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	<title>Comments on: Audrina Patridge: Confused About Where Meat Comes From</title>
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		<title>By: veganerd</title>
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		<dc:creator>veganerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, she is a disgusting hypocrite for this after doing a PETA.org animal adoption ad. She only has a concern for her bankroll which she might perceive as her actual worth with as depressingly misogynistic and shallow as the modeling cult is. 

Additionally, the screams from the agonizing cow who provided that cheap, subsidized burger aren’t fully represented in this sex-driven message which says “speciesist murder is sexy &amp; healthy” (maybe healthy for Carl’s Junior’s profits). 

The reality of meat is that the world is being deforested, and many species going extinct, to provide the least healthful meals for the growing human population. Most obviously culpable are over-consumptive, parasitically privileged cultures of the &quot;first world&quot;, typified with direct exploitation of the people and environment of the &quot;third world&quot;. Consider that a cow has been brutally slaughtered for it. How is that appetizing, it&#039;s heinously cruel. Their pain comes back around, it won’t be forgotten!
The corporate media channels exist to program us into drone consumers and generate more profits for fat cats who guiltily lounge in the exorbitant spoils of selfish oppression at other animals&#039; and other human beings&#039; expense. Please understand that &quot;meat means animal abuse&quot;.
Going vegan is as easy as eating salad and being concerned for the wellness of each sentient being. Don&#039;t sleepwalk through your lifetime, wake up and smell the roses! Ethically, there are no excuses for continuing the devastation of our environment and innate suffering involved in exploiting animals for &quot;food&quot; or any other purpose to us. See veganthis.org or nutritionmd.org or rawveg.info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, she is a disgusting hypocrite for this after doing a PETA.org animal adoption ad. She only has a concern for her bankroll which she might perceive as her actual worth with as depressingly misogynistic and shallow as the modeling cult is. </p>
<p>Additionally, the screams from the agonizing cow who provided that cheap, subsidized burger aren’t fully represented in this sex-driven message which says “speciesist murder is sexy &amp; healthy” (maybe healthy for Carl’s Junior’s profits). </p>
<p>The reality of meat is that the world is being deforested, and many species going extinct, to provide the least healthful meals for the growing human population. Most obviously culpable are over-consumptive, parasitically privileged cultures of the &#8220;first world&#8221;, typified with direct exploitation of the people and environment of the &#8220;third world&#8221;. Consider that a cow has been brutally slaughtered for it. How is that appetizing, it&#8217;s heinously cruel. Their pain comes back around, it won’t be forgotten!<br />
The corporate media channels exist to program us into drone consumers and generate more profits for fat cats who guiltily lounge in the exorbitant spoils of selfish oppression at other animals&#8217; and other human beings&#8217; expense. Please understand that &#8220;meat means animal abuse&#8221;.<br />
Going vegan is as easy as eating salad and being concerned for the wellness of each sentient being. Don&#8217;t sleepwalk through your lifetime, wake up and smell the roses! Ethically, there are no excuses for continuing the devastation of our environment and innate suffering involved in exploiting animals for &#8220;food&#8221; or any other purpose to us. See veganthis.org or nutritionmd.org or rawveg.info</p>
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		<title>By: RemyC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RemyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that a puppy meat burger?</description>
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		<title>By: Rocco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh goodness....she is no more brainless that anyone who would call themselves a vegan/vegetarian. Getting upset over H&#039;Wood&#039;s hypocrisy is a damn waste of time. When will you understand those nitwits will say or do anything that will make them money. I&#039;m sure most people reading this crap are all for killing human babies but against eating burgers. When you start calling what is wrong right and what is right wrong is when you know your society is coming to an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh goodness&#8230;.she is no more brainless that anyone who would call themselves a vegan/vegetarian. Getting upset over H&#8217;Wood&#8217;s hypocrisy is a damn waste of time. When will you understand those nitwits will say or do anything that will make them money. I&#8217;m sure most people reading this crap are all for killing human babies but against eating burgers. When you start calling what is wrong right and what is right wrong is when you know your society is coming to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: NattyBumppo</title>
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		<dc:creator>NattyBumppo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Whoever...: I was so moved by your rhetoric, I very nearly unable to finish my filet mignon wrapped in a savory strip of bacon. I consoled myself by purchasing a brand-new leather jacket for me, and a new and VERY RARE splendid fawn light fox coat for my wife. Afterwards, we took a walk over to the Pike Place Fish Market and watched the fishmongers throw fish. Fortunately, that relaxed me enough that I was able to sleep like a baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Whoever&#8230;: I was so moved by your rhetoric, I very nearly unable to finish my filet mignon wrapped in a savory strip of bacon. I consoled myself by purchasing a brand-new leather jacket for me, and a new and VERY RARE splendid fawn light fox coat for my wife. Afterwards, we took a walk over to the Pike Place Fish Market and watched the fishmongers throw fish. Fortunately, that relaxed me enough that I was able to sleep like a baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Whoever...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whoever...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;AR activists get bad reps because of these kind of extremist mentalities (ex: Nazi comparison)… &quot;

