an antivaccinationist booklet 25 years ago (considering the tone of your comment, I’m guessing he read it to you as a bedtime story) — it looks like he’s showed up only twice in Vaccine Court, once in a case involving a living adult who received compensation, and also in a case involving a living child who didn’t. That’s not quite the boatload of dead and injured you’d like to make it out to be.

Check out Paul Offit’s book “Autism’s False Prophets”. It’s a well-written concise history of the rise of the antivax movement and it’s subsequent debunking.

I listened to the hype, got scared and didn’t vaccinate my daughter. Then I got educated, realized the absolute lack of basis for any of it, and got her shots caught up.

Science. It works.

MinorityView,
I do not see any reason anyone on this message board should be motivated to cite studies. It’s not as if most people, obviously including yourself, could read them in any critical manner anyway. There are different quality of studies ranging from very large, precise, well controlled studies all the way down to crap ones that have no scientific merit. If you were capapble of telling the difference then you would be on the other side of this debate.
The fact of the matter is that there is absolutely no reason to believe that vaccines are in any way connected to autism. They are safe and the side effects and rare symptoms are well worth the price of the herd immunity to the vaccine.

Kristin said:
“Jenny McCarthy is a baby-killer because of all the children that will die from preventable diseases because their parents didn’t vaccinate after listening to her.”

And Pauly PrOffit isn’t a baby killer? Especially considering how his Rota-Virus vaccine killed all those kids.

And vaccine preventable diseases are bad, yes. I agree 100%. Polio and some of the more deadly childhood diseases should be vaccinated for. But compare 10 vaccines when we were child to the 60+ vaccines our kids receive today. My goodness! How did we all survive childhood! We didn’t get all of these vaccines. Shouldn’t the majority of us be dead from these horrible childhood illnesses like Chicken Pox, mumps and measles? I mean, my goodness, in the 70’s, before these vaccines were common, they were just lining the streets with dead bodies of children who died from these diseases (sarcasm).

Her point is, are all of these necessary? Are we shooting ourselves in the foot, as a society, by trying to prevent illnesses that are typical childhood illnesses that carry a relatively low risk. Oh, I know, you’re going to say that measles and mumps can have complications. How common are these complications? In 3rd world countries where they lack the medical technology, they are still fairly uncommon. In America, they are almost non-existent.

By the way, all of you are forgetting that Hannah Poling was injured by vaccines. If it was possible for her to get injured by vaccines, then it is more than possible for other children to have the same result.

To all those who vote for Amanda (who are really voting for the continuation of large amounts of vaccines) I say this: I pray your child never falls into the world of Autism. But if they do, I can assure you that Amanda Peet will NOT be there to help you pull them out of that world, but Jenny McCarthy and other advocates will. May you never need them.

Out of the studies that show autism was not caused by vaccination, which one does McCarthy have a problem with?

For all the idiots who commented you’ll pick science over McCarthy, McCarthy is spreading research backed information. Maybe if you got more than Playboy in your mailbox, you’d see that McCarthy is one smart bunny - unlike Peet who listened to one man about vaccines and thinks she knows it all now!!!

Few comments here show any understanding of immunization theory, vaccine injury, biochemistry, medical ethics, the politics of bureaucracies — myriad interwoven elements of the issue. Sadly most people seem capable only of reductionism and fearmongering.

Investigating vaccine safety concerns is not equivalent to maligning shots. Simplified, is Ralph Nader anti-car? Is Meryl Streep anti-apple?

Tens of thousands of parents are reporting problems with vaccines. Yet public health administrators, manufacturers, media and consumers inexplicably try to dismiss these reports with reflexive and fallacious arguments — preferring uncomplicated ignorance.

Tragically that irresponsible inaction ensures continued injury to a subset of the population with genetic predispositions; note that Hannah Poling is not the only child with vaccine-induced autism who suffers from pre- or post-shot mitochondrial dysfunction.

Educate yourself. Read testimony to the Federal Omnibus Autism Proceedings (the “vaccine court”) that’s looked at this issue since 2002. Verdicts are expected in 2009.

Read vaccine injury reports to VAERS — the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System. Look atthe lab tests these families have as proof. The evidence will break your heart.

Read David Kirby’s 2005 book “Evidence of Harm” and you’ll understand the political machinations that prevent U.S. citizens from seeing vaccine injury statistics in the CDC’s Vaccine Safety Datalink.

Listen to people like Dr. Bernadine Healy, health editor for U.S. News and World Report. She was head of the Red Cross, and a director at the National Institutes of Health. Dr. Healy told CBS News last spring: “I think the government or certain public health officials within the government have been too quick to dismiss the concerns of these families without studying the population that got sick.”

