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		<title>By: fbr</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/11/25/barry-bonds-brags-about-killing-buck/comment-page-1/#comment-166307</link>
		<dc:creator>fbr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, like other&#039;s have pointed out. Hunting certainly does not increase deer populations. In many northern countries hunting deer and moose to keep their populations low is not optional - if it is not done more people die in car crashes as a direct consequence. For me, the rights of humans always come before rights of other animals.

Also, last time I checked the majority of human population will eat meat if given a chance. That makes us, by definition, omnivores whether you like it or not. It&#039;s delusional to try to argue that humans are herbivores since primates are herbivores because: 1) many primates are omnivores, 2) taxonomy and diet are completely separate issues.

By the way, before you call me an &quot;ignorant redneck&quot;: I don&#039;t hunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, like other&#8217;s have pointed out. Hunting certainly does not increase deer populations. In many northern countries hunting deer and moose to keep their populations low is not optional &#8211; if it is not done more people die in car crashes as a direct consequence. For me, the rights of humans always come before rights of other animals.</p>
<p>Also, last time I checked the majority of human population will eat meat if given a chance. That makes us, by definition, omnivores whether you like it or not. It&#8217;s delusional to try to argue that humans are herbivores since primates are herbivores because: 1) many primates are omnivores, 2) taxonomy and diet are completely separate issues.</p>
<p>By the way, before you call me an &#8220;ignorant redneck&#8221;: I don&#8217;t hunt.</p>
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		<title>By: erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erik-
i admit i learned many new things in matt&#039;s post and did do some research - this elaborates on what he&#039;s saying

http://www.all-creatures.org/aip/nl-26mar2002-hunting.html

i HAVE lived in several areas with an &quot;overpopulation&quot; of deer (including - sadly enough - pennsylvania - right in the area they filmed &quot;deer hunter&quot;)  i&#039;ve never hunted deer or any animal and knock wood - never hit &amp; killed an animal in all my years of driving...

i will say though that what i believe is happened is this sick thing called (sub)urban sprawl that we have has encroached on these beautiful majestic animals&#039; land.  i bought a 54 year old house in the heart of the city so that i would not contribute to this sprawl (we even have a &quot;deer problem&quot; here in florida)

i think what we have is a HUMAN overpopulation problem... and sadly, in the US, the people feel the need to clear (wait clear is too nice of a word) they need to RIP down every last beautiful tree and live far far from the city or center of town.  tearing down countless forests to build their identical ugly poorly built new homes... yuck.

i&#039;m not religious but remember as a little girl being in catholic school and reading Genesis and seeing how they lived in HARMONY with the animals in the garden of Eden and ate only the fruits nuts veggies and seeds - all fresh (and organic of course ;-) and then Eve screwed up (blame it on the woman of course) got tempted by the snake , ate the fruit and suddenly we weren&#039;t friends with the animals and we killed them and ate them. 

i remember being horrified when i read this as a little girl. i knew in my heart at age 6 it wasn&#039;t meant to be that way. i refused to eat meat and knew i wanted to live in harmony with animals and live like they did in &quot;Eden&quot; and eat like the gorillas......

I think kids are more insightful than adults. Sadly the adults have been inundated by 1,000,000 commercials of McDonalds and the meat industry etc............

I feel healthier eating no meat.

Turkey free for &quot;Turkey day&quot;

sorry for the rant but it&#039;s late and i&#039;m tired!

E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erik-<br />
i admit i learned many new things in matt&#8217;s post and did do some research &#8211; this elaborates on what he&#8217;s saying</p>
<p><a href="http://www.all-creatures.org/aip/nl-26mar2002-hunting.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.all-creatures.org/aip/nl-26mar2002-hunting.html</a></p>
<p>i HAVE lived in several areas with an &#8220;overpopulation&#8221; of deer (including &#8211; sadly enough &#8211; pennsylvania &#8211; right in the area they filmed &#8220;deer hunter&#8221;)  i&#8217;ve never hunted deer or any animal and knock wood &#8211; never hit &amp; killed an animal in all my years of driving&#8230;</p>
<p>i will say though that what i believe is happened is this sick thing called (sub)urban sprawl that we have has encroached on these beautiful majestic animals&#8217; land.  i bought a 54 year old house in the heart of the city so that i would not contribute to this sprawl (we even have a &#8220;deer problem&#8221; here in florida)</p>
<p>i think what we have is a HUMAN overpopulation problem&#8230; and sadly, in the US, the people feel the need to clear (wait clear is too nice of a word) they need to RIP down every last beautiful tree and live far far from the city or center of town.  tearing down countless forests to build their identical ugly poorly built new homes&#8230; yuck.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not religious but remember as a little girl being in catholic school and reading Genesis and seeing how they lived in HARMONY with the animals in the garden of Eden and ate only the fruits nuts veggies and seeds &#8211; all fresh (and organic of course <img src='http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  and then Eve screwed up (blame it on the woman of course) got tempted by the snake , ate the fruit and suddenly we weren&#8217;t friends with the animals and we killed them and ate them. </p>
<p>i remember being horrified when i read this as a little girl. i knew in my heart at age 6 it wasn&#8217;t meant to be that way. i refused to eat meat and knew i wanted to live in harmony with animals and live like they did in &#8220;Eden&#8221; and eat like the gorillas&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I think kids are more insightful than adults. Sadly the adults have been inundated by 1,000,000 commercials of McDonalds and the meat industry etc&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I feel healthier eating no meat.</p>
<p>Turkey free for &#8220;Turkey day&#8221;</p>
<p>sorry for the rant but it&#8217;s late and i&#8217;m tired!</p>
<p>E</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt --

