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	<title>Comments on: Oprah To Address Dark Side Of Chicken Farming Today!</title>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.  This is about the funniest post I have ever read.  If it were not for animals we would not be here.  Our stoneage fathers slaughtered animals and grilled them on an open fire!  If you look today we see all kinds of animals being eaten alive.  Should we tell all the preditors of the world to stop?  That is life and I dont see a single thing wrong with ringing a chickens neck or sticking a pig or taking a club to the back of a rabbits head.  We all have to eat.  I am a farmer and growing grain and veggies is doing far more damage to our envirenment than haveing to worry about the pain an animal feels when it is raised and slaughtered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.  This is about the funniest post I have ever read.  If it were not for animals we would not be here.  Our stoneage fathers slaughtered animals and grilled them on an open fire!  If you look today we see all kinds of animals being eaten alive.  Should we tell all the preditors of the world to stop?  That is life and I dont see a single thing wrong with ringing a chickens neck or sticking a pig or taking a club to the back of a rabbits head.  We all have to eat.  I am a farmer and growing grain and veggies is doing far more damage to our envirenment than haveing to worry about the pain an animal feels when it is raised and slaughtered.</p>
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		<title>By: Oprah Pimps KFC After Running Special on ‘Dark Side’ of Chicken Factory Farming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oprah Pimps KFC After Running Special on ‘Dark Side’ of Chicken Factory Farming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 12:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] six months after running a special about the ‘dark side of chicken factory farming’, Oprah has teamed with KFC to give a free two-piece grilled chicken meal to every family in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Oprah Buys Everyone Free KFC, Chickens Everywhere Cry Fowl // Archives // ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oprah Buys Everyone Free KFC, Chickens Everywhere Cry Fowl // Archives // ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 02:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that special Oprah had last year addressing the &#8220;dark side&#8221; of chicken factory farming? The same one that helped earn her PETA 2008 &#8220;Person of the Year&#8221; Award? Yea, well, we [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that special Oprah had last year addressing the &#8220;dark side&#8221; of chicken factory farming? The same one that helped earn her PETA 2008 &#8220;Person of the Year&#8221; Award? Yea, well, we [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps, animals don&#039;t feel pain.. are you out of your mind. Why do you think they are screaming. I have a dog and if she gets hurt she runs to me and jumps in my lap NEEDing comfort. You need a reality check if you think an animal does not have feelings, why do they have sex, why do they care for their young (If Allowed). I have never been so embarrassed or ashamed to be human. We trust these farmers to do the right thing.  I guess the saying, &quot;We don&#039;t know what goes on behind closed doors&quot;. Shame on you....what kind of evil are we allowing, and this is evil behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps, animals don&#8217;t feel pain.. are you out of your mind. Why do you think they are screaming. I have a dog and if she gets hurt she runs to me and jumps in my lap NEEDing comfort. You need a reality check if you think an animal does not have feelings, why do they have sex, why do they care for their young (If Allowed). I have never been so embarrassed or ashamed to be human. We trust these farmers to do the right thing.  I guess the saying, &#8220;We don&#8217;t know what goes on behind closed doors&#8221;. Shame on you&#8230;.what kind of evil are we allowing, and this is evil behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not believe a human would treat any living thing as it was worse than dirt. Yes people eat meat, protein diets actually keeps your weight down. It is the added carbs that put on pounds. But after viewing how we slaughter our food, I will never.. eat another animal. We are worse than the dinosaurs, at least they hunted and killed swiftly. Perhaps God will send another asteroid, we sure deserve it. Why do humans always find something to abuse. Animals, children, their partners,slavery. These animals are raised for our survival, it is so hard to find a human way to put them to death... Maybe the next time around we will be on the lower food chain. I hope we are not hung by our feet, heads ripped off, babies ripped out of our bodies, faces burned, put in little boxes so we can not move,beaten, kicked, thrown against walls, just to be abused before being put to death. WHO ARE THE ANIMALS.. Oh God Help Us.. and Go Oprah...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not believe a human would treat any living thing as it was worse than dirt. Yes people eat meat, protein diets actually keeps your weight down. It is the added carbs that put on pounds. But after viewing how we slaughter our food, I will never.. eat another animal. We are worse than the dinosaurs, at least they hunted and killed swiftly. Perhaps God will send another asteroid, we sure deserve it. Why do humans always find something to abuse. Animals, children, their partners,slavery. These animals are raised for our survival, it is so hard to find a human way to put them to death&#8230; Maybe the next time around we will be on the lower food chain. I hope we are not hung by our feet, heads ripped off, babies ripped out of our bodies, faces burned, put in little boxes so we can not move,beaten, kicked, thrown against walls, just to be abused before being put to death. WHO ARE THE ANIMALS.. Oh God Help Us.. and Go Oprah&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Oprah Named PETA&#8217;s 2008 Person Of The Year // Archives // ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oprah Named PETA&#8217;s 2008 Person Of The Year // Archives // ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] values. From exposing  the horrific abuses that occur in puppy mills, to nasty conditions for chickens, pigs, and veal calves on factory farms, and even a personal 21-day vegan diet to highlight a meat and dairy-free lifestyle. PETA President [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Science Commenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Science Commenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RM,

Animals would probably have enough food if populations existed they way they should in nature. But natural isn&#039;t how the factory farm industry breeds. They can produce way more animals for food through breeding than if you gave every creature it&#039;s own bottle of Viagra.

