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	<title>Comments on: Will Bono, Clooney and Other Celebs Face Charity Controversy?</title>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/11/10/bono-clooney-charities-busted/comment-page-1/#comment-169690</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do celebrities need to set up their own charities? There are thousands of competent non-profits, especially in many of the countries where the work needs to be done, that are already able to make excellent use of the funds and the advocacy support celebrities have to offer. But then the celebrities would have to work within a larger community of &quot;ordinary&quot; people including an organization governing board and staff; they would not just get to run the show their own way - and with the big emphasis on them getting credit for the good deeds. There are probably many celebrities who give extensively to such charitable causes, without publicizing it widely; that keeps the focus on the needs and the solutions - not the celeb.  I have no reason to doubt that Bono, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Don Cheadle, George Clooney, and others do care about the causes they support. But the way they approach the effort leaves the impression that it is still driven by the self-centered values of their insular, elitist world of international fame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do celebrities need to set up their own charities? There are thousands of competent non-profits, especially in many of the countries where the work needs to be done, that are already able to make excellent use of the funds and the advocacy support celebrities have to offer. But then the celebrities would have to work within a larger community of &#8220;ordinary&#8221; people including an organization governing board and staff; they would not just get to run the show their own way &#8211; and with the big emphasis on them getting credit for the good deeds. There are probably many celebrities who give extensively to such charitable causes, without publicizing it widely; that keeps the focus on the needs and the solutions &#8211; not the celeb.  I have no reason to doubt that Bono, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Don Cheadle, George Clooney, and others do care about the causes they support. But the way they approach the effort leaves the impression that it is still driven by the self-centered values of their insular, elitist world of international fame.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bono is not a scientologist, he is a Christian, and he has saved thousands of African lives for what he had done.  He deserves praise, not controversy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bono is not a scientologist, he is a Christian, and he has saved thousands of African lives for what he had done.  He deserves praise, not controversy!</p>
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		<title>By: Iris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave Bono alone.  Atleast he does something with his celebrity, unlike many other celebs who do nothing.  The fact is that Bono has done more for Africa than any politican has.  I respect and admire him.  Save the dirt and gossip for the a-hole celebs who deserve it, like Britney Speas and Paris Hilton.  What the hell have they done to help humanity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave Bono alone.  Atleast he does something with his celebrity, unlike many other celebs who do nothing.  The fact is that Bono has done more for Africa than any politican has.  I respect and admire him.  Save the dirt and gossip for the a-hole celebs who deserve it, like Britney Speas and Paris Hilton.  What the hell have they done to help humanity?</p>
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		<title>By: yes</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/11/10/bono-clooney-charities-busted/comment-page-1/#comment-159440</link>
		<dc:creator>yes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry but i need to defend bono on this.   read what the post artice actually says, not the sensational spin.

it does NOT say that the rest of that money was spent on u2 tickets and security. it lists these expenses:
 $272,700 bill to charter a plane, a $117,838 tab for &quot;transportation and security&quot; and $8,740 for U2 tour tickets.

it does not list any of the other expenses it claims are &quot;outrageous&quot; but the ones listed above, are NOT outrageous. considering that one is an advocacy group, working to raise awareness, sorry i don&#039;t think spending money on press trips and security for the press while on trips in africa, is &quot;wasting&quot; money.


from the ny post article: 
&quot;Kathy McKiernan, a spokeswoman for Bono&#039;s organization, said the group chartered the 737 to fly journalists and others on a 10-day &quot;learning and awareness-raising trip&quot; to seven African countries in May 2006. DATA was reimbursed for the majority of the costs from the media, she said. &quot;Our policy is to take security and a camera crew to shoot video for use in our advocacy work with us on all Africa trips we do,&quot; she added. She said the concert tickets were distributed to DATA&#039;s supporters and elected representatives in Washington. McKiernan said the lawmakers were asked to reimburse the charity if the ticket price was more than $50, to comply with congressional ethics rules. Most of the $31 million raised was in grant form and will be paid over several years, with just $8 million coming in 2006, McKiernan said. Bono has never disclosed how much he gives to his own charity, but McKiernan said the rock star covers all of his own travel-related expenses.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry but i need to defend bono on this.   read what the post artice actually says, not the sensational spin.</p>
<p>it does NOT say that the rest of that money was spent on u2 tickets and security. it lists these expenses:<br />
 $272,700 bill to charter a plane, a $117,838 tab for &#8220;transportation and security&#8221; and $8,740 for U2 tour tickets.</p>
<p>it does not list any of the other expenses it claims are &#8220;outrageous&#8221; but the ones listed above, are NOT outrageous. considering that one is an advocacy group, working to raise awareness, sorry i don&#8217;t think spending money on press trips and security for the press while on trips in africa, is &#8220;wasting&#8221; money.</p>
<p>from the ny post article:<br />
&#8220;Kathy McKiernan, a spokeswoman for Bono&#8217;s organization, said the group chartered the 737 to fly journalists and others on a 10-day &#8220;learning and awareness-raising trip&#8221; to seven African countries in May 2006. DATA was reimbursed for the majority of the costs from the media, she said. &#8220;Our policy is to take security and a camera crew to shoot video for use in our advocacy work with us on all Africa trips we do,&#8221; she added. She said the concert tickets were distributed to DATA&#8217;s supporters and elected representatives in Washington. McKiernan said the lawmakers were asked to reimburse the charity if the ticket price was more than $50, to comply with congressional ethics rules. Most of the $31 million raised was in grant form and will be paid over several years, with just $8 million coming in 2006, McKiernan said. Bono has never disclosed how much he gives to his own charity, but McKiernan said the rock star covers all of his own travel-related expenses.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: fbr</title>
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		<dc:creator>fbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>6M out of 31M revenues would be equivalent to 20% profit margin for a business. There are companies that can do that while competing and providing goods or services in return. A charity that only manages to run 20% profit margin when people are just giving them the money are probably in the wrong business - if the goal is to do charitable work that is. 