&quot;we must draw attention to these issues but calling people “nazis” or “hypocrites” isnt “drawing attention”, its merely ventilating ones anger and frustration in a slight histerical way&quot;

Well, if you say I&#039;m being extremist by comparing what the nazis did to millions of people with what we do to animals, then that&#039;s because you think humans are superior to animals. That&#039;s why it shocks you! Therefore you believe we shouldn&#039;t compare animals with humans... Why? How different is that from people who believe that the purpose of animals is to serve all our needs!? They wouldn&#039;t even think about doing to humans what they do to animals would they? Of course not, because they see them as &#039;equals&#039;. See where I&#039;m getting at? That&#039;s the point I wanted to make. Humans do all these horrible things to animals because they see them as an inferior species. That&#039;s what the nazis thought of Jewish people, gay people, gypsies and people with disabilities... that they were inferior!

Do you understand now?

And do you want to know what&#039;s really extremist?
I&#039;ll tell you...
I volunteer at my local shelter, doing a little bit of everything. 
I went there yesterday and do you know what the person responsible for the shelter showed me?
They have surveillance cameras 24/7 and last Thursday they captured a man arriving in his car... it was 7:30 a.m., no one was there; he parked the car near the entrance door, got out of the car, didn&#039;t ring the bell (because as the coward he is, he knew no one was there and thus could get away with what he was about to do), opened the trunk of his car and grabbing 5 or 6 dogs, one by one as if they were bags of trash, pulled them out and threw them to the floor...!
Then he drove off running over one of the dogs!!! The people who work at the shelter found all of the animals except the one WHO was run over - (S)HE probably died in agony in the woods (the shelter is on the outskirts of the city, near the woods).

It&#039;s all very nice and cosy to write on our computer keyboard (away from the &#039;reality&#039;) saying we shouldn&#039;t point fingers or call people hypocrites, but when we&#039;re in the field and see things like the one I mentioned above (which are terrifyingly common), it&#039;s hard not to get emotional, angry and &#039;extremist&#039;!!! So please don&#039;t come here and lecture me okay!?

Going back to the coward &#039;who&#039; did this, the problem is that the law in my country (as in many others) regards animals as, literally, &#039;things&#039;. As far as the law is concerned, that man didn&#039;t commit any crime! A person is only guilty of such a crime if (s)he hurts or kills an animal who has an owner. In that case it&#039;s considered as an attempt to damage private property. Animals are considered their owner&#039;s property! I don&#039;t really know if these are the technical terms but you get the point, right?

Now you tell me, how can&#039;t I compare this with what the nazis did to so many people? 
It shocks you? GREAT!!!

What shocks me is hypocrites who don&#039;t admit who they really are!!

How does someone who claims to be a vegetarian and wears leather, or someone who promotes a campaign for animal rights and afterwards promotes a burger company, help AR activism?
Then we have people who say things like: &quot;Well I barely eat meat, therefore I&#039;m practically a vegetarian&quot;... or something similar!


&quot;Can’t we just support every little thing people do towards helping animals/the environment, instead of shunning them for not doing enough?&quot;

&quot;It’s much easier to convince people to decrease behaviors than eliminate them, which is why it’s sooo important to be supportive of anything people are doing in the right direction, instead of calling them hypocrites for not doing enough.&quot;

I agree that doing a little bit is better than doing nothing. And I have nothing against individuals that choose to start changing their habits even if they&#039;re only taking baby steps..

However, we&#039;re talking about celebrities. They are role models who people look up to, so don&#039;t expect me to pat them on the back and say they&#039;re great just because they promote one lifestyle (which is not even their own) or if they say they&#039;re vegetarian and then wear leather, and so on...!

I believe everyone here has already seen &#039;Earthlings&#039;, but in case you haven&#039;t, please (pretty please!!) watch it and then you&#039;ll understand my comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9FD18926170ED901&amp;search_query=earthlings

Watch all 10 parts. I promise you won&#039;t regret it and maybe (just maybe) you&#039;ll learn something and change your opinion regarding your &#039;beloved&#039; humans!



ANGRY, EMOTIONAL, FRUSTRATED, BITTER, HYSTERICAL AND F****** PROUD ACTIVIST!!!!

:)

Sorry for the extension of my comment... 

