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	<title>Comments on: Kristen Johnson Helps PETA Expose NYC&#8217;s Brutal Horse Drawn-Carriage Industry</title>
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		<title>By: DiAnne</title>
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		<dc:creator>DiAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes laws have changed anbd things are better.  In Savanna I saw retired standardbreds that were so thin you could hang a hat on their ilias and knees so abused from the stress of racing that were over at the knees. 

There are drivers that do love their horses and take care of them. I kepp horses and understand this.  But I also understand when I see horses that should have been retired a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes laws have changed anbd things are better.  In Savanna I saw retired standardbreds that were so thin you could hang a hat on their ilias and knees so abused from the stress of racing that were over at the knees. </p>
<p>There are drivers that do love their horses and take care of them. I kepp horses and understand this.  But I also understand when I see horses that should have been retired a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: DiAnne</title>
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		<dc:creator>DiAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She got your attention didn&#039;t she.  It is important to get the word out about how these slave  horses exist in the cities. Never seeing a pasture , never able to have a roll on the ground.  Sore legs from the pavement , and horrific heat and humidity in the summer and then winter.  New york City is not the only city where horses are keep in cramped dark stables and work 6 days a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She got your attention didn&#8217;t she.  It is important to get the word out about how these slave  horses exist in the cities. Never seeing a pasture , never able to have a roll on the ground.  Sore legs from the pavement , and horrific heat and humidity in the summer and then winter.  New york City is not the only city where horses are keep in cramped dark stables and work 6 days a week.</p>
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		<title>By: peeba76</title>
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		<dc:creator>peeba76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a fucking ASSHOLE. Never have I ever abused an animal in my life. Felix, youre a heroin addict. Tell them all about it........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a fucking ASSHOLE. Never have I ever abused an animal in my life. Felix, youre a heroin addict. Tell them all about it&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Fatboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fatboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peeba 76 is abigail from Clinton stables who abuses her horses and harasses people who expose the truth of the cruelty of NYC horse carriage industry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62aOP5eLigg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peeba 76 is abigail from Clinton stables who abuses her horses and harasses people who expose the truth of the cruelty of NYC horse carriage industry<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62aOP5eLigg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62aOP5eLigg</a></p>
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		<title>By: peeba76</title>
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		<dc:creator>peeba76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Kyle and Steph..
If you knew ONE thing about horses you wouldnt be sticking your feet in your mouth like this. Its pathetic. And to villify every person who works with and alongside animal partners is disgusting. Peta has done a great job brainwashing the simple minded and easily led. Doesnt matter...in the end people like you are of no consequence to me. I know the truth, the city council and mayor know the truth, and the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of tourists who take rides with us every year know the truth. How about doing a little research into what your talking about before opening your ignorant mouths? Ever been to a farm? Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Kyle and Steph..<br />
If you knew ONE thing about horses you wouldnt be sticking your feet in your mouth like this. Its pathetic. And to villify every person who works with and alongside animal partners is disgusting. Peta has done a great job brainwashing the simple minded and easily led. Doesnt matter&#8230;in the end people like you are of no consequence to me. I know the truth, the city council and mayor know the truth, and the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of tourists who take rides with us every year know the truth. How about doing a little research into what your talking about before opening your ignorant mouths? Ever been to a farm? Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both sides can &quot;prove&quot; everyhting they say.

I am not changing my stance that horses should not be on city streets, i don&#039;t care what blogs or selective videos i am show. The opposition can show blogs and videos of the complete opposite as well.

Horses do not belong on the streets. Horses DIE in accidents. That, to me, cannot be justified by tourism or greed.

