Comments on: We Rejoice As Canadian Seal Hunt Ends With Record Low Numbers http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/ Causes Entertainment Lifestyle Pop Culture Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:24:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: A Sealed Fate: 90,000 Seals To Be Clubbed To Death In Nambia // ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-333746 A Sealed Fate: 90,000 Seals To Be Clubbed To Death In Nambia // ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green gossip Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:34:10 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=17421#comment-333746 [...] the global economic downturn. As we reported earlier, it was also heartening to see this year that a record low number of seals were killed during the Canadian Seal Hunt. 4 [...] [...] the global economic downturn. As we reported earlier, it was also heartening to see this year that a record low number of seals were killed during the Canadian Seal Hunt. 4 [...]

]]> By: Alex http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-332753 Alex Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:58:09 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=17421#comment-332753 Oh, sorry, it is akapik, and not akapic for sure! And, by the way, sorry or th quality of my english, it's not my first language.. Oh, sorry, it is akapik, and not akapic for sure!
And, by the way, sorry or th quality of my english, it’s not my first language..

]]> By: Alex http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-332752 Alex Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:53:26 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=17421#comment-332752 Alex F, two things. First, the problem is that animalists propagates a lot of lies to convert peoples to anti-seals hunt ideas. You give an excellent example in sayingt that "many (most?) of the victims are speared on a hook and have their skin cut off while still alive". The use of the akapic has always been the recomanded method to kill seals because it is faster and more presise that guns. I do not have the numbers, but it would be quite surprising if more than 75% of the deers woul be killed with the first shot. And, no, their skin is not cut while they are still alive. (By the way, I saw a video where a unemployed man paid by the Humane Society cuts an alive seal in the 90's. It is very instructive in that sense that it makes you realise how hard it is to cut an alive seal, seriously, it is terrible and totaly uneffetive) Secondly, most of the people supporting the fight against seals hunt do it, not because they are against all kinds of hunting, but because they realy belive that seals hnt is more crual than others kinds of hunting. And the animalists groups use their support to fight aginst hunting in general, knowing that they are misinformed and that they do not poursue the same goals at all. Alex F, two things.
First, the problem is that animalists propagates a lot of lies to convert peoples to anti-seals hunt ideas. You give an excellent example in sayingt that “many (most?) of the victims are speared on a hook and have their skin cut off while still alive”. The use of the akapic has always been the recomanded method to kill seals because it is faster and more presise that guns. I do not have the numbers, but it would be quite surprising if more than 75% of the deers woul be killed with the first shot. And, no, their skin is not cut while they are still alive. (By the way, I saw a video where a unemployed man paid by the Humane Society cuts an alive seal in the 90′s. It is very instructive in that sense that it makes you realise how hard it is to cut an alive seal, seriously, it is terrible and totaly uneffetive)
Secondly, most of the people supporting the fight against seals hunt do it, not because they are against all kinds of hunting, but because they realy belive that seals hnt is more crual than others kinds of hunting. And the animalists groups use their support to fight aginst hunting in general, knowing that they are misinformed and that they do not poursue the same goals at all.

]]> By: Alex F http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-330874 Alex F Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:38:50 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=17421#comment-330874 Alex, two things. First, most animal activists think other forms of hunting ARE cruel and should be stopped. Focusing our efforts on ending one particular type of cruelty doesn't mean we aren't also opposed to other types, or even that we aren't also campaigning against other types. Second, some forms of hunting are relatively painless for most of the victims--a gunshot to the head of a deer means instant death. That doesn't mean the practice is acceptable, but compared to the seal hunt where many (most?) of the victims are speared on a hook and have their skin cut off while still alive, it seems clear that the seal hunt involves greater suffering and hence is crueler. Alex, two things. First, most animal activists think other forms of hunting ARE cruel and should be stopped. Focusing our efforts on ending one particular type of cruelty doesn’t mean we aren’t also opposed to other types, or even that we aren’t also campaigning against other types. Second, some forms of hunting are relatively painless for most of the victims–a gunshot to the head of a deer means instant death. That doesn’t mean the practice is acceptable, but compared to the seal hunt where many (most?) of the victims are speared on a hook and have their skin cut off while still alive, it seems clear that the seal hunt involves greater suffering and hence is crueler.

]]> By: Alex http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-326230 Alex Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:47:02 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=17421#comment-326230 Why does nobody seems to realize that it is a little bit surprising that many people and organizations wants to stop seals hunting because it’s so cruel, but nobody seems able to compare it with others kinds of huntings. We already know that seals hunt is one of the most controlled kind of hunt and is generating a shroter agon time that practically all others hunts. So, why is it suppose to be more cruel than others ones? Why does nobody seems to realize that it is a little bit surprising that many people and organizations wants to stop seals hunting because it’s so cruel, but nobody seems able to compare it with others kinds of huntings. We already know that seals hunt is one of the most controlled kind of hunt and is generating a shroter agon time that practically all others hunts. So, why is it suppose to be more cruel than others ones?

]]> By: jamie lynn http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-326103 jamie lynn Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:25:00 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=17421#comment-326103 "When they shut down the Nazi camps I’m sure many guards were out of work. They found new jobs and I’m sure these cruel bastards will too." zing! right on E :) this is fantastic. i agree: we will win! “When they shut down the Nazi camps I’m sure many guards were out of work. They found new jobs and I’m sure these cruel bastards will too.”

zing! right on E :)

this is fantastic. i agree: we will win!