Jenny McCarthy is right — until you have walked in her shoes, you have no clue. Until you have done the reading necessary to understand this topic, or talked with doctors and chemists and parents affected by vaccine-induced autism, show a little compassion and keep your mind open.

Or for those who are too lazy to investigate:

The first:
Conclusions There has (probably) been no real increase in the incidence of autism. There is no scientific evidence that the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine or the mercury preservative used in some vaccines plays any part in the aetiology or triggering of autism, even in a subgroup of children with the condition.

The second:
Our literature review found very few studies supporting this theory, with the overwhelming majority showing no causal association between the Measles-Mumps-Rubella vaccine and autism. The vaccine preservative thimerosal has alternatively been hypothesized to have a possible causal role in autism. Again, no convincing evidence was found to support this claim, nor for the use of chelation therapy in autism.

Next time you find a study supporting your view it needs to be compared to the majority of studies. Anecdotal evidence or a single study is not proof of anything. Vaccines remain completely safe.

For all the idiots who commented you’ll pick science over McCarthy, McCarthy is spreading research backed information.

It depends on what you mean by “research.” If you mean studying at the University of Google to find antivaccination websites, then, yes, her information is “research-backed.” It’s just really bad research. On the other hand, if by “research” you mean quality science, clinical trials, and epidemiology published in peer reviewed journals and representing the consensus of the best scientists in this area, then, no, you’re full of crap. Jenny is in fact spreading pseudoscience. She thinks her Google knowledge trumps actually knowing science and studying the science. Truly, Jenny McCarthy is a perfect example of the arrogance of ignorance.

It’s not really a question “who is right -0 McCarthy or Peet”. A more serious question is “what does the science say”? On that score, the only one that matters, Peet is right. Jenny still thinks vaccines contain anti-freeze and ether. Nuff said.

There is a whole lot of science showing a link between vaccines and autism, and the science is growing.

There are also thousands of “anecdotes” from credible parents who witnessed their children’s vaccine reactions followed by regression into autism. This goes way beyond “post hoc ergo propter hoc”.

Thimerosal is not the only cause of autism. Being overloaded with multiple viral vaccines (e.g.MMR+V) is not the only cause of autism. But vaccines definitely can cause autism. There are many suspect ingredients in vaccines, including high levels of aluminum, a neurotoxin, which has never been proven safe. Direct injections bypass the body’s normal immune and detox mechanisms in the lungs, skin, and GI tract.

We are not against vaccines. We are concerned that too many vaccines overload some babies’ immune, neuro, and gastro systems resulting in an array of problems — from mild to serious. All medications carry the risk of overdose. If a little is good, that does not mean that a lot is safe.

We understand the benefits of vaccines against illnesses such as polio and smallpox. But vaccinating all babies on the day of birth for Hep B? That’s crazy. That’s an example of faulty weighing of risks and benefits.

Those of you who are so smug and holier-than-thou in declaring vaccines safe don’t know what you are talking about. Read the vaccine inserts. Read David Kirby’s book Evidence of Harm, and Dr. Bryab Jepson’s book Changing the Course of Autism.

Jenny McCarthy is using her celebrity status to speak for thousands of parents and professionals who have seen that vaccines can cause autism, and that biomedical treatments such as diet and supplements can help many people with autism. Read her new book “Mother Warriors” for yourself. It tells a terribly important story. Thank you, Jenny McCarthy — mother warrior!

Twyla-20+ independent, peer reviewed studies debunking the vaccine myth isn’t enough to convince you?

…

Just checking.

There is a whole lot of science showing a link between vaccines and autism, and the science is growing.

No there isn’t and it is not.

There are also thousands of “anecdotes” from credible parents who witnessed their children’s vaccine reactions followed by regression into autism. This goes way beyond “post hoc ergo propter hoc”.

The plural of “anecdotes” (in actuality, testimonials, not anecdotes) is not “data.” And, no, it does not go beyond post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Jenny McCarthy is using her celebrity status to speak for thousands of parents and professionals who have seen that vaccines can cause autism, and that biomedical treatments such as diet and supplements can help many people with autism. Read her new book “Mother Warriors” for yourself. It tells a terribly important story. Thank you, Jenny McCarthy — mother warrior!

No, Jenny McCarthy is using her D-list celebrity status and the much greater celebrity status of her boyfriend Jim Carrey to promote a view that, if it catches on, will lead to suffering and death of childrens–all based on pseudoscience, ideology, misinformation, and outright lies. McCarthy is too ignorant to know that there is no antifreeze in vaccines. She thinks the tiny amount of formaldehyde in vaccines left over from the manufacturing process is a threat, even though it is tiny compared to what people are exposed to in the environment every day and is smaller than the amount that the human body makes through normal metabolic processes.