These carriage rides are unnecessary and i cannot wait till the day they are banned. As a animal rights activist and a vegan, i do NOT believe in exploitation of animals. This practice puts animals in danger for the purpose of making money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both sides can &#8220;prove&#8221; everyhting they say.</p>
<p>I am not changing my stance that horses should not be on city streets, i don&#8217;t care what blogs or selective videos i am show. The opposition can show blogs and videos of the complete opposite as well.</p>
<p>Horses do not belong on the streets. Horses DIE in accidents. That, to me, cannot be justified by tourism or greed.</p>
<p>These carriage rides are unnecessary and i cannot wait till the day they are banned. As a animal rights activist and a vegan, i do NOT believe in exploitation of animals. This practice puts animals in danger for the purpose of making money.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I see people exploiting horses in the park I look at them in disgust.  These are disgusting people who run these operations.  Obviously, their only intention is to line their pockets with coins dredged up from the blood and sweat of the horses. Shame on you Maiza and Peeba.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I see people exploiting horses in the park I look at them in disgust.  These are disgusting people who run these operations.  Obviously, their only intention is to line their pockets with coins dredged up from the blood and sweat of the horses. Shame on you Maiza and Peeba.</p>
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		<title>By: peeba76</title>
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		<dc:creator>peeba76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the people who know nothing about our horses, how they live or how many regulations we have: We have NEVER been cited for cruelty in over 150 yrs. We have 5 stables, 2 of which are state of the art. All of our horses in nyc have box stalls. (which the mounted police horses dont even have)They get ferrier care, worming, and dental and vet care on a schedualed basis...which is all recorded for the city. We are overseen by 5 agencies (we have more regulations and oversight than at-risk children). We have temp restrictions, and hr work restrctions which are overseen by the aspca. We send our horses to vacations on farms 3-4 months out of each yr. When our horses are retired they are adopted out through one of 3 adoption programs we use. We are licensed 4 times over (carriage, driver, horse,and stable) We are fully insured. Our horses were trained specifically for this job... PETA is really good at lying to people. their intentions are evil. They want to do away with all human to animal relationships. ALL of them including pets. Its disgusting. Whats even more disgusting is that people like Kristen Johnston (who dont know anything about horses in the first place) are halping them! 
If you want the TRUTH you can see my videos on youtube of my horses on my farm and in their stable in nyc and at work. This is the TRUTH. I can prove everything I say....they cant! Please take a look before you believe everything they say. 

http://www.youtube.com/user/peeba76 

Now, just TRY and tell me my horses dont live in a nice stable in the city, a nice farm when on vacation and are happy and healthy. Just TRY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the people who know nothing about our horses, how they live or how many regulations we have: We have NEVER been cited for cruelty in over 150 yrs. We have 5 stables, 2 of which are state of the art. All of our horses in nyc have box stalls. (which the mounted police horses dont even have)They get ferrier care, worming, and dental and vet care on a schedualed basis&#8230;which is all recorded for the city. We are overseen by 5 agencies (we have more regulations and oversight than at-risk children). We have temp restrictions, and hr work restrctions which are overseen by the aspca. We send our horses to vacations on farms 3-4 months out of each yr. When our horses are retired they are adopted out through one of 3 adoption programs we use. We are licensed 4 times over (carriage, driver, horse,and stable) We are fully insured. Our horses were trained specifically for this job&#8230; PETA is really good at lying to people. their intentions are evil. They want to do away with all human to animal relationships. ALL of them including pets. Its disgusting. Whats even more disgusting is that people like Kristen Johnston (who dont know anything about horses in the first place) are halping them!<br />
If you want the TRUTH you can see my videos on youtube of my horses on my farm and in their stable in nyc and at work. This is the TRUTH. I can prove everything I say&#8230;.they cant! Please take a look before you believe everything they say. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/peeba76" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/peeba76</a> </p>
<p>Now, just TRY and tell me my horses dont live in a nice stable in the city, a nice farm when on vacation and are happy and healthy. Just TRY!</p>
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		<title>By: Maiza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maiza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Parrish and Steph:

Carriage horses on vacation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmzfnuKSuYo

Much more on our horses:

http://www.youtube.com/user/peeba76

The truth on one of their blogs:

http://thewhiffletreenyc.blogspot.com/

And for Parrish - I too, grew up around horses.  I have worked with horses my entire life.  NYC carriage horses have a great, content life.  I am up at the park 3X a week, know many of the drivers, and have been to the stables.