]]> By: Good News for Seals « THERMOS(R) ECO-LOGIC LIVING http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-325407 Good News for Seals « THERMOS(R) ECO-LOGIC LIVING Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:38:27 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=17421#comment-325407 [...] Each year the Canadian government sets a legal limit for how many animals may be slaughtered during the season. The quote this year was 273,000, but fisherman only managed to kill 70,000.  Now this is still a very large number and it could be debated that due to previous years of killing there just isn’t as many seals, but the fact remains that more have survived this year. This is in combination with the efforts of many people and organizations across the world. We can only hope that next year will be less or even better, no hunt at all. Click here to learn more of the details. [...] [...] Each year the Canadian government sets a legal limit for how many animals may be slaughtered during the season. The quote this year was 273,000, but fisherman only managed to kill 70,000.  Now this is still a very large number and it could be debated that due to previous years of killing there just isn’t as many seals, but the fact remains that more have survived this year. This is in combination with the efforts of many people and organizations across the world. We can only hope that next year will be less or even better, no hunt at all. Click here to learn more of the details. [...]

]]> By: Whoever... http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-325045 Whoever... Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:03:12 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=17421#comment-325045 "You have effectively decimated a source of income for needy families. You have also contributed to the upset of the eco-system on the east coast of Canada." My goodness, will these people never learn? First, instead of whining maybe the fisherman (if they were intelligent people) should start thinking about new ways of making money - why not seal and whale watching? This way they'd profit much more and everyone would be happy! Yesterday I watched a documentary about redwoods in the USA. They showed a town where it was decided not to cut redwoods any more - instead they built a cable car and charged for the rides. Guess what? Money started pouring in from visitors and they actually made a lot more money than before (with logging)! Also, Nature balances itself without our 'help'! How arrogant these people are. Humans haven't been on the planet since its very beginning, you know? And species and ecosystems made it without us!! The only destructive variable in the planet right now is the human species!! We are the ones upsetting all the ecosystems of our planet. Maybe we should think about eliminating a few million people... what about that? Oh wait, we're humans, we're special, we're superior and more intelligent so we can't eliminate people...! Oh but wait a minute, don't we make wars and kill each other for natural resources and for important things like religion!? Humm...I'm confused... Either humankind evolves or it will face a very rough time in the next few years! Our lifestyle has put too much 'stress' on the planet... we have to expect its equilibrium to break at a certain point, and we'll be the ones who will hurt the most. P.S. Erin, I love your comparison :) “You have effectively decimated a source of income for needy families. You have also contributed to the upset of the eco-system on the east coast of Canada.”

My goodness, will these people never learn?

First, instead of whining maybe the fisherman (if they were intelligent people) should start thinking about new ways of making money – why not seal and whale watching? This way they’d profit much more and everyone would be happy! Yesterday I watched a documentary about redwoods in the USA. They showed a town where it was decided not to cut redwoods any more – instead they built a cable car and charged for the rides.
Guess what? Money started pouring in from visitors and they actually made a lot more money than before (with logging)!

Also, Nature balances itself without our ‘help’! How arrogant these people are. Humans haven’t been on the planet since its very beginning, you know? And species and ecosystems made it without us!! The only destructive variable in the planet right now is the human species!!
We are the ones upsetting all the ecosystems of our planet.

Maybe we should think about eliminating a few million people… what about that?
Oh wait, we’re humans, we’re special, we’re superior and more intelligent so we can’t eliminate people…! Oh but wait a minute, don’t we make wars and kill each other for natural resources and for important things like religion!?

Humm…I’m confused…

Either humankind evolves or it will face a very rough time in the next few years! Our lifestyle has put too much ‘stress’ on the planet… we have to expect its equilibrium to break at a certain point, and we’ll be the ones who will hurt the most.

P.S. Erin, I love your comparison :)

]]> By: Erin Raw Foods http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-324848 Erin Raw Foods Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:06:31 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=17421#comment-324848 Just saw Joe's post and everyone's brilliant responses. And even if clubbing seals to death WERE their main source of income (which it's not) I'd tell them to get another job. I know many don't like this comparison... but I'm going for it. When they shut down the Nazi camps I'm sure many guards were out of work. They found new jobs and I'm sure these cruel bastards will too. E Just saw Joe’s post and everyone’s brilliant responses. And even if clubbing seals to death WERE their main source of income (which it’s not) I’d tell them to get another job. I know many don’t like this comparison… but I’m going for it. When they shut down the Nazi camps I’m sure many guards were out of work. They found new jobs and I’m sure these cruel bastards will too.

E

]]> By: L http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/06/18/we-rejoice-as-canadian-seal-hunt-ends-with-record-low-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-324727 L Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:15:40 +0000 http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=17421#comment-324727 Joe seems to have forgotten that there are people in the world who don't subsist on Cod or any kind of animal flesh. I believe they[we]'re called vegans? =) Joe seems to have forgotten that there are people in the world who don’t subsist on Cod or any kind of animal flesh. I believe they[we]‘re called vegans? =)

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