I&#039;m off, I&#039;m beat... It has been one LONG weekend!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;AR activists get bad reps because of these kind of extremist mentalities (ex: Nazi comparison)… &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;we must draw attention to these issues but calling people “nazis” or “hypocrites” isnt “drawing attention”, its merely ventilating ones anger and frustration in a slight histerical way&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, if you say I&#8217;m being extremist by comparing what the nazis did to millions of people with what we do to animals, then that&#8217;s because you think humans are superior to animals. That&#8217;s why it shocks you! Therefore you believe we shouldn&#8217;t compare animals with humans&#8230; Why? How different is that from people who believe that the purpose of animals is to serve all our needs!? They wouldn&#8217;t even think about doing to humans what they do to animals would they? Of course not, because they see them as &#8216;equals&#8217;. See where I&#8217;m getting at? That&#8217;s the point I wanted to make. Humans do all these horrible things to animals because they see them as an inferior species. That&#8217;s what the nazis thought of Jewish people, gay people, gypsies and people with disabilities&#8230; that they were inferior!</p>
<p>Do you understand now?</p>
<p>And do you want to know what&#8217;s really extremist?<br />
I&#8217;ll tell you&#8230;<br />
I volunteer at my local shelter, doing a little bit of everything.<br />
I went there yesterday and do you know what the person responsible for the shelter showed me?<br />
They have surveillance cameras 24/7 and last Thursday they captured a man arriving in his car&#8230; it was 7:30 a.m., no one was there; he parked the car near the entrance door, got out of the car, didn&#8217;t ring the bell (because as the coward he is, he knew no one was there and thus could get away with what he was about to do), opened the trunk of his car and grabbing 5 or 6 dogs, one by one as if they were bags of trash, pulled them out and threw them to the floor&#8230;!<br />
Then he drove off running over one of the dogs!!! The people who work at the shelter found all of the animals except the one WHO was run over &#8211; (S)HE probably died in agony in the woods (the shelter is on the outskirts of the city, near the woods).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all very nice and cosy to write on our computer keyboard (away from the &#8216;reality&#8217;) saying we shouldn&#8217;t point fingers or call people hypocrites, but when we&#8217;re in the field and see things like the one I mentioned above (which are terrifyingly common), it&#8217;s hard not to get emotional, angry and &#8216;extremist&#8217;!!! So please don&#8217;t come here and lecture me okay!?</p>
<p>Going back to the coward &#8216;who&#8217; did this, the problem is that the law in my country (as in many others) regards animals as, literally, &#8216;things&#8217;. As far as the law is concerned, that man didn&#8217;t commit any crime! A person is only guilty of such a crime if (s)he hurts or kills an animal who has an owner. In that case it&#8217;s considered as an attempt to damage private property. Animals are considered their owner&#8217;s property! I don&#8217;t really know if these are the technical terms but you get the point, right?</p>
<p>Now you tell me, how can&#8217;t I compare this with what the nazis did to so many people?<br />
It shocks you? GREAT!!!</p>
<p>What shocks me is hypocrites who don&#8217;t admit who they really are!!</p>
<p>How does someone who claims to be a vegetarian and wears leather, or someone who promotes a campaign for animal rights and afterwards promotes a burger company, help AR activism?<br />
Then we have people who say things like: &#8220;Well I barely eat meat, therefore I&#8217;m practically a vegetarian&#8221;&#8230; or something similar!</p>
<p>&#8220;Can’t we just support every little thing people do towards helping animals/the environment, instead of shunning them for not doing enough?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s much easier to convince people to decrease behaviors than eliminate them, which is why it’s sooo important to be supportive of anything people are doing in the right direction, instead of calling them hypocrites for not doing enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that doing a little bit is better than doing nothing. And I have nothing against individuals that choose to start changing their habits even if they&#8217;re only taking baby steps..</p>
<p>However, we&#8217;re talking about celebrities. They are role models who people look up to, so don&#8217;t expect me to pat them on the back and say they&#8217;re great just because they promote one lifestyle (which is not even their own) or if they say they&#8217;re vegetarian and then wear leather, and so on&#8230;!</p>
<p>I believe everyone here has already seen &#8216;Earthlings&#8217;, but in case you haven&#8217;t, please (pretty please!!) watch it and then you&#8217;ll understand my comparison:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9FD18926170ED901&#038;search_query=earthlings" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9FD18926170ED901&#038;search_query=earthlings</a></p>
<p>Watch all 10 parts. I promise you won&#8217;t regret it and maybe (just maybe) you&#8217;ll learn something and change your opinion regarding your &#8216;beloved&#8217; humans!</p>
<p>ANGRY, EMOTIONAL, FRUSTRATED, BITTER, HYSTERICAL AND F****** PROUD ACTIVIST!!!!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sorry for the extension of my comment&#8230; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m off, I&#8217;m beat&#8230; It has been one LONG weekend!!!</p>
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		<title>By: herwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>herwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah , we must draw attention to these issues but calling people &quot;nazis&quot; or &quot;hypocrites&quot; isnt &quot;drawing attention&quot;, its merely ventilating ones anger and frustration in a slight histerical way. 
btw, the Peta Holocaust posters refering to the animal factory farms were brilliant, a real shame they gave in and stopped that campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah , we must draw attention to these issues but calling people &#8220;nazis&#8221; or &#8220;hypocrites&#8221; isnt &#8220;drawing attention&#8221;, its merely ventilating ones anger and frustration in a slight histerical way.<br />
btw, the Peta Holocaust posters refering to the animal factory farms were brilliant, a real shame they gave in and stopped that campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Get Technical</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get Technical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is important to support every little thing a person does. That&#039;s why PETA works with celebrities on the issue they are comfortable with supporting-not everyone has to be vegetarian.

