Hahahaha! If the CCF hates it, that means I support it.

s.

Dear “Whose Looking to Profit”

You need to go back to grade school. HSUS is a NON PROFIT. Doh! They don’t PROFIT at all.

What are you? one of consumer freedom F&*CK’s mouthpieces?

There aren’t many organizations I can’t stand more than consumer freedom foundation of losers (except maybe the KKK_ they are the only ones worse than CFF in MY book)

Erin

Please don’t get me wrong – I’m all for second and third chances!

However, I doubt this person will ever be truly sorry for what he did.
I may be completely wrong and I do hope I am…

But I’ll only believe he’s being honest (and not desperately trying to clean his image) when he starts going to schools and to places where everyone knows dogfighting takes place to talk about his experience and to tell everyone who wants to listen that abusing animals is plain wrong!!

Oh and although most of organizations like HSUS are non-profit (or so they claim), please don’t be fooled by this! No one is 100% honest. They make a living out of activism and even though I believe a small minority of NGOs are in fact doing everything in their power to change things, the sad reality is that the majority have as their main goal making as much money as possible.
I don’t deny they do a lot of good work (much more than I will ever do) but then again they must show results in order to get as many supporters as possible, right?

I’m saying this mainly because several months ago I sent an email to tens of Animal Rights and Environmental NGOs all over the world asking and urging them to put their differences aside and join efforts to create one global organization to fight for AR and the environment. These NGOs included PETA, ALF, Greenpeace, Sea Shepherd, WWF, Ocean Conservancy, etc, and HSUS! (I’ve already mentioned this here at Ecorazzi).
Guess how many of them replied to me? TWO and they were none of the above – and they told me they were not interested.
In the email I sent I also included a list with the email and site addresses of all the organizations I had sent my email to. Nothing happened!!

Curiously, a few days afterwards I started receiving from a few of those tens of NGOs their newsletters and also emails asking for donations!

So no one can convince me that NGOs that together have tens of millions of members worldwide couldn’t, if not create one global organization, at least work closely with each other in order to truly change things and a lot faster than they do separately. I mean, take a look at companies in trouble – what do they do? They merge so that they can get stronger and more powerful! If it works for them why wouldn’t it for NGOs?

Can you imagine for instance if 10 million people would send a personal email to all the fashion designers who still use fur demanding them not to use fur in their clothes any more, otherwise they would boycott them? Can you imagine the impact that could have? Now that would really make the difference!! And it wouldn’t cost thousands of dollars in campaigns!!

Not everything that shines is gold!!

Whoever- I think you have an excellent point! It is staggering how many similar organizations there are out there. It would seem that working together would have a much stronger impact…I think that the organizations are getting in their own way by not joining forces. I wonder what it is that keeps them from wanting to collaborate? I assume it is because of the time they spent forging an identity that they don’t want to lose…but then that’s not really fighting for the cause but fighting for an image isn’t it? Hmmm…

I think it’s great that HSUS is partnering with Michael Vick. While unfortunately he may only be doing this to be able to play in the NFL again, he has the potential to influence thousands of young men. Those that either may already be involved in dog fighting, or those in areas where they are likely to be around it in some way. So if HSUS and Vick can make a positive difference in these people’s lives, I’m all for it. And hopefully Vick actually has learned his lesson and feels some remorse for the terrible things he did.

And as for the CCF, I don’t know why anyone would want to listen to them. They obviously don’t care about whats best for consumers, since they are just a front for alcohol and tobacco. They even oppose Mothers Against Drunk Drivers. Way to go guys.

Justice for those killed dogs didn’t end with some fines and 23 months in jail or whatever it was. They aren’t coming back, that is something he can’t make right in his lifetime.
Does he have ulterior motives,– of course! Can he do good things for dogs now, — yeah!

But that doesn’t clear him of anything in my book.

Vick and his ilk are not and never will be worthy of public redemption.

These so-called ‘men’ did not humanely euthanize dogs that did not make the cut for their heinous operation. We all remember the reports of Vick personally hanging dogs by their necks, slamming their skulls into the concrete until they convulsed and died and throwing family pets into the pit to train his fighters to kill. But what about this report, taken from a blog post by Donna, co-founder of BADRAP (www.badrap.org)?

“Jumper cables were clipped onto the ears of underperforming dogs, then, just like with a car, the cables were connected to the terminals of car batteries before lifting and tossing the shamed dogs into the water. Most of Vick’s dogs were small – 40lbs or so – so tossing them in would’ve been fast and easy work for thick athlete arms. We don’t know how many suffered this premeditated murder, but the damage to the pool walls tells a story. It seems that while they were scrambling to escape, they scratched and clawed at the pool liner and bit at the dented aluminum sides like a hungry dog on a tin can.”

They actually sat around and thought up indescribably cruel methods of torture and agonizing death for their own pleasure and entertainment. Who watches while another living thing screams, bleeds, shatters, and slowly dies under his own hand? I’ll tell you who- Vlad the Impaler, Josef Mengele, Saddam Hussein… people whom have been granted the title, “monster” by humanity and will forever be hated and reviled. Let us not forget this as we struggle with ‘forgiveness’ of Vick and his cronies who clipped jumper cables to dogs’ ears and slammed their broken bodies into the concrete.