As far as Kristen Johnston goes...this says it perfectly:
&quot;
Another never-was celebutard heard from.
NYC carriage horses have more amenity-filled lives than many, many children in this city. This freak should be deeply ashamed of herself for investing time and money and effort &quot;helping&quot; a handful of horses that have shelter, food, vet care, farrier care, grooming, affection, vacations, and retirement. 
I should know - I have been in the business for 27 years. I got into the business BECAUSE of my love for horses, and the limited options to working with them in NYC. 
We have a wonderful little iconic, family-friendly business that not only makes people happy, but gives a few horses a place in this world at a time when thousands of horses acorss the country are being abandoned and/or sent to slaughter. The combination of high hay/oats prices and a devastated economy has created a crisis of epic proportions - don&#039;t take my word for it, Google it. 
Our horses are fit and content, doing what they were born and bred to do. Horses have worked in urban areas ever since there WERE urban areas, it works no hardship on them. 
People need to stop projecting their own feelings onto animals and hold off on the anthropomorphism if they are ever to see animals for who they are truly are. 
Not buying into hysterical propaganda helps, too.
Johnston would do better working in a soup kitchen, or maybe taking a tour of Bed-Stuy in the summer to see little kids sleeping on fire escapes because their apartments are too hot to sleep in. Or maybe she should hoof it over to the CACC and help some of the thousands of dogs and cats that are euthanized there every year. Lots of real issues out there, Kristen. Our horses don&#039;t need you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Parrish and Steph:</p>
<p>Carriage horses on vacation:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmzfnuKSuYo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmzfnuKSuYo</a></p>
<p>Much more on our horses:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/peeba76" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/peeba76</a></p>
<p>The truth on one of their blogs:</p>
<p><a href="http://thewhiffletreenyc.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thewhiffletreenyc.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>And for Parrish &#8211; I too, grew up around horses.  I have worked with horses my entire life.  NYC carriage horses have a great, content life.  I am up at the park 3X a week, know many of the drivers, and have been to the stables.</p>
<p>As far as Kristen Johnston goes&#8230;this says it perfectly:<br />
&#8221;<br />
Another never-was celebutard heard from.<br />
NYC carriage horses have more amenity-filled lives than many, many children in this city. This freak should be deeply ashamed of herself for investing time and money and effort &#8220;helping&#8221; a handful of horses that have shelter, food, vet care, farrier care, grooming, affection, vacations, and retirement.<br />
I should know &#8211; I have been in the business for 27 years. I got into the business BECAUSE of my love for horses, and the limited options to working with them in NYC.<br />
We have a wonderful little iconic, family-friendly business that not only makes people happy, but gives a few horses a place in this world at a time when thousands of horses acorss the country are being abandoned and/or sent to slaughter. The combination of high hay/oats prices and a devastated economy has created a crisis of epic proportions &#8211; don&#8217;t take my word for it, Google it.<br />
Our horses are fit and content, doing what they were born and bred to do. Horses have worked in urban areas ever since there WERE urban areas, it works no hardship on them.<br />
People need to stop projecting their own feelings onto animals and hold off on the anthropomorphism if they are ever to see animals for who they are truly are.<br />
Not buying into hysterical propaganda helps, too.<br />
Johnston would do better working in a soup kitchen, or maybe taking a tour of Bed-Stuy in the summer to see little kids sleeping on fire escapes because their apartments are too hot to sleep in. Or maybe she should hoof it over to the CACC and help some of the thousands of dogs and cats that are euthanized there every year. Lots of real issues out there, Kristen. Our horses don&#8217;t need you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: VeggieTart</title>
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		<dc:creator>VeggieTart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science Commentator, I so forgot that.  But it&#039;s only young, skinny women who must be naked.  The men can be clothed and any woman with a waist of more than 24 inches is hidden behind a placard.

Steph, you&#039;re probably right about the Lady Godiva thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science Commentator, I so forgot that.  But it&#8217;s only young, skinny women who must be naked.  The men can be clothed and any woman with a waist of more than 24 inches is hidden behind a placard.</p>
<p>Steph, you&#8217;re probably right about the Lady Godiva thing.</p>
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