Comments on: Pamela Anderson Wants To Do A Veggie Bikini BBQ Show

By: VeggieTart

VeggieTart — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:54:22 +0000

Yes, Pam Anderson has a right to do with her body what she wishes. That doesn’t mean I have to like or support it. And Heidi is right–by turning herself into an object, not only does Anderson encourage people to see women as objects, she encourages women to allow themselves to be objectified. There’s a joke that the T and A in PETA stands for “tits and @$$”.

Surely we can get the message across that objectifying animals is wrong without objectifying women.

And what would be a green and vegan alternative to the “can of worms” cliche?

By: Heidi

Heidi — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:56:02 +0000

@hil. LOL, worms aren’t vegan and canning them isn’t green .

I feel the same way you do. It is inherently insulting for one woman to tell another woman she is objectifying herself with a conscious choice she is making as an adult citizen.

It is like telling someone they are making a fool of herself without her realizing it. It is condescending.

It may be correct, but it is still condescending.

By: hil

hil — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:33:05 +0000

@ Heidi…I can understand that perspective, I guess for me it falls under “your body your choice”. But I respect that not everyone feels the same as I do, and that the objectification of women in general sucks. I’m gonna stop talking/typing now before I open a HUGE can of worms.

By: Heidi

Heidi — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:05:46 +0000

@hil;

Yes. Feminists would say that such women are objectifying themselves and encouraging other people to see women that way.

By: hil

hil — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:22:43 +0000

Is it still objectification if she’s the one that wants to wear the bikini?

By: VeggieTart

VeggieTart — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:57:24 +0000

I don’t hear too many anti-vegans say we’re overweight. They usually think of us as scrawny, pale, and undernourished.

And I have severe issues with the objectification factor. Why does it have to be a bikini? Why not shorts and a T-shirt? And the idea of Morrissey in a speedo is utterly scary. But it would be nice to see handsome male vegan celebs doing some cooking–preferably fully clothed.

By: Heidi

Heidi — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:54:40 +0000

Putting the issue of objectification of women aside( which we shouldn’t ) this could be an okay thing.

Too many people think of vegans as scraggly, unhealthy, crunchy, unattractive, or overweight.

It might help to have an attractive woman being a regular TV character.