Charity organizations necessarily run overheads which mean that all the money can&#039;t go to actual charitable work. However, when you have a charity that wastes $80 from every $100 donation you have to start to question their motives and competence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6M out of 31M revenues would be equivalent to 20% profit margin for a business. There are companies that can do that while competing and providing goods or services in return. A charity that only manages to run 20% profit margin when people are just giving them the money are probably in the wrong business &#8211; if the goal is to do charitable work that is. </p>
<p>Charity organizations necessarily run overheads which mean that all the money can&#8217;t go to actual charitable work. However, when you have a charity that wastes $80 from every $100 donation you have to start to question their motives and competence.</p>
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		<title>By: r6</title>
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		<dc:creator>r6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are responding to Scientolgy&#039;s fundraiser and you compare it to those of Bono ?

Bono is not accused of brainwashing of thousands of people. 

Bono does not promote unscientific medicine or faith healing that is common place in Scientology. Nor does he hide his agenda (unless you know something about him I don&#039;t) Scientology won&#039;t even allow their upper levels to be discussed by spokesmen of the church. 

Scientology encourages people to lie because regular everyday people (they call us wogs) wouldn&#039;t understand the &quot;great truths&quot; given to them by a hack sci-fi writter who used money from his &quot;religion&quot; to buy enough of his books to put him on the best seller list.

This goes much farther than accounting for the money for a fundraiser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are responding to Scientolgy&#8217;s fundraiser and you compare it to those of Bono ?</p>
<p>Bono is not accused of brainwashing of thousands of people. </p>
<p>Bono does not promote unscientific medicine or faith healing that is common place in Scientology. Nor does he hide his agenda (unless you know something about him I don&#8217;t) Scientology won&#8217;t even allow their upper levels to be discussed by spokesmen of the church. </p>
<p>Scientology encourages people to lie because regular everyday people (they call us wogs) wouldn&#8217;t understand the &#8220;great truths&#8221; given to them by a hack sci-fi writter who used money from his &#8220;religion&#8221; to buy enough of his books to put him on the best seller list.</p>
<p>This goes much farther than accounting for the money for a fundraiser.</p>
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		<title>By: chuka</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you haven&#039;t spent time sorting out budgets of nonprofits, that 6 million from 31 million can seem awkward.  However it takes money to raise money - I&#039;m sure U2 would&#039;ve done a tour anyway, but that six million likely would have lined other pockets instead of being earmarked for charity.  

Unless you can see in the budget what was spent on production and what was spent on programs and how many tickets were, say, given out to charities so those they serve could attend, what was in-kind and what was cash, you can&#039;t really jump to any conclusions.

And oh, you can&#039;t do that with any of Scientology&#039;s over 200 front-group &quot;charities&quot; because they hide behind a cloak of religion and aren&#039;t transparent about their financials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t spent time sorting out budgets of nonprofits, that 6 million from 31 million can seem awkward.  However it takes money to raise money &#8211; I&#8217;m sure U2 would&#8217;ve done a tour anyway, but that six million likely would have lined other pockets instead of being earmarked for charity.  </p>
<p>Unless you can see in the budget what was spent on production and what was spent on programs and how many tickets were, say, given out to charities so those they serve could attend, what was in-kind and what was cash, you can&#8217;t really jump to any conclusions.</p>
<p>And oh, you can&#8217;t do that with any of Scientology&#8217;s over 200 front-group &#8220;charities&#8221; because they hide behind a cloak of religion and aren&#8217;t transparent about their financials.</p>
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		<title>By: yes</title>
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		<dc:creator>yes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps give bono the benfit of the doubt - i think there is more to it than the ny post article states. he has smart people running his show.

one is a lobbying organization as far as i know - not technically a charity. and the majority of funding for one comes from wealthy benefactors such as the gates and buffets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps give bono the benfit of the doubt &#8211; i think there is more to it than the ny post article states. he has smart people running his show.</p>
<p>one is a lobbying organization as far as i know &#8211; not technically a charity. and the majority of funding for one comes from wealthy benefactors such as the gates and buffets.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the $80K Jenny Elfman raised won&#039;t go to Scientology&#039;s favorite charitable arms: funding bogus drug studies to get psychiatric drugs off the market, sending volunteers to African countries to bring back foreign workers they can underpay and mistreat, and hiring people to clean their cruise ship of the blue asbestos they say doesn&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the $80K Jenny Elfman raised won&#8217;t go to Scientology&#8217;s favorite charitable arms: funding bogus drug studies to get psychiatric drugs off the market, sending volunteers to African countries to bring back foreign workers they can underpay and mistreat, and hiring people to clean their cruise ship of the blue asbestos they say doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: VeggieTart</title>
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		<dc:creator>VeggieTart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s pretty bad when you raise $31 million, but only $6 million goes to charity.  That&#039;s a pretty deep shade of grey.  You want at least 80 to 85 percent of the monies raised doing charitable work, and using the power of your celebrity to get others to give a damn doesn&#039;t quite count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s pretty bad when you raise $31 million, but only $6 million goes to charity.  That&#8217;s a pretty deep shade of grey.  You want at least 80 to 85 percent of the monies raised doing charitable work, and using the power of your celebrity to get others to give a damn doesn&#8217;t quite count.</p>
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