I don’t want to poo-poo her for doing good things, but it seems a little foolish for her to say she is unhappy about the waste she produces as she finishes a plastic bottle of water. I’m sure she can affor to buy a reusable container for her water, which is one very simple way we can all help the environment.

I sure wish that people would quit saying that the Martians and Muppets need to be part of the solution. The Martians and Muppets are simply trying achieve the standard of living that we have enjoyed for years. They didn’t create the pollution we have now, we should stop blaming them.

If Ms Diaz had a brain she would realise that being Green means to ignore scientific facts and accept media hyped falsehoods. Polar Ice Caps are not melting, other than seasonal variations. Remember that the Vikings colonized Greenland and grew crops for 400 years. Chinese War Junks circumnavigated the North West Passage in the 14th Century. No SUV or fossil fuels around then. Adapt to climate variation as happened in the past. Politico/scientific gobbledegook is going to cost billions with no perceptible gain. 3rd World countries will lose the most. Sea levels are not rising above the rate begun after the last Ice Age!

Get real Cameron and see the wood for the trees. CO2 is Not a poison or a polluter. Without it we would die.

I also think people are being a little harsh. With all the people mindlessly taking their private jets around and ignoring the environment, she’s actually doing something about the problems. She’s not perfect. Neither am I. But the fact that she’s out there promoting a more environmentally friendly way of life is something to be commended. Not poo pooed.

LOLOLOLOL!
Whoever… says
Complains that Brian ignores science then makes the following dumb ignorant statement.
“put a tube in the exhaustion pipe connecting it to the inside of your car”

Hello; High school science a little beyond you?

It is Carbon MONoxide that kills not Carbon Dioxide.
CO2 is harmless plant food and we have barely enough to sustain a meagre life cycle now. We would all be better off with about three time the current level.

@ Gary & Brian-

I don’t understand why you two come on a site like this…is the Rush Limbaugh site down today or something?

@Lola – I was more talking to Stephanie…

@ Gary:

‘Mea culpa’

You’re absolutely right! I do apologize for my gross mistake. I am ashamed of it… It really was an ignorant remark of me. I don’t know how I got confused.

Have you never made a mistake before? How great it must be to be you – so perfect, knowing everything, never making mistakes and possessing the ultimate truth… just like Brian!!

Contrary to people like you, we Greenies (as you referred to us in an ironic and insulting way) are humble enough to recognize when we’re wrong!!

It’s in fact carbon monoxide (CO) that would kill Brian in that case… and not carbon dioxide (CO2).

CO binds very strongly to the iron in the hemoglobin in the blood. Once carbon monoxide attaches, it is very difficult to release. So if you breathe in carbon monoxide, it sticks to your hemoglobin and takes up all of the oxygen binding sites. Your blood loses all of its ability to transport oxygen, and you suffocate.

But in case you don’t know, our body also produces CO as part of our normal metabolism. Among other things, it provides cardiac protection in the circulatory system. You see, as everything else, when the levels of a substance are in perfect balance they are harmless.

That’s what’s happening with the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
The natural balance has been broken. “we have barely enough to sustain a meagre life cycle now” – that’s not true!

From my ‘huge ignorance’ and the little research I did (I don’t have that much time), allow me to correct you:

- Carbon dioxide CO2 is present in the atmosphere today at 385 (more or less) parts per million (by volume) or 0.039%. 50 years ago it was 280 parts per million. The increase is caused mostly by people burning things, especially fuels – coal, oil and natural gas. Burning wood also releases CO2 to the atmosphere;
- CO2 is not a pollutant but it’s also not harmless;
- Because carbon dioxide displaces oxygen, it is a health risk since we need oxygen to live. CO2 is an asphyxiant.
- Regarding concentrations of CO2 in air, amounts above 5,000 ppm are considered very unhealthy, and those above about 50,000 ppm (equal to 5% by volume) are considered dangerous to animal life. At levels above 5%, the concentration of CO2 is directly toxic.

“Sorry for foolishly thinking tree huggers could have measurable IQs.” – How ‘big of you’ to be so respectful (not!) of people who only want to protect our planet and all the creatures who inhabit it!
You know, truly intelligent evolved people respect others and don’t insult them just because they’re trying their best to be better people – something that you, with all your knowledge, are not very familiarized with!

Nevertheless I would like to thank you for pointing out my mistake and make me do some research and thus educate myself a little more. You could have done it in a respectful way, but apparently you think you are superior to anyone who is different from you!