I don&#039;t think you&#039;ve lived in an area with a dear population problem. And I am all for the planet earth, but this is just a conspiracy theory gone off the deep end...

&quot;Hunting increases deer populations because so-called “wildlife management” agencies intentionally clear forests to make more grazing land for deer in order to increase their populations and increase revenues from sales of hunting permits.&quot;

Yes all that money just POURING in from...hunting permits? Give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt &#8211;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve lived in an area with a dear population problem. And I am all for the planet earth, but this is just a conspiracy theory gone off the deep end&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hunting increases deer populations because so-called “wildlife management” agencies intentionally clear forests to make more grazing land for deer in order to increase their populations and increase revenues from sales of hunting permits.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes all that money just POURING in from&#8230;hunting permits? Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steph

the link i posted a few threads ago (don&#039;t know how to look it up by name as it was a few days ago) had the exact link.. but i think this is the same manufacturer as i can&#039;t find the same site where i got them. they appear to be a little cheaper here. 

http://www.rawganique.com/footwear5.htm

but they don&#039;t have the ones with the really high heel.

will look for it ;)

Happy Tofu day
e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steph</p>
<p>the link i posted a few threads ago (don&#8217;t know how to look it up by name as it was a few days ago) had the exact link.. but i think this is the same manufacturer as i can&#8217;t find the same site where i got them. they appear to be a little cheaper here. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.rawganique.com/footwear5.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawganique.com/footwear5.htm</a></p>
<p>but they don&#8217;t have the ones with the really high heel.</p>
<p>will look for it <img src='http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Happy Tofu day<br />
e</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they weren&#039;t so bloodthirsty, those anti-animal, pro-killing comments would be rather amusing. Hunters are soooo stupid! 

From Jim: &quot;What about those poor innocent cows and chickens you guys eat? I do not see you complaining about that.&quot;

Have you ever heard of a vegetarian before? Did you even read any of the other posts on this site &quot;complaining&quot; about &quot;those poor innocent cows and chickens&quot;? Wait, can you even read? Or did you have someone else tell you about this blog? 

From Eric: &quot;I’d rather have Bonds taking it out quick and safely than it going through my kid sisters windshield on a late night going home.&quot;

Hate to break it to you but hunting actually increases deer populations and makes it more likely a deer (probably running for her life) will go through your kid sister&#039;s windshield. Hunting increases deer populations because so-called &quot;wildlife management&quot; agencies intentionally clear forests to make more grazing land for deer in order to increase their populations and increase revenues from sales of hunting permits. Hunters, who kill for fun and trophies, also tend to kill the big, strong animals instead of the weak and sickly animals, which weakens the herds and leads to disease and starvation. 

From Paul: &quot;Too bad we as people don’t live the way nature sees fit.&quot;

Yes, too bad. If people lived according to nature we would all be vegetarians like other primates. Instead we perpetuate this myth that we are carnivores like lions or tigers. Ha! What a joke. News flash - we are primates, like gorillas. You&#039;ve heard of those puny vegan gorillas before, right? 

