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		<title>By: herwin</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/12/14/top-5-animal-rights-victories-of-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1138923</link>
		<dc:creator>herwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so my guess is, David, according to your standards, that you fully support any animal rights organisation that fights for ending FUR, fights for ending ALL animal experiments, Fights against the animal trade, has a running and very high profiled and very succesful campaign promoting veganism, (so many veggies i meet around the world, became veggie after seeing Peta&#039;s Meet Your Meat or Peta&#039;s website information) such as PETA, eh ?
Cool, a Peta supporter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so my guess is, David, according to your standards, that you fully support any animal rights organisation that fights for ending FUR, fights for ending ALL animal experiments, Fights against the animal trade, has a running and very high profiled and very succesful campaign promoting veganism, (so many veggies i meet around the world, became veggie after seeing Peta&#8217;s Meet Your Meat or Peta&#8217;s website information) such as PETA, eh ?<br />
Cool, a Peta supporter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: herwin</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/12/14/top-5-animal-rights-victories-of-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1138848</link>
		<dc:creator>herwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 05:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know you or your organisation, i only know you by the words i read now.
I must say, i pretty much agree with it. By now many ordinary people know about the animal factories and how immense cruel the animals are treated. Many ordinary people are seriously considering going veg, for one or more days a week. But instead of keeping our agenda and showing how brutal the animal factories are, we play the game and suddenly advertise it as an &quot;animal rights&quot; victory when the animal factories stop cutting tails, or another small change. 
In short , animal organisations saying that this is a victory for the animals, are giving the message to ordinary people that animal factories cleaned up their cruel behaviour and have become more humane.
That, in short, is a BIG step back. 

These sort of reforms only help clean up the animal factories image, and refrain ordinary people from switching to a veg diet, because even animal organisations themselves are saying that the animals are living a better life.

I agree with you that some posters here dont stick to arguments but get personal and insulting, too bad, that doesnt do their case very good, and disrespectful because you post here with your own name and simply expres your opinion.

&quot;We dont want bigger cages, we want empty cages.&quot;
That was the motto from the animal rights movement.
anybody who thinks that can&#039;t be possible and only minor reforms are &quot;realistic&quot; is a cynicus.

True animal victories are the ban on seal fur in the European Union.
I am so glad that these people did fight for a Ban and not for a &quot;more human way of killing the seals&quot;.

You get what you fight for. You fight for minor improvem,ents, thats what you get.
You fight for a ban, thats what you get.
Thank you all the true animal defenders like Paul Watson, who don&#039;t &quot;compromise&quot;. Because you cant compromise with somebody elses life.
If you where in the shoes of the pig, the cow, the chicken, you would FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT for a ban, to turn people vegan, you woulnd fight for 10 cm2 extra space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know you or your organisation, i only know you by the words i read now.<br />
I must say, i pretty much agree with it. By now many ordinary people know about the animal factories and how immense cruel the animals are treated. Many ordinary people are seriously considering going veg, for one or more days a week. But instead of keeping our agenda and showing how brutal the animal factories are, we play the game and suddenly advertise it as an &#8220;animal rights&#8221; victory when the animal factories stop cutting tails, or another small change.<br />
In short , animal organisations saying that this is a victory for the animals, are giving the message to ordinary people that animal factories cleaned up their cruel behaviour and have become more humane.<br />
That, in short, is a BIG step back. </p>
<p>These sort of reforms only help clean up the animal factories image, and refrain ordinary people from switching to a veg diet, because even animal organisations themselves are saying that the animals are living a better life.</p>
<p>I agree with you that some posters here dont stick to arguments but get personal and insulting, too bad, that doesnt do their case very good, and disrespectful because you post here with your own name and simply expres your opinion.</p>
<p>&#8220;We dont want bigger cages, we want empty cages.&#8221;<br />
That was the motto from the animal rights movement.<br />
anybody who thinks that can&#8217;t be possible and only minor reforms are &#8220;realistic&#8221; is a cynicus.</p>
<p>True animal victories are the ban on seal fur in the European Union.<br />
I am so glad that these people did fight for a Ban and not for a &#8220;more human way of killing the seals&#8221;.</p>
<p>You get what you fight for. You fight for minor improvem,ents, thats what you get.<br />
You fight for a ban, thats what you get.<br />
Thank you all the true animal defenders like Paul Watson, who don&#8217;t &#8220;compromise&#8221;. Because you cant compromise with somebody elses life.<br />
If you where in the shoes of the pig, the cow, the chicken, you would FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT for a ban, to turn people vegan, you woulnd fight for 10 cm2 extra space.</p>
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		<title>By: herwin</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/12/14/top-5-animal-rights-victories-of-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1138796</link>
		<dc:creator>herwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 05:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had a distorted view a while ago for the Razzi, but it was my browser. All i had to do was press the Compatibility View button (looks like a paper torn in tow pieces) at the top of the browser, next to the adres bar. Problem solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had a distorted view a while ago for the Razzi, but it was my browser. All i had to do was press the Compatibility View button (looks like a paper torn in tow pieces) at the top of the browser, next to the adres bar. Problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: ????</title>
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		<dc:creator>????</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 09:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick note to Mary. Are you sure that you have read the entire article? They answer your queries towards the end!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick note to Mary. Are you sure that you have read the entire article? They answer your queries towards the end!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael d&#39;Estries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael d&#39;Estries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom,

Would love to help. We receive thousands of visits per day without any issues reported. I suspect it may have something to do with your browser -- and since we&#039;re still working out the bugs from our latest refresh, I&#039;d appreciate any input you might be able to provide. 