However, if we praise all the time and never draw attention to the moral schizophrenia that often occurs in people who claim to love animals and be against cruelty but buy leather, eat &quot;free-range,&quot; animals, etc., then an opportunity is missed to educate and change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is important to support every little thing a person does. That&#8217;s why PETA works with celebrities on the issue they are comfortable with supporting-not everyone has to be vegetarian.</p>
<p>However, if we praise all the time and never draw attention to the moral schizophrenia that often occurs in people who claim to love animals and be against cruelty but buy leather, eat &#8220;free-range,&#8221; animals, etc., then an opportunity is missed to educate and change.</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t we just support every little thing people do towards helping animals/the environment, instead of shunning them for not doing enough? 

I mean.. The Carrie/leather thing... good for her that she&#039;s veg! That&#039;s one more good deed for the animals. The leather thing sucks, but would you rather she eat meat to avoid being a hypocrite? Yes, ideally, she&#039;d do neither, but let&#039;s applaud the fact that she&#039;s doing anything at all, which is more than most.

AR activists get bad reps because of these kind of extremist mentalities (ex: Nazi comparison)... we have to keep in mind that 2 people who cut down on 1/2 their meat consumption are equal to a vegetarian. It&#039;s much easier to convince people to decrease behaviors than eliminate them, which is why it&#039;s sooo important to be supportive of anything people are doing in the right direction, instead of calling them hypocrites for not doing enough. 

Extremist attitudes turn people off AR/environmentalism. Everyone taking baby steps together is better than a few leaping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t we just support every little thing people do towards helping animals/the environment, instead of shunning them for not doing enough? </p>
<p>I mean.. The Carrie/leather thing&#8230; good for her that she&#8217;s veg! That&#8217;s one more good deed for the animals. The leather thing sucks, but would you rather she eat meat to avoid being a hypocrite? Yes, ideally, she&#8217;d do neither, but let&#8217;s applaud the fact that she&#8217;s doing anything at all, which is more than most.</p>
<p>AR activists get bad reps because of these kind of extremist mentalities (ex: Nazi comparison)&#8230; we have to keep in mind that 2 people who cut down on 1/2 their meat consumption are equal to a vegetarian. It&#8217;s much easier to convince people to decrease behaviors than eliminate them, which is why it&#8217;s sooo important to be supportive of anything people are doing in the right direction, instead of calling them hypocrites for not doing enough. </p>
<p>Extremist attitudes turn people off AR/environmentalism. Everyone taking baby steps together is better than a few leaping.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish AR activist will stop afraid to speak the truth on behalf of those who can&#039;t speak for themselves.

For the nonhumans animals in labs and in factory farms, humans are Nazis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish AR activist will stop afraid to speak the truth on behalf of those who can&#8217;t speak for themselves.</p>
<p>For the nonhumans animals in labs and in factory farms, humans are Nazis.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Raw Foods</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin Raw Foods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS and ASScroft and Karl Rove and Rumsfield would be locked up there with him in jail eating vegetarian diets (no meat allowed) they&#039;d have to grow it themselves and have to watch daily educational videos on the importance of treating animals humanely (and eco movies about our fragile planet and finding peace on earth and within themselves)  Now I wouldn&#039;t mind if my tax dollars were spent on that :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS and ASScroft and Karl Rove and Rumsfield would be locked up there with him in jail eating vegetarian diets (no meat allowed) they&#8217;d have to grow it themselves and have to watch daily educational videos on the importance of treating animals humanely (and eco movies about our fragile planet and finding peace on earth and within themselves)  Now I wouldn&#8217;t mind if my tax dollars were spent on that <img src='http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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