This is the only thing I “thank” Jenny McCarthy for:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/07/thanks_jenny_mccarthy.php

Twyla spake thusly: “… that biomedical treatments such as diet and supplements can help many people with autism.”

Um… let’s see what an actual study has to say about these diets.

Elder JH, Shankar M, Shuster J, Theriaque D, Burns S, Sherrill L. (2006). The gluten-free, casein-free diet in autism: results of a preliminary double blind clinical trial. Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders. Apr;36(3):413-20

“This study tested the efficacy of a gluten-free and casein-free (GFCF) diet in treating autism using a randomized, double blind repeated measures crossover design. The sample included 15 children aged 2-16 years with autism spectrum disorder. Data on autistic symptoms and urinary peptide levels were collected in the subjects’ homes over the 12 weeks that they were on the diet. Group data indicated no statistically significant findings even though several parents reported improvement in their children. Although preliminary, this study demonstrates how a controlled clinical trial of the GFCF diet can be conducted, and suggests directions for future research.”

Now, that doesn’t mean that the treatment can’t work, but it throws some doubt on it. Studies of this type will be able to identify whether there are effects. This is the type of research you need to back up claims of effectiveness, but this study didn’t confirm any benefit.

Slightly worse news:
Hediger ML, England LJ, Molloy CA, Yu KF, Manning-Courtney P, and Mills JL (2008). Reduced Bone Cortical Thickness in Boys with Autism or Autism Spectrum Disorder. Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders. May;38(3):848-856.

“Bone development, casein-free diet use, supplements, and medications were assessed for 75 boys with autism or autism spectrum disorder, ages 4–8 years. Second metacarpal bone cortical thickness (BCT), measured on hand-wrist radiographs, and % deviations in BCT from reference medians were derived. BCT increased with age, but % deviations evidenced a progressive fall-off (p = .02): +3.1 ± 4.7%, ?6.5 ± 4.0%, ?16.6 ± 3.4%, ?19.4 ± 3.7%, ?24.1 ± 4.4%, at ages 4–8, respectively, adjusting for height. The 12% of the boys on casein-free diets had an overall % deviation of ?18.9 ± 3.7%, nearly twice that of boys on minimally restricted or unrestricted diets (?10.5 ± 1.3%, p < .04), although even for boys on minimally restricted or unrestricted diets the % deviation was highly significant (p < .001). Our data suggest that the bone development of autistic boys should be monitored as part of routine care, especially if they are on casein-free diets.”

This suggests some possible bone development issues in these samples of autistic children, and that the diet exacerbates the problem. I certainly would think twice before using a treatment that doesn’t have anything but anecdotal evidence backing it, but has demonstrated potential to interfere with normal bone development.

Looks like you all have taken good care of the science end of things. I am going to go out today and buy an Amanda Peet movie. Never heard of her before, but she sounds great!

I agree with Jenny. Most of the epidemiology studies have serious flaws.
Even Dr.Gerberding has admitted in front of a congressional panel that the CDC
study released in 2003 is flawed. I wonder if you all are aware that the original version (1999)showed a significant correlation between Thimerosol containing vaccines and neuro problems among children. Then it was released 3-4 years later showing no association. We know about this because of a FOIA lawsuit brought against the CDC by an activist group named Safe Minds. Members of congress have approached the CDC for the original
datasets to be studied by independent researchers and the CDC says that the datasets have been lost or destroyed.
I find it very difficult to trust a group of people that cannot keep track of critical data.
I also wish to mention that the study
examining mercury levels in the blood of newborns does not tell the whole story.
Yes, blood levels decreased quickly, but
that does NOT mean that all the mercury
was excreted. The researchers did NOT
account for all the mercury being excreted from these children’s bodies.
I know that everyone has been focusing in on mercury, but also there are high levels of Aluminum in the vaccines and that can be causing problems in some children.
I am also mistrustful of the CDC because there is a study that is begging to be done that our health officials refuse to do and that is the vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study. Why has that not been done ?
I have to admit, I always thought Jenny was just a ditzy blonde, but she’s really a smart cookie.
Nobody wants their child to get a horrible disease, but there are harmful toxins that are in these vaccines that some children are not able to excrete efficiently.
The science is there to support that hypothesis. You just have to take the time to look. There are studies of the biology of these children that show reduced levels of Glutathione. Glutathione is the body’s main molecule
that binds to heavy metals and enables the body to excrete these toxins.
I urge anyone who is interested in the vaccine- autism debate to listen to the audio clips that are on the Autism Omnibus website and hear the evidence presented with an open mind.
Jenny is not an idiot, she HAS done the research. Our government officials have exposed an entire generation of children
to highly toxic untested substances and will never admit that they have made the biggest screwup in medical history.

