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	<title>Comments on: PETA To Haunt Olsen Twins At Book Signing Tomorrow</title>
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		<title>By: PETA keep animals out of the closet &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>PETA keep animals out of the closet &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scooterlady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scooterlady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You’re hurting people. You’re hurting peoples pride and dignity and you could even possibly be ruining jobs.&quot;

How do you compare pride, dignity, jobs to LIVING CREATURES????

PETA may be crazy at times, but at the same time, I agree w/them going after ppl wearing furs.

I saw various &quot;cruelty to animals&quot; videos and I don&#039;t understand how someone wld wear a fur. 

Every little action re: animal rights is a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You’re hurting people. You’re hurting peoples pride and dignity and you could even possibly be ruining jobs.&#8221;</p>
<p>How do you compare pride, dignity, jobs to LIVING CREATURES????</p>
<p>PETA may be crazy at times, but at the same time, I agree w/them going after ppl wearing furs.</p>
<p>I saw various &#8220;cruelty to animals&#8221; videos and I don&#8217;t understand how someone wld wear a fur. </p>
<p>Every little action re: animal rights is a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: justme</title>
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		<dc:creator>justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just don&#039;t understand how this is helping those animals. 

aren&#039;t you kind of contradicting yourself, trying to save animals thus by bashing on people.
you&#039;re hurting people.
you&#039;re hurting peoples pride and dignity and you could even possibly be ruining jobs.

its really ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just don&#8217;t understand how this is helping those animals. </p>
<p>aren&#8217;t you kind of contradicting yourself, trying to save animals thus by bashing on people.<br />
you&#8217;re hurting people.<br />
you&#8217;re hurting peoples pride and dignity and you could even possibly be ruining jobs.</p>
<p>its really ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Oversneer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oversneer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the best part of the book release was when the anti-fur PETA protesters showed up, and one of them was wearing a fur-trimmed coat.

http://tinyurl.com/OlsensFur

You can&#039;t make this stuff up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the best part of the book release was when the anti-fur PETA protesters showed up, and one of them was wearing a fur-trimmed coat.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/OlsensFur" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/OlsensFur</a></p>
<p>You can&#8217;t make this stuff up.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments, fbr. I guess the question boils down to why we as a species cannot treat others with respect. We all have live in the natural cycle of life and death, but that doesn&#039;t mean that compassion can&#039;t be a part of it. 

Suffering will always exist -- the pursuit of a Utopian society is silly -- but in my opinion that should not discount trying to make the world a better place for all of those on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments, fbr. I guess the question boils down to why we as a species cannot treat others with respect. We all have live in the natural cycle of life and death, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that compassion can&#8217;t be a part of it. </p>
<p>Suffering will always exist &#8212; the pursuit of a Utopian society is silly &#8212; but in my opinion that should not discount trying to make the world a better place for all of those on it.</p>
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		<title>By: fbr</title>
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		<dc:creator>fbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arguments for compassion towards animals are quite popular. However, they are problematic:

First, it does not cover the whole position of many animal rights activists: A hunter who is a skilled marksman can kill an animal in a fraction of a second with no suffering and thus the compassion argument is not applicable. Yet most animal rights activists are against hunting.

Second, it&#039;s not clear that the nature of suffering in animals is the same as the suffering in humans. Many people instinctively interpret some behaviors of animals as signs of &quot;joy&quot; or &quot;pain&quot; and then assume that the animals are going through the same experience as a human would while feeling joy or pain. This might very well be a false interpretation: I&#039;ve personally experienced a false sense of intuitive compassion towards a robot designed to show signs of distress.

Third, while it might be nice to live in a utopia where no animal or human would ever suffer, such a pursuit is not realistic. Chasing a utopia can even be very damaging. Instead one must always consider the gain from the suffering or discomfort. Not accepting any is not realistic. Even a vegetarian diet has a cost in terms of causing pain and discomfort to both humans and animals - only it is harder to capture on camera than a chicken farm.