Best,
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Would love to help. We receive thousands of visits per day without any issues reported. I suspect it may have something to do with your browser &#8212; and since we&#8217;re still working out the bugs from our latest refresh, I&#8217;d appreciate any input you might be able to provide. </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The formatting on this website is totally out of whack and doesn&#039;t load properly. Comments are covered by the flower thing, the text flows vertically with one word per line... Also, the &#039;Top 5 Animal Rights Victories of 2009&#039; gallery doesn&#039;t open or work. 

Too bad... looks like a site would like to keep tabs on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The formatting on this website is totally out of whack and doesn&#8217;t load properly. Comments are covered by the flower thing, the text flows vertically with one word per line&#8230; Also, the &#8216;Top 5 Animal Rights Victories of 2009&#8242; gallery doesn&#8217;t open or work. </p>
<p>Too bad&#8230; looks like a site would like to keep tabs on.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom England</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/12/14/top-5-animal-rights-victories-of-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-408132</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In June this year, Animal Defenders International secured a national ban on all animals in circuses in Bolivia - the first of it&#039;s kind in the world.  This is without a doubt the biggest victory for animal protection this year.

Visit www.ad-international.org to find out more about the good work they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In June this year, Animal Defenders International secured a national ban on all animals in circuses in Bolivia &#8211; the first of it&#8217;s kind in the world.  This is without a doubt the biggest victory for animal protection this year.</p>
<p>Visit <a href="http://www.ad-international.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ad-international.org</a> to find out more about the good work they do.</p>
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		<title>By: gen</title>
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		<dc:creator>gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, will you marry me?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, will you marry me?  <img src='http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Shishkoff</title>
		<link>http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/12/14/top-5-animal-rights-victories-of-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-407197</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Shishkoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised the comments from eleveneleven made it through moderation, how are their comments anything more than flamebait?

At least i&#039;m up-front with who i am, and who i choose to represent.

The rest of the comments are insulting and specious.

Appreciate that other readers recognize and value the differences between rights and reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised the comments from eleveneleven made it through moderation, how are their comments anything more than flamebait?</p>
<p>At least i&#8217;m up-front with who i am, and who i choose to represent.</p>
<p>The rest of the comments are insulting and specious.</p>
<p>Appreciate that other readers recognize and value the differences between rights and reform.</p>
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		<title>By: Urton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great that you&#039;ve highlighted California&#039;s tail docking ban. This practice is not performed at slaughterhouses, though (to my knowledge). It is performed by some dairy farmers in an attempt to keep manure-covered tails from getting in the way of milking parlor staff. Some farmers also believe it helps keep the udder clean, but this has been disproved by research at the University of British Columbia. 

As a result of this research, the Canadian Code of Practice for the Care and Handling of Dairy Cattle (a quasi-regulatory standard) was amended earlier this year to stipulate that dairy farmers must not tail dock in Canada. Incidentally, the Code also now includes restrictions on electric prod use and states that pain control must be used for dehorning (which is called &quot;disbudding&quot; on young calves), castration and branding of dairy cattle. You can see the full Code at http://www.nfacc.ca/Projects/Detail.aspx?id=5.

Geoff Urton
British Columbia SPCA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great that you&#8217;ve highlighted California&#8217;s tail docking ban. This practice is not performed at slaughterhouses, though (to my knowledge). It is performed by some dairy farmers in an attempt to keep manure-covered tails from getting in the way of milking parlor staff. Some farmers also believe it helps keep the udder clean, but this has been disproved by research at the University of British Columbia. </p>
<p>As a result of this research, the Canadian Code of Practice for the Care and Handling of Dairy Cattle (a quasi-regulatory standard) was amended earlier this year to stipulate that dairy farmers must not tail dock in Canada. Incidentally, the Code also now includes restrictions on electric prod use and states that pain control must be used for dehorning (which is called &#8220;disbudding&#8221; on young calves), castration and branding of dairy cattle. You can see the full Code at <a href="http://www.nfacc.ca/Projects/Detail.aspx?id=5" rel="nofollow">http://www.nfacc.ca/Projects/Detail.aspx?id=5</a>.</p>
<p>Geoff Urton<br />
British Columbia SPCA</p>
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