Is it possible that Vick was just disadvantaged and didn’t know any better and he’s “all better now”? I don’t believe it! What about the thousands of disadvantaged youth who see dogfighting and DON’T get involved because they are driven by an internal compass that tells them torturing and killing is wrong? I don’t think evil can be expunged from someone so twisted at their core that they could count their money and cheer as they watched their ‘best dogs’ rip the flesh from each others’ bones and condemn the rest to violent and agonizing deaths at their own hands.

Vick may have served his time for racketeering, but he plead “Not guilty.” for the charges of animal cruelty. His so-called ‘remorse’ for his actions after the fact were well-rehearsed, as evidenced by a scrap of paper left behind at the podium where he sang his sorry song. This whole collaborative effort with the HSUS was not his idea- it was a clever PR move staged by his agents and handlers to help buy him public sympathy and help make him appear more deserving of re-instatement to the NFL- his real motive behind all this.

Has he ever once asked after his former dogs, the ones who survived his prison camp and training center and are being cared for people with real compassion and altruism? Did he ever once make a statement during his incarceration indicating true understanding of the crimes of morality he committed against those innocent creatures under his care?
Is he a “powerful and persuasive” entity who can sway at-risk youth and thousands of rabid football fans to buy into his latest rhetoric? Sure. Most sociopaths are disarmingly convincing when they want something; it’s part of the clinical definition. As a nurse, I used to work with severely disturbed youth in a psychiatric institution, many of whom had tortured and killed animals. I remember looking into the dull and soulless eyes of one boy who had gouged the eyes out of every one of a litter of kittens and he described how they squished and popped like little grapes between his fingers. When I asked him why he did that, he said he simply LIKED watching the blinded kittens stagger about in pain and terror, crying out for their mother. That’s when I knew evil existed for its own sake.

Picking up Vick is like making a deal with the devil. He’ll be a messenger alright, but the message will be, “Orchestrating and personally conducting the maiming and killing of countless dogs for pleasure and profit while lying, bold-faced, about it for six years is OK, as long as you convince enough saps you’re a victim of your past and were too weak to make moral decisions on your own. Oh, and it helps if you have a good PR machine and lots of photo ops with the doggie crusaders.”

So long, HSUS- I won’t be donating any of my hard earned money to an organization that will be spending it on Vick’s image rehabilitation.

“Since compassion for animals is so intimately associated with goodness of character, it may be confidently asserted that whoever is cruel to animals cannot be a good man.” ~
Arthur Schopenhauer, The Basis of Morality

Check out what Nathan Winograd has to say about the whole debacle of the HSUS and Wayne Pacelle – http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=1174 I just wish Michael Vick would fade away and Wayne Pacelle is making it really hard to happen.

I think its a good thing you guys are doing. I would be willing to support the HSUS.

The HSUS seen the USDA report where Vick admitted to throwing in family pets into dog fighting rings because he thought it was funny. That means their were fully conscience when they got ripped to shreds, disemboweled, extremities ripped out of their sockets – a helpless creature screaming in agony because he thought it was fun. This is the TRUE face of Vick: A sadist, who did dog fighting when he was already a multi-millionaire. It was not for the money: It was for the PLEASURE. His dog fighting was going on for years. I now realize what kind of organization HSUS is. It will be a cold day in Hades that I ever donate a red cent to them ever again. Now when PETA seen the USDA report back in November 2008, they dropped Vick like a hot potato. That’s not the case with HSUS.

It’s sickens me that the HSUS may have helped Vick get his old NFL job back. Now America will cheer a dog fighter and be the role model for America’s young. With a poor economy, and purses of $50,000 per fight – If you think dog fighting is bad now-you have not seen anything yet when Vick struts his stuff on the field.

I truly have my eyes wide open. HSUS is all about money-NOT about helping animals. I urge people to stop donating to them – instead donate to your LOCAL SHELTER.

PS-the Humane Society of the United States has NO AFFILIATION with local shelters in any manner, shape or form. What you donate to HSUS will *NOT* go to your local Humane Society shelter.

To reiterate what has been said above, the HSUS does NOT run any shelters or adoption centers.

The HSUS is NOT the Humane Society where you take your children to adopt a pet.

If you donate money to the HSUS, it does NOT go towards helping any abused or homeless animals. However, it may go towards funding some of ALF’s terrorist activities.

Wayne Pacelle, President of HSUS, would rather see cats and dogs put to sleep than in people’s homes as pets.

Wayne Pacelle ran a funding campaign to raise millions that would supposedly go towards helping Vick’s dogs. Two weeks later, he makes a statement that all the dogs should be euthanized. He can’t keep his own stories straight.

I read that HSUS just accepted $50K from the Philly Eagles. Blood money! I encourage all to stop their contributions to HSUS and instead give to your local nonprofit animal shelter that does not receive funding from HSUS.