Finally the argument that every living thing has a soul basically boils down to a religious belief. It is not really surprising considering the religious fervor and refusal to consider, or compose, rational arguments that many animal rights activists exhibit. Everyone is of course entitled to such beliefs, but they do not make good arguments and should not be used as a basis for, e.g., public policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguments for compassion towards animals are quite popular. However, they are problematic:</p>
<p>First, it does not cover the whole position of many animal rights activists: A hunter who is a skilled marksman can kill an animal in a fraction of a second with no suffering and thus the compassion argument is not applicable. Yet most animal rights activists are against hunting.</p>
<p>Second, it&#8217;s not clear that the nature of suffering in animals is the same as the suffering in humans. Many people instinctively interpret some behaviors of animals as signs of &#8220;joy&#8221; or &#8220;pain&#8221; and then assume that the animals are going through the same experience as a human would while feeling joy or pain. This might very well be a false interpretation: I&#8217;ve personally experienced a false sense of intuitive compassion towards a robot designed to show signs of distress.</p>
<p>Third, while it might be nice to live in a utopia where no animal or human would ever suffer, such a pursuit is not realistic. Chasing a utopia can even be very damaging. Instead one must always consider the gain from the suffering or discomfort. Not accepting any is not realistic. Even a vegetarian diet has a cost in terms of causing pain and discomfort to both humans and animals &#8211; only it is harder to capture on camera than a chicken farm.</p>
<p>Finally the argument that every living thing has a soul basically boils down to a religious belief. It is not really surprising considering the religious fervor and refusal to consider, or compose, rational arguments that many animal rights activists exhibit. Everyone is of course entitled to such beliefs, but they do not make good arguments and should not be used as a basis for, e.g., public policy.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, the underlying common denominator is that animals should be treated with compassion. The world will not give up fur tomorrow, McDonald&#039;s won&#039;t replace meat with veggie burgers -- but the basic first step towards our relationship with our use of animals should be based on compassion. Currently, that form of respect is lacking in so many industries; like the fur trade. 
 
To me, every animal has a right to a life free of pain and suffering. But that also comes from my belief that all things have a soul. Almost all experience emotion -- and while they cannot express it through voice -- display fear or joy in other discerning ways. 

To not show respect towards other living creatures, for me, means we are a species lacking compassion beyond our own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, the underlying common denominator is that animals should be treated with compassion. The world will not give up fur tomorrow, McDonald&#8217;s won&#8217;t replace meat with veggie burgers &#8212; but the basic first step towards our relationship with our use of animals should be based on compassion. Currently, that form of respect is lacking in so many industries; like the fur trade. </p>
<p>To me, every animal has a right to a life free of pain and suffering. But that also comes from my belief that all things have a soul. Almost all experience emotion &#8212; and while they cannot express it through voice &#8212; display fear or joy in other discerning ways. </p>
<p>To not show respect towards other living creatures, for me, means we are a species lacking compassion beyond our own.</p>
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		<title>By: fbr</title>
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		<dc:creator>fbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VeggieTart, the burden of proof is clearly on the side claiming that animals should have some specific rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VeggieTart, the burden of proof is clearly on the side claiming that animals should have some specific rights.</p>
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		<title>By: VeggieTart</title>
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		<dc:creator>VeggieTart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fbr, tell me why they shouldn&#039;t have rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fbr, tell me why they shouldn&#8217;t have rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went, it was pretty uneventful and boring as for as protests go. It was really glorified leafleting. A lot of people actually did take literature and fliers, but no one really asked questions or talked about the fur trade like i normally see at demos. No chants, no shouting...not even and pictures of the animals....graphic or otherwise....bleh.

I wish the media would cover a REAL protest XD

But I went and tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went, it was pretty uneventful and boring as for as protests go. It was really glorified leafleting. A lot of people actually did take literature and fliers, but no one really asked questions or talked about the fur trade like i normally see at demos. No chants, no shouting&#8230;not even and pictures of the animals&#8230;.graphic or otherwise&#8230;.bleh.</p>
<p>I wish the media would cover a REAL protest XD</p>
<p>But I went and tried.</p>
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