The majority of meat produced today doesn&#039;t &quot;even out the population,&quot; because it&#039;s created from an artifical one. 

With a worldwide shortage of food, veggie life is the best way to go, since producing meat is so frickin&#039; expensive and consumes so much energy and landspace we could be growing plant crops on to feed people versus growing food for animals to eat, then slicing and dicing them for food. See how there&#039;s an extra step in between there. The shortest route is usually the best.

If mandatory rules forces animal farmers to raise prices and the demand shrinks, good. If they don&#039;t want it, then you&#039;ll have to think of something else (plant based) to produce.

Oh, and Oprah would keep weight down better if she stayed vegan for life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RM,</p>
<p>Animals would probably have enough food if populations existed they way they should in nature. But natural isn&#8217;t how the factory farm industry breeds. They can produce way more animals for food through breeding than if you gave every creature it&#8217;s own bottle of Viagra.</p>
<p>The majority of meat produced today doesn&#8217;t &#8220;even out the population,&#8221; because it&#8217;s created from an artifical one. </p>
<p>With a worldwide shortage of food, veggie life is the best way to go, since producing meat is so frickin&#8217; expensive and consumes so much energy and landspace we could be growing plant crops on to feed people versus growing food for animals to eat, then slicing and dicing them for food. See how there&#8217;s an extra step in between there. The shortest route is usually the best.</p>
<p>If mandatory rules forces animal farmers to raise prices and the demand shrinks, good. If they don&#8217;t want it, then you&#8217;ll have to think of something else (plant based) to produce.</p>
<p>Oh, and Oprah would keep weight down better if she stayed vegan for life.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello.  I understand that people don&#039;t want chickens to be abused.  Can someone please tell me if there are any fast food chains that don&#039;t abuse chickens or any chickens to eat that are not abused (besides free-range whole foods chickens)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello.  I understand that people don&#8217;t want chickens to be abused.  Can someone please tell me if there are any fast food chains that don&#8217;t abuse chickens or any chickens to eat that are not abused (besides free-range whole foods chickens)</p>
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		<title>By: RM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see the show but I can imagine how it was presented. As a poultry farmer it chaps my ass to see some overpaid so called celebrity telling me how to make a living. For the most part my chickens are taken better care of than my family. I would love to be able to do some of the things some groups suggest but productivity would go down and people are not willing to pay the extra expense. With a world wide food shortage this seems to me a strange direction to go. Perhaps if Oprah couldn&#039;t get anything to eat she could keep her weight down and have a different point of view. PETA and other animal rights groups would have us turn all animals out and we will all become vegetarians. That sounds great but what do you think the animals will eat? People would be in competition for the same food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see the show but I can imagine how it was presented. As a poultry farmer it chaps my ass to see some overpaid so called celebrity telling me how to make a living. For the most part my chickens are taken better care of than my family. I would love to be able to do some of the things some groups suggest but productivity would go down and people are not willing to pay the extra expense. With a world wide food shortage this seems to me a strange direction to go. Perhaps if Oprah couldn&#8217;t get anything to eat she could keep her weight down and have a different point of view. PETA and other animal rights groups would have us turn all animals out and we will all become vegetarians. That sounds great but what do you think the animals will eat? People would be in competition for the same food.</p>
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		<title>By: fbr</title>
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		<dc:creator>fbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Science Commenter, you bring up an interesting point about pain and discomfort in animals. However, it is not at all self-evident that the nature of pain in a self-aware being with a vast mental capacity like a human is similar to pain in a non self-aware animals (or self-aware animals, if such exist). Does a cockroach have the same capacity to feel pain as a dolphin, and should be therefore not hurt cockroaches? How about chickens versus human beings? I&#039;m not saying that no animal has the same capacity to feel pain and discomfort as humans, I&#039;m simply saying that it&#039;s not self-evident that they do.

Second, another interesting point you raise is the link between animal cruelty and cruelty towards humans. I actually went through the research on this topic a while back and while it&#039;s true that many studies have found correlations, there were no convincing arguments about the causal relationship. So your suggestion that accepting pain and discomfort in animals leads to accepting that in humans simply has no basis in the light of our current knowledge. To me personally, that argument smells a lot like the &quot;marijuana as a gateway drug&quot; argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Science Commenter, you bring up an interesting point about pain and discomfort in animals. However, it is not at all self-evident that the nature of pain in a self-aware being with a vast mental capacity like a human is similar to pain in a non self-aware animals (or self-aware animals, if such exist). Does a cockroach have the same capacity to feel pain as a dolphin, and should be therefore not hurt cockroaches? How about chickens versus human beings? I&#8217;m not saying that no animal has the same capacity to feel pain and discomfort as humans, I&#8217;m simply saying that it&#8217;s not self-evident that they do.</p>
<p>Second, another interesting point you raise is the link between animal cruelty and cruelty towards humans. I actually went through the research on this topic a while back and while it&#8217;s true that many studies have found correlations, there were no convincing arguments about the causal relationship. So your suggestion that accepting pain and discomfort in animals leads to accepting that in humans simply has no basis in the light of our current knowledge. To me personally, that argument smells a lot like the &#8220;marijuana as a gateway drug&#8221; argument.</p>
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