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Did you know that:

almost 40% of the world’s grain supply is fed to livestock. in the u.s., MORE THAN 70% of the grain consumed is fed to animals.

70% folks….

We cut down the trees to grow the grain to feed to the animals whose waste run off goes into our streams and rivers (think water supply)

E

You failed to mention that in my post I also pointed out several ways that eating meat impacts the environment.

I figured you’d be well read since this was national news but here’s the link.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/07/food.foodanddrink

It’s also linked on the front of the NY Times, CNN, Yahoo, and even Fox News too

As soon as I reach the company that sold those hamburgers at an environmental awards ceremony (still makes me laugh at how preposterous that was) I will post with that info. But as of now I don’t know the details on the meat they sell. But as Science Commenter says – unless you shoot the meat yourself you’re impacting the environment in a negative way.

That has already been scientifically proven so I’m not going to continue to argue your same old rebuttals that have already been proven FALSE.

Unless one personally shoots their dinner with their own gun, eating meat does have a negative impact on the environment when you consider all the resources used to get it from whole animal to prepared meat at the grocery store or restaurant.

You write a lot but rarely manage to make a logical argument. Just read what you’ve written in this thread, they’re all assertions with no real arguments behind them. Like the oh so eloquent argument that only “fricking IDIOTS” think that animal rights and environmentalism are two separate issues.

It absolutely does not “go without saying” that eating meat is inherently not environmentally friendly. Some methods of meat production might be, but that doesn’t mean that every method of meat production is. Everything we do has a cost to the environment, if you think your vegan or vegetarian diet has no negative impact on the environment then you haven’t done your research. And if you’re going to cite some “UN” study by “scientists” you probably should, you know, cite it so that other people can know what you’re talking about.

Again? I think I defended and proved my points rather well in the past (remember you’ve argued this with me before) and I didn’t feel the need to do so again.

I’ve put a phone call into 8oz but alas, they aren’t open yet. So as soon as they are and I speak to them about their meat I will write a response (and perhaps a whole article online about the subject) but I think it goes without saying that it has been proven time and time again that eating meat is NOT environmentally friendly. Did you see the study put out by the UN Did you read what the scientists wrote? Are you saying they are wrong?

I didn’t think so.

E

…….right.

Eating meat is not sustainable. You don’t go to an eco event and say hey everybody I skipped the vegan food, ate two hamburgers (yum) and damn it they shouldn’t have used that paper! Doesn’t work that way. WAKE up.

I can be cynical but was trusting those “Mini burgers” were vegan and now realize why I remain a cynic in this hypocritical BS eco society with wanna be’s jumping on the bandwagon who do not practice what they preach (but hey they’ll play an eco friendly wanna be on TV for money!)

I am disappointed in them and in myself for thinking they were better.

Erin