For ALL OF YOU that have propped yourselves up on pedestals by slamming Jenny and hailing ’science,’ please vaporize NOW. Ignorant fools like yourself CLEARLY have NOT DONE THE RESEARCH it takes to understand how YOUR TAX DOLLARS are funding the debilitating gene pool that our society is becoming. Think lobbyists from pharmaceutical companies turning every shot into heavier pockets for mainstream pediatricians. Doctors will use scare tactics to coerce parents into thinking they’ve done the right thing. Who cares about Jenny McCarthy’s past, when she’s doing something quite honorable these days by putting forth news that can save children’s lives. She has learned a lesson & is now living it. Amanda Peet - really - can you blame her? Pharmaceutical companies JUST USED her as spokesperson to slam Jenny, and she went along w/ it. So if you really wanted to get into WHO STARTED IT - big pharma did, and Amanda is clearly gullible.

MOM to a 6 month UNVACCINATED baby girl in Berkeley, CA.

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It is amazing to me at the amount of people talking smack. A lot of you are slamming Jenny because she simply wants to GREEN our vaccines and take out the uneeded toxins. She does NOT want to do away with any vaccines. She understands how important they are!

I am a proud mom of a 6 year old son with Autism. I also believe that CONTAMINATED vaccines caused my sons Autism. I know alot of you dont agree with that theory. But until you see a completelty normal child go from healthy and normal to autistic in a matter of days of recieving so many vaccines at once. You will NEVER understand what us mothers feel. We are not trying to Blame anyone. But when your child goes from fine to having a life long disabilty, it makes you think.

I also agree that vaccines are VERY important. I am NOT against them. However I am against that many in one day. I believe these vaccines need to be broken up into smaller dosages so that these children are not getting OVER vaccined. The amount of Toxins in these vaccines are mind blowing. All we want is to make them safer and remove the toxins. Thats all Jenny wants. She is simply saying lets clean them up and test our children to see if their little bodies can handle that many vaccines.

There is no need to name call Jenny. She just wants what every other mom wants. To have a happy and healthy child.

@Kristyn

“I am a proud mom of a 6 year old son with Autism. I also believe that CONTAMINATED vaccines caused my sons Autism. I know alot of you dont agree with that theory. But until you see a completelty normal child go from healthy and normal to autistic in a matter of days of recieving so many vaccines at once. You will NEVER understand what us mothers feel. We are not trying to Blame anyone. But when your child goes from fine to having a life long disabilty, it makes you think.”

We don’t agree with the theory (and, frankly, this whole line of thinking does a great disservice to the noble word ‘theory’), because there is no evidence to support it.

No amount of anecdote is evidence. Evidence comes in the form of studies that control for other variables that could have caused the observed effect, which anecdote absolutely does not do.

“However I am against that many in one day. I believe these vaccines need to be broken up into smaller dosages so that these children are not getting OVER vaccined.”

What you believe is irrelevant. All that matters is what is true. There is no evidence that multiple vaccinations is harmful. End of story. When this evidence is proffered, I will change my opinion. This is the way rational people think; let the evidence guide your opinion.

“She just wants what every other mom wants. To have a happy and healthy child.”

No doubt. But what she is doing, in reality, is making things worse by diverting attention (and, most importantly, money) from those people who wish to find the real causes of autism. She is doing active harm. When she is able to provide evidence to back up her point of view, we will take her seriously.

“If you really care about the origin of autism and various encephalopathies, why are you wasting your time praising this ridiculous, debunked hypothesis? Go and spend your time and give donations to organizations that look for the real causes of these issues.”

Because it’s hard to garner sympathy as the mother of a victim of an oppressive regime if there isn’t a regime to rail against?

@thinkformyself: Please be sure to write your memoirs and tell-all exposés. In the future, parents of whatever disease will then be used by the pro-pseudoscience anti-vaccine lobby will appreciate a manual on how to win fame and celebrity on the back of their child’s illness.

By the way, I know you’re busy bandying anecdotes around (the same kind the tobacco lobby used to repress the link between smoking and cancer for decades), but in the interest of honest disclosure you really should thank the creationists for your screen name. Styling oneself “IThinkForMyself” in an attempt to posit yourself as some sort of outside-the-box free-thinker (when you’re really no more than a run-of-the-mill conspiracy theorist with a sob story) has been a hallmark of their strategy of deceit for years.