Comments on: Ellen Degeneres Speaks Out On Barack Obama, Proposition 8

By: tim robbins

tim robbins — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:06:11 +0000

“i can understand this happening in Iran or some other religiously militant country, but we are talking about the bastian of democracy and the free world. ”

why only iran? this happens in a lot of african countries, they are not as open as people think. also “religous militant” , what do you think america is?

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By: Elysia

Elysia — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:35:18 +0000

Why is it that the title “Marriage” is so important to the gay community when its a biblical union, which does not support people who are unable to reproduce to be together. Why aren’t you happy with calling your union something else thats not biblical. God does not hate the sinner he hates the sin.

By: Judah

Judah — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:15:56 +0000

Yes, but you’re also missing something in this issue. Who defines who gets what rights? Who makes the “rules” as far as which rights get to be challenged? Which are considered “unfair”? “Unequal?” What if an uncle “loves” his niece, and the two want to get married? Who says they couldn’t get married? They love each other, right? So who gets to define what’s “appropriate” and what’s not? What if a brother and sister “love” each other and want to get married? Who’s right is it to tell them that they can’t get married? Too farfetched? Why? Where is the line drawn? To Whom or to What do we draw, create, define, etc. our societal laws from?

The real issue is how marriage is defined, as by it’s original creation, Creator and design. And that is between a man and a woman. If there are rights that the homosexual community does not have as domestic partners, or with civil unions, then I would agree, they should have every right as taxpaying citizens of the US – benefits, tax breaks, ability to purchase real estate, etc. However, to change the definition of marriage, that is another story with another argument.

By: fbr

fbr — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:25:35 +0000

Judah, nobody has challenged the right of proposition 8 supporters to have their opinions. On the contrary, I think you’ll find that the opposition to proposition 8 would be staunch supporter of universal right to vote – even for those who voted “yes” on proposition 8. Therein lies the failure of your analogy: supporters of proposition 8 got to vote – gays don’t get to marry.

People who voted “yes” on proposition 8 voted for inequality for same-sex couples and heterosexual couples, even if the relationships are exactly the same in all other aspects besides their sexes.

By: Judah

Judah — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:22:12 +0000

This is not about equality. It’s about a group of people’s belief on how marriage is defined. The amazing this to me about this is that those who were against Prop 8 are name calling those who voted for Prop 8. The hypocrisy, intollerance and ignorance is astounding to me! They’re allowed to have their opinion yet those who voted yes for Prop 8 are not allowed to have theirs! Come on people. Look in the mirror!

By: Trace

Trace — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:01:49 +0000

Are they telling us we are not human? Are we not real? We all came from our mothers, and as far as I can remember, when I came out of the womb, nobody handed me a title that said who I was going to be or who I had to be. There was not a basket set aside saying damaged goods place here!!! WHY!!! Because we were all the same then, but why are we so different now?
If, everyone who is discriminated against were to go on a strike, what would the “normal” people do.
The number of us who are discriminated against, would out number those who are not. Would there still be theater, music, fashion, poets, designers??? I think this place would be dark.
What I really want to know is, why do you take take take all we offer and yet give us nothing in return? We just want what rights we were born with. Is that too much to ask for?

By: Sadie

Sadie — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:26:48 +0000

I think unfortunately, there are some who evidentally voted for Obama without taking as an example, the strength of his principles- Obama was against prop 8, and for good reason, why take away someones right to love? As a straight black woman, I feel a great dissapointment that the 70% of black people who apparently voted for this, have not taken historical lessons of the importance of civil rights for all to heart, and voted to disenfranchise a minority group.
Religion is not an excuse- God gave us all brains and hearts so that we could use them. Shame to those who bovinely voted yes to proposition 8.

By: Richie

Richie — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:32:39 +0000

Prop 8 should be overturned by the courts due to the (what should be illegal) funding of the Yes on Prop 8 campaign with tax-free church funds, or the LDS should receive a tax bill for the $20 million they fueled into the proposition and lose their tax free status. LDS, in general, are a bunch of hatemongers who have a delusional idea of what God wants of them. Remember/note: LDS scripture once defended slavery. It is unfortunate that there truly is no separation of church and state, where in fact it is quite the opposite.

By: Bubba

Bubba — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:32:34 +0000

i am in total disbelief that we are living in 2008 and still fundamental human rights are being stripped away in this country. i can understand this happening in Iran or some other religiously militant country, but we are talking about the bastian of democracy and the free world. How this proposal even ended up on the ballot is besides me.
i would like to point out that there is a great web-site
http://www.californiansagainsthate.com/dishonorRoll2.html
this site points out who funded this hateful peice of legislation, these people are you neighbors, your doctors, lawyers your churches… i think that anyone who beieves in the constitutional right of our feeedoms should really take a look at this list and make sure that your money isn’t funneled through these messengers of hatred and bigotry.. i also think that a “peaceful approach” to letting them know you know who they are and what they did is not only within your rights but also a confrontation may be a perfect way to solve this great divide…