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	<title>Comments on: Proposition 2 Passes In California With Overwhelming Majority</title>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 06:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t possibly compare this to proposition 8. The gays aren&#039;t being locked in cages where the can&#039;t stand up or turn around, never seeing the light of day until they&#039;re headed to their deaths. They are not given drugs so that they grow so obese that they can&#039;t even stand on their own legs. They don&#039;t get their toes burned off without pain killers. They can live reasonably normal lives, and even live together. They just can&#039;t get married.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t possibly compare this to proposition 8. The gays aren&#8217;t being locked in cages where the can&#8217;t stand up or turn around, never seeing the light of day until they&#8217;re headed to their deaths. They are not given drugs so that they grow so obese that they can&#8217;t even stand on their own legs. They don&#8217;t get their toes burned off without pain killers. They can live reasonably normal lives, and even live together. They just can&#8217;t get married.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 06:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Kelly. If only you knew the conditions that these pigs live in. 
The pigs probably wished they were dead. They only stayed alive in these conditions because of drugs. Otherwise they&#039;d all have died.
I think that the obvious vote was yes.
Oh, and prop 2 is not about being vegetarian, it&#039;s about preventing animals from being confined. People went veggie BECAUSE people were treating animals this way. As a protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Kelly. If only you knew the conditions that these pigs live in.<br />
The pigs probably wished they were dead. They only stayed alive in these conditions because of drugs. Otherwise they&#8217;d all have died.<br />
I think that the obvious vote was yes.<br />
Oh, and prop 2 is not about being vegetarian, it&#8217;s about preventing animals from being confined. People went veggie BECAUSE people were treating animals this way. As a protest.</p>
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		<title>By: HSUS Counts Down The New Year With Nigel Barker, Prop 2 and More // Archives // ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip</title>
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		<dc:creator>HSUS Counts Down The New Year With Nigel Barker, Prop 2 and More // Archives // ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been one hell of a year for the Human Society of the United States! With the passing of Proposition 2, a seal-hunt documentary by Nigel Barker and much, much more, the HSUS is doing their part to help [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been one hell of a year for the Human Society of the United States! With the passing of Proposition 2, a seal-hunt documentary by Nigel Barker and much, much more, the HSUS is doing their part to help [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Only in California &#171; 4Simpsons Blog - Eternity Matters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Only in California &#171; 4Simpsons Blog - Eternity Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in&#160;California  Posted on November 11, 2008 by Neil   Proposition 2 passed, meaning that farm animals will have more reasonably sized cages.  No objections [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in&nbsp;California  Posted on November 11, 2008 by Neil   Proposition 2 passed, meaning that farm animals will have more reasonably sized cages.  No objections [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriele C. Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriele C. Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take away the meanness, cruelty &amp; give enjoyment.  Make this a better place &amp; you will have a better world. I am absolutely amazed that human kind is able to feel the joyful light of hope to make life peaceful &amp; a quality time for those who trully need this miracle happen.  Please make it happen now, as this is urgent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take away the meanness, cruelty &amp; give enjoyment.  Make this a better place &amp; you will have a better world. I am absolutely amazed that human kind is able to feel the joyful light of hope to make life peaceful &amp; a quality time for those who trully need this miracle happen.  Please make it happen now, as this is urgent!</p>
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		<title>By: kyleSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyleSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power to the people!  It&#039;s amazing what we can do when we unite for a cause.  I&#039;m surprised by the nearly 40% who voted No on 2.  They must be cold, heartless people who are extremely gullible to the scare tactics brought on by the No on 2 campaign. 