I&#039;ve got a better idea for those benevolent hunters who kill deer in order to save them from overpopulation (actually habitat destruction caused by human overpopulation). It&#039;s called the hunter sterilization program. It will help curb human overpopulation and help preserve some of the deers&#039; natural habitats and it will also limit number of ignorant, redneck comments about how hunters are doing us all a favor. Gag!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they weren&#8217;t so bloodthirsty, those anti-animal, pro-killing comments would be rather amusing. Hunters are soooo stupid! </p>
<p>From Jim: &#8220;What about those poor innocent cows and chickens you guys eat? I do not see you complaining about that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you ever heard of a vegetarian before? Did you even read any of the other posts on this site &#8220;complaining&#8221; about &#8220;those poor innocent cows and chickens&#8221;? Wait, can you even read? Or did you have someone else tell you about this blog? </p>
<p>From Eric: &#8220;I’d rather have Bonds taking it out quick and safely than it going through my kid sisters windshield on a late night going home.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hate to break it to you but hunting actually increases deer populations and makes it more likely a deer (probably running for her life) will go through your kid sister&#8217;s windshield. Hunting increases deer populations because so-called &#8220;wildlife management&#8221; agencies intentionally clear forests to make more grazing land for deer in order to increase their populations and increase revenues from sales of hunting permits. Hunters, who kill for fun and trophies, also tend to kill the big, strong animals instead of the weak and sickly animals, which weakens the herds and leads to disease and starvation. </p>
<p>From Paul: &#8220;Too bad we as people don’t live the way nature sees fit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, too bad. If people lived according to nature we would all be vegetarians like other primates. Instead we perpetuate this myth that we are carnivores like lions or tigers. Ha! What a joke. News flash &#8211; we are primates, like gorillas. You&#8217;ve heard of those puny vegan gorillas before, right? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a better idea for those benevolent hunters who kill deer in order to save them from overpopulation (actually habitat destruction caused by human overpopulation). It&#8217;s called the hunter sterilization program. It will help curb human overpopulation and help preserve some of the deers&#8217; natural habitats and it will also limit number of ignorant, redneck comments about how hunters are doing us all a favor. Gag!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 06:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bambi&#039;s Mom? i think not. That buck that Bonds took is probably past his prime and not even breeding as younger stronger bucks have pushed him away. Too bad we as people don&#039;t live the way nature sees fit. I&#039;d have my pick of the best of babes and most of you male vegan runts would scrap for the leavings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bambi&#8217;s Mom? i think not. That buck that Bonds took is probably past his prime and not even breeding as younger stronger bucks have pushed him away. Too bad we as people don&#8217;t live the way nature sees fit. I&#8217;d have my pick of the best of babes and most of you male vegan runts would scrap for the leavings!</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 06:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was in Canada anywhere near Michigan, thank god. Its not a &quot;eco&quot; thing, its an over population thing. I&#039;d rather have Bonds taking it out quick and safely than it going through my kid sisters windshield on a late night going home. Human invasion into their territory has eliminated all natural predators. Its a good way to keep the population in check. Plus if he makes venison jerky then that&#039;s just out of this park! ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was in Canada anywhere near Michigan, thank god. Its not a &#8220;eco&#8221; thing, its an over population thing. I&#8217;d rather have Bonds taking it out quick and safely than it going through my kid sisters windshield on a late night going home. Human invasion into their territory has eliminated all natural predators. Its a good way to keep the population in check. Plus if he makes venison jerky then that&#8217;s just out of this park! ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a vegan myself, and yes, most everyone on this site is either vegan or vegetarian and pretty adamant about animals rights.

But i do agree that that poor buck is (or WAS) more steroid free then the one whole murdered him :&#039;(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a vegan myself, and yes, most everyone on this site is either vegan or vegetarian and pretty adamant about animals rights.</p>
<p>But i do agree that that poor buck is (or WAS) more steroid free then the one whole murdered him :&#8217;(</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Erin, got a link to those hemp heels? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Erin, got a link to those hemp heels? <img src='http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am a vegetarian.  I work my best not to be a hypocrite (do you know how difficult it was to find a hybrid without leather seats when i got one 2 yrs ago?) but I waited.

Some of my family might think I&#039;m a freak with my &#039;weird&#039; veggie organic diet and hemp clothing (you should check out these cool hemp heels I just found online) but finally they&#039;re starting to listen. ... Finally.  Whether they like the clothes I have or they want to lose a few pounds .. or give a crap about the animals...  Finally they&#039;re coming around.. I hope the rest of the world does too.

And yes, I think a cow or pig (smarter than a deer) has a lot worse life living her whole life in captivity than the deer who lived in freedom until he was killed.

So quit the cow the pig (and the chicken)  It&#039;s easier than you think ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am a vegetarian.  I work my best not to be a hypocrite (do you know how difficult it was to find a hybrid without leather seats when i got one 2 yrs ago?) but I waited.</p>
<p>Some of my family might think I&#8217;m a freak with my &#8216;weird&#8217; veggie organic diet and hemp clothing (you should check out these cool hemp heels I just found online) but finally they&#8217;re starting to listen. &#8230; Finally.  Whether they like the clothes I have or they want to lose a few pounds .. or give a crap about the animals&#8230;  Finally they&#8217;re coming around.. I hope the rest of the world does too.</p>
<p>And yes, I think a cow or pig (smarter than a deer) has a lot worse life living her whole life in captivity than the deer who lived in freedom until he was killed.</p>
<p>So quit the cow the pig (and the chicken)  It&#8217;s easier than you think <img src='http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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