Next year’s? Next month’s!

Cut Cinemark loose and move on.

There are many differnt opinions on this boycott issue and as in many civil rights debates, there are those who prefer a passive approach. Some are saying we (in the gay community) should show up to Sundance with our families and show how quaint and loving we are. I for one am sick of this passive approach. No more Mr. Nice Gay. The gay community has been passive for way too long and the time to fight is NOW.

I completely agree with David T. What is the point of boycotting a festival that is all about diversity because of an incidental connection that the festival’s founders and sponsors never endorsed? That is misguided and strident, and exactly the kind of move that alienates No on Prop 8′s natural allies like me.

It’s almost as bad as when No on Prop 8 protesters held signs deriding “rights for chickens.” Didn’t they know how many people who cared about animal welfare were the same people who cared about gay rights? What a great way to lose your base. I’ll still advocate to overturn Prop 8, but the No on 8 people haven’t done themselves any favors so far in my eyes. They need help in the PR department.

I agree with Skylar that the festival could very well have changed venues. How far in advance did it become clear that the Mormons were funding bigotry in California? And who says it has to be in Utah every year? Cut loose any business that has ties to the Mormon Church.

I feel sorriest for the filmmakers and everyone else involved with a movie that made it to Sundance, as they will pay for the Mormon Church’s funding of hate.

See, this is exactly the sort of tact that’s alienating a lot of people who may otherwise have supported the No on 8 cause. Boycotting the whole state rather than keeping your voice alive there– in a venue that supports you? Total ‘neener-neener’ behavior and counter-productive. Resentment is like drinking poison and waiting for the other guy to die. It just isn’t going to happen.

My family and I will try and make it to Sundance for the first time ever this year. It is absolutely beautiful in Utah and now that the Gay Community has decided to boycott I no longer have to worry so much about degenerates parading the streets and pedophiles trying to pick up on my 8 year old.

Haha, I’m sure the citizens of Utah would be more than happy if you never set foot in Utah again. Go ahead and punish Sundance and yourselves, as it it the representation of everything you support. Any ridiculous boycotts that you impose upon Utah will only harm the few extreme liberals that Mormon culture shuns.

Danny,

If you did a little simple research you would discover that pedophiles are not gay men but straight men. Therefore, pedophiles trying to pick up on your 8 year old are much like yourself, heterosexual men. A little education goes a long way.

Jack

I support boycotting businesses backed by blood money.

A few facts:

1) The blog states “Alan Stock – a Mormon who owns a number of Sundance venues”.

-Not true. Alan Stock is the CEO of Cinemark Cinemas, not the owner, it is a publicly traded company. Additionally, Cinemark is only one of many theaters and other venues used by the festival. If there were other venues available in the small ski town the festival would have moved to them.

2) People saying the festival should move.

-Just as many of you are blind and ridiculous with other statements, this is up there with them. The festival takes place in Utah because of the Sundance Institutes lab programs that go one at the Sundance Resort, an hour from Park City. These are the same labs that have helped produce Hedwig and the Angry Inch and The Laramie Project just to name a few. Do you have a few hundred acres in the wilderness where filmmakers, playwrights, and composers can improve their craft for free?

In addition to the labs which support gay, straight, and everything in between and above and below, the institute employs many people who possibly do not want to live in LA or NYC, but enjoy living in the Mountains in liberal cities like Park City and Salt Lake City (downtown SLC is a very liberal city).

3. Boycott Utah?

- Why not boycott California, they are the ones whom voted? Boycotting Cinemark or there companies who donated money makes a bit of sense, but boycotting a state, especially the liberal powers of a state, that is just silly and closed minded.

I will not be attending the Sundance festival and my family will not be supporting any Mormon businesses. Sucks to be hated. Deal with it. For the record, my family boycotts Evangelicals too. Different S**t, same smell.

Ty,

Your response you wrote to Danny was one of the best I’ve seen ever (good one from Jack and the rest of you too

I don’t get super fired up about gay rights but am always very supportive in any way I can be… but now when I see hate-monger homophobes like Danny (probably in the closet he is) I get more passionate about the movement. Hate like this cannot be tolerated. And why is it that the gay haters always seem to be the haters of other minorities as well as the animal abusers!? You rarely meet a prejudiced vegetarian you know?

E

I won’t be there. Nor will I be making an appointment with the bigoted dentist in Cupertino who donated $1000, nor the bigoted florist in San Jose who gave $100. I won’t be there. And you shouldn’t be eitehr.

Speaking of illiteracy, you may want to correct the title of this article.

Why all the hate?

I have a family with small children. My wife and I do not want them exposed to the degenerate activities that the Gay community insist on participating in where ever they congregate. Men wearing leather jock straps humping each other down the middle of main street is just not what I and MOST AMERICANs want our families to know about let alone see. So if the gay Community is so set on boycotting anywhere then that anywhere will be a much safer place for a family to be.

Ty, I am tolerant of others as long as they don’t try and force their views or actions on others. Like the Gay Community is trying to do at every opportunity. Being tolerant doesn’t mean I have to except without comment those things I know to be wrong and do not want my family exposed to. And don’t get your hopes up, my child is very male and already very enamored with girls.

Jack, You are absolutely WRONG. Most pedophiles are homosexual or in some circles called bi-sexual. And just look up your neighborhood for sexual offenders and you will see large clusters in the predominantly gay areas of town. Fact not fiction.

Jack,

No I don’t.

But what I do believe is that it is your business and none of mine or anyone else.