Is it so terrible to give living beings a little more room before people slice them up for their selfish tastes? I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power to the people!  It&#8217;s amazing what we can do when we unite for a cause.  I&#8217;m surprised by the nearly 40% who voted No on 2.  They must be cold, heartless people who are extremely gullible to the scare tactics brought on by the No on 2 campaign. </p>
<p>Is it so terrible to give living beings a little more room before people slice them up for their selfish tastes? I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranch girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranch girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAIN-RA, what a rude person you are. You are one of those that have a different view of how to live and when someone doesn&#039;t agree you get really defensive but then turn the situation like the world is out to get you. If you like it and it works for you great....Just do it and stop pushing the rest who don&#039;t, state it and let them decide if they care to take it or leave it!!!!!!
I as a matter of fact regularly see a ND and have never been told I have to be a vegan to be healthy. Everyone is different and what may work for one may not work for the other. I have known people that believed the hype on being vegan and have become very ill only to find incorporating meat back in the diet put them back on track so a fact that it may not apply to all.
Choose what works for you.....sorry it doesn&#039;t work for me but it is my choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAIN-RA, what a rude person you are. You are one of those that have a different view of how to live and when someone doesn&#8217;t agree you get really defensive but then turn the situation like the world is out to get you. If you like it and it works for you great&#8230;.Just do it and stop pushing the rest who don&#8217;t, state it and let them decide if they care to take it or leave it!!!!!!<br />
I as a matter of fact regularly see a ND and have never been told I have to be a vegan to be healthy. Everyone is different and what may work for one may not work for the other. I have known people that believed the hype on being vegan and have become very ill only to find incorporating meat back in the diet put them back on track so a fact that it may not apply to all.<br />
Choose what works for you&#8230;..sorry it doesn&#8217;t work for me but it is my choice.</p>
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		<title>By: RAIN-RA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAIN-RA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FBR

watch more information... 
http://www.heartattackproof.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FBR</p>
<p>watch more information&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.heartattackproof.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.heartattackproof.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: RAIN-RA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAIN-RA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FBR
correlation or not or however you want to look at studies your stating no facts. Your point is all opinion based. This is because that is all you have to go on. You look at rare situations where people have so called super genes like smokers who live to 100 smoking their whole life. Yeah their are random situations where people no matter how much damage they do to their bodies they will still survive. That does not go for most people. If you want to state rare situations go ahead. I will keep bringing you facts. Vegetarian diet is not what I aim for, since dairy is involved and that is bad as well. And yeah your right a Vegan who eats french fries and drinks soda and eats crap is still at risk of being unhealthy. That is why I stated a whole food plant based diet. Show me one case where someone ate steak and fought off their cancer. OR reversed their heart disease... Go ahead I give you a 30 day challenge and just eat meat no plants no fruits and vegetables or plant based sources. See how long you last before getting malnutrition. Now see the opposite with a plant based diet not only will you get everything you need but you will thrive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FBR<br />
correlation or not or however you want to look at studies your stating no facts. Your point is all opinion based. This is because that is all you have to go on. You look at rare situations where people have so called super genes like smokers who live to 100 smoking their whole life. Yeah their are random situations where people no matter how much damage they do to their bodies they will still survive. That does not go for most people. If you want to state rare situations go ahead. I will keep bringing you facts. Vegetarian diet is not what I aim for, since dairy is involved and that is bad as well. And yeah your right a Vegan who eats french fries and drinks soda and eats crap is still at risk of being unhealthy. That is why I stated a whole food plant based diet. Show me one case where someone ate steak and fought off their cancer. OR reversed their heart disease&#8230; Go ahead I give you a 30 day challenge and just eat meat no plants no fruits and vegetables or plant based sources. See how long you last before getting malnutrition. Now see the opposite with a plant based diet not only will you get everything you need but you will thrive</p>
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		<title>By: fbr</title>
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		<dc:creator>fbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RA-RAIN, you are obviously not a trained researcher so it&#039;s pointless to argue about the value of these types of studies or the methodology used. The citation that you had is all about correlations. It does not prove anything. It seems to be a very common phenomenon these days that people hold issues like vegetarianism or (yes!) climate change with religious conviction, citing studies that they do not understand just like the Christians cite the Bible.

You&#039;re right on one point though. I do enjoy meat. The world is full of people who are living, and have lived, a perfectly healthy life with meat in their diet. I don&#039;t have to &quot;defend my meat eating no matter what the evidence says&quot;, I have every right to do so and I carry the risks by myself. If you think vegetarian diet has no risks you&#039;re just delusional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RA-RAIN, you are obviously not a trained researcher so it&#8217;s pointless to argue about the value of these types of studies or the methodology used. The citation that you had is all about correlations. It does not prove anything. It seems to be a very common phenomenon these days that people hold issues like vegetarianism or (yes!) climate change with religious conviction, citing studies that they do not understand just like the Christians cite the Bible.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right on one point though. I do enjoy meat. The world is full of people who are living, and have lived, a perfectly healthy life with meat in their diet. I don&#8217;t have to &#8220;defend my meat eating no matter what the evidence says&#8221;, I have every right to do so and I carry the risks by myself. If you think vegetarian diet has no risks you&#8217;re just delusional.</p>
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