At least this made me realize I evolved a little bit during these past months – a few months ago your comment would have upset me a lot. But now it actually doesn’t! Everyone makes mistakes (except you and Brian of course!) and I for one know I’m far from being perfect or an expert in this matter!

Please feel free to correct me again if you think I made more mistakes…!

Whoever;
Wow … I am impressed.
Articulate, and mostly accurate.
And quite insulting as well.
I think I like You.
Bravo for doing some research. (MANY people mix up CO2 and CO BTW)
Keep going with that, you will find it fascinating. Particularly when you look at crop yield increases and CO2 levels. Did you know that 1000 to 1500 ppm are best for crops?
Did you know that 280 ppm is just about the lowest level in history.
And did you know that there is no proof that the current rise is caused mostly by mankind? That is just speculation.
And there is no danger that .038% CO2 will displace the 21% of oxygen. (of .05% or .15% for that matter)
As for being insulting and rude, I learned that from Al Gore. Like he said You need to exaggerate and intimidate to get people to notice. Worked for him.
You know what burns me most about this AGW scam?
When it is over (soon) Environmentalism will take decades to recover to any useful level of credibility.
There are so many really good causes that need people like you and nobody will listen because they will remember the Global Warming Scam.
Too bad.

LolaK – You could learn a lot from Whoever. Start learning about what you are preeching and one day you will be respectfully listened to.

Oh and just BTW – Diaz is an airhead.

LolaK;
Nope!
I am happy just that sombody is willing to go looking for knowledge.
Open minded research will lead to truth any which way you figure it.

What I believe is not relevent or important.

The fact that I had some small part in getting someone to look, IS.

Picking Fights? Not me. If you look back up the thread, you will see the instigator was you:
“@ Brian Johnson I feel so sorry for you and your ignorance,”

Anyway I just find it amusing to poke sticks and fundamentalists of any kind.

Don’t tell anyone but I am an environmental advocate myself. I just happen to believe in real science as opposed to AGW junk science.

Have a great weekend LolaK.

LolaK;
Good rebuttal! Doing some research are we?
Good for you. Keep going.
I will be as brief as I can.
1.“in just 50 years it increased to approximately 380 ppm”
Agreed. It may be all caused by humans. It may not. The human contribution is so small it may turn out to be statistically insignificant.
The carbon cycle is not as well understood as once thought.
http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/new-jelly-pump-rewrites-carbon-cycle
2. The concept of “my truth” belongs to religion not science. There is one truth. You may or may not believe it. It depends on you understanding.
3. “that global warming isn’t real”
Never claimed GW is not real. The question is not “did it happen” but rather what caused it. Big difference. My view is similar to the emerging scientific consensus that is was nearly all natural and BTW stopped 7 years ago. Look it up.
See Maunder minimum then lookup current solar cycle activity. Then review ENSO, PDO and AMO ocean cycles and compare. It should scare you. Cold is MUCH worse than warm.
4. 20% of Denmark’s energy ‘comes from wind’
Denmark is lucky to be small and where they are. Look up what it will take to generate even 10% of North America’s Power with Wind. Note that wind generation produces less that 20% of rated output so it takes 5 times the capacity. Solar MIGHT be a better choice.
5. Why should we remain stuck in fossil fuels?
We should not. However the transition will happen no matter what as the resource runs low, we don’t need to cause global economic hardship to force it out now based on a false premis.
5. Environmentalism.
There are so many REAL problems that need resolution. After years of alarmism from Gore, Suzuki,…… people will lose patients with the constant cries of impending doom and simply switch off. I am already sick of the term Green.
I’m an environmentalist and I don’t belong to any group – I’m NOT a vegetarian, I DO reduce, reuse, recycle, don’t waste water or electricity because it cost money. I walk as much as I feel like will never use public transportation, use as much environmental friendly products as I can, etc.
I short I do what I believe will have positive effects. I don’t pay attention to CO2 cutting measures because they are not relevant to anything.
6. “Diaz is an airhead” –
That was just for fun. I don’t know her, she may be normal.
But she is a celebrity from Hollywood…. Well most of them seem pretty air headed.
So anyway, LolaK; you have (unwittingly???) provided the debate my initial stick poking comments were designed to generate.
I hope you enjoyed it as much as I and I hope you will continue to research this topic. I am convinced that understanding will soften your fears of impending doom.
Try not to get too angry as you discover the underlying agenda. It can be infuriating to realize how we have been manipulated.
Take a valium, then review some of these quotes from famous Global Warming activists:
http://www.green-agenda.com/

Stop bashing Cameron. I dislike people who just can’t keep their mouth shut when they should. GROW UP.