Don’t flaunt it and certainly don’t push it on others. Our biggest mistake in Iraq was dissolving the Iraqi Army rather than deploying them and then training them to protect their country’s borders. That mistake will be known as one of the biggest military blunders of all time. The Gay Communities attack on marriage was also a blunder of similar magnitude to their community and will go down as a defining event on turning the general public against them. do you think that their would have been so much resentment against the Gay Community if it had not been for the fact that they have been so blatant in their attacking of traditional family values and traditions?

Even their Disney Gay Days has backfired on them. Disney has lost far more money from people like me that do not take their families to events or facilities that cater to Gays than any additional money that approximately 1% of the population can possibly spend.

Danny, As a gay male …..though that seems to exist at gay parades, I believe men in leather humping each other down the street is pathetic and disgusting and I cringe at the thought of being “framed” that way in public. The “in your face” tactic is deplorable on that level. But equal rights is another story, and I believe it is the responsibility of everyone to know the sexual template of human sexuality, regardless of religious ignorant dictatorship. Taking children to a gay event like Disney I believe to be totally realistic for everyone. People’s children are only supported on sexuality if they are given all the facts. It doesn’t turn them gay, but it does make them gay friendly, to themselves and to others. You haven’t grown up in a society that makes you feel like an alien and a complete freak. But taking 5 minutes in our shoes could get you another perspective. The facts are bi gay and straights run this world and we all have to live together. I just hope you are not doing the head in sand approach, as the kids will call you on it later in life.

If any “one” or any “company” is making money in part of collectively from the efforts of the gay community…and they have attempted to remove the California Supreme Court granted “right” to marry..then every attempt should be made to avoid funding whatever business are a part of. It’s pretty simply. You can’t beat up the people that you expect to make money from and think it’s OK. What…are you crazy? Remember what happened to “Coors”? It works and it’s right. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. An eye for an eye..do unto others…….pick one. It’s pretty basic stuff.

I would find it very descriminatory for a person to boycott all of Massachusetts as a state for legalizing gay marriage or for one to not patronize a business when a gay person works there.

How is that any different from boycotting Utah or the Sundance Film Festival? Utah has a thriving and active gay community – do we want a boycott of all things Utah to hurt gay employees, business owners, and activits? Money from the Film Festival goes to many different places – the festival, employees, actors, directors, producers, venue ownerys, etc. Some to individual mormons, yes, but some to gays and gay friendly people.

The problem with this idea, as pointed out by Alicia, is that if we generalize “Utah” equals “hate filled mormons” then we not only descriminate against mormons who did not support Prop 8, but we also descriminate against all the other people who are not mormon, gay, or otherwise not associated to the church. Frankly, if you have even been to Salt Lake City you would know this already.

If someone intentionally does not choose my services/business based on the color of my skin, sexual orientation, accent, religion, etc. that is descrimination. But if you choose not to patronize my business or state based on someone elses skin color, sexual orientation, accent or religion, then you hurt me too!

Surely there are more effective and fair ways to make the point.

jared,
National gay organizations helped Colorado LGBT businesses during the 1990′s Colorado boycott, there is no reason we would be less generous to Utah LGBT businesses. I’ve been to Utah every summer (from before I remember until my 20s, and many trips in my adult years).
Half my family is Mormon, and even though my mother converted to my father’s faith when I was 4yo, she made sure we all knew our extended family in Utah. ALL my LDS family love and respect me as an openly gay man, this isn’t about individual Mormons, it’s their HATEFUL elders who need a CIVICS LESSON, like “MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS”, “LIVE and LET LIVE”, “DO UNTO OTHERS”…that radical stuff.

GLAAD and Outfest are spineless to not even discuss moving away from Sundance in Mormon controlled Utah.

I feel disgusted at this cowardice because a flack or stylist doesn’t want to lose his freelance gig, or an Indie filmmaker can’t get a press junket anywhere else.

Too bad. Utah and Sundance attendance funnels cash to their a hate group- the Mormon LDS church who are in a culture ware against gay civil rights.

Witeck-Combs Communications, a public relations firm in Washington that specializes in the gay and lesbian market, published a study this year that estimated that gay and lesbian consumers spend $700 billion annually.

GLAAD and Outfestshould get some integrity and bring their sponsor’s money and presence elsewhere — perhaps New Mexico or is that too hard to do? too much work? Shame on you.

Gaining Civil Rights is hard work. deal.

Oh and as far as my son goes “leave it alone”. Keep him out of your thoughts and off your wish lists.

Many of your natural inclinations in focusing in on my young son during this blog discussion is the very reason you are losing this battle and Families rightly fear and condemn your behavior and agenda.

In the article Mr. Aravosis said “If you go to Utah, you’re funding hate. Just moving movies around is not enough. Money from this festival is funneled directly to the Mormon Church and to a supporter of Proposition 8.”

The money “is funneled directly to the Mormon Church”? This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard and I’m sure that Robert Redford, the host of the event, is laughing at this statement as well.

If you boycott Utah just because the Mormon Church supported Proposition 8 then you better boycott Rome because the Catholic Church supported it as well. After all, “any money spent in Rome is funneled directly to the Catholic Church and to a supporter of Proposition 8”.

From my understanding, the support from the Mormon Church amounted to about 2% of the overall support. The Mormon Church has been singled out as the “fall guy” over this issue and it’s laughable to read the many irrational comments.

Danny making threats to an invisible poster on a blog, is so silly…cupcake.
Really think I give a rat’s a$$ what you think about what I post?

cuz if you do….you’re M_I_S_T_A_K_E_N

Danny,

22-40 million of the prop 8 support funds came from Mormons? This is such a wide range value that it doesn’t sound like it has any validity; a statement like this is usually the result of someone pulling a number from a hat to make their stance look good. If you can’t provide valid documentation for this statement then the rest of us can count it as you just blowing alot of hot air; my guess is that it is 22-40 million mph of hot air.