Absolutely love picture #7. Any chance of getting that in a larger version that can be used for a wallpaper?

Cho Cho ma,

Check your facts bud…. YOU are in fact, a naïve fool….

Sea Shepherd blocks a handful of whales only. There is no empirical proof that shows that any Sea Shepherd ship actually blocked the harpooning of any whales at all. As a matter of fact, there is a history of having them shot right in front of them and transferred successfully to the factory ship. Whatever whales they may not have shot in the SO, were shot elsewhere – but the SSCS doesn’t care about those because they weren’t from Japan. The whalers may not have made their quota, but it can’t all be attributed to the interference.

Peter Bethune was written off by the NZ government, and any support for him is a waste of resources. Even the NZ government says that he is best left to the Japanese judicial system. You don’t have to believe me – see it for yourself….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RSRHzbZKFc

Believe this – he’s going to get the maximum sentence that they can give him – you won’t see him for years unless it’s in Whale Wars reruns!

The Bob Barker sits in Hobart because no country will flag a vessel that obvious racists use. Chris, who is actually on the Bob Barker, said it himself on the SS forum, so I have a little more accurate information regarding the engine difficulties which are more severe than you can imagine. It costs money to fix it, and good ol’ Bob probably isn’t going to hand the beggars any more for mishandling the funds in the first place. So, who should I believe – someone who is actually ion the ship, or some nitwit like you?

Racism? Hmmmm… Ok, let’s look at some of the golden comments from SS members shall we?

“I remember the rape of nankin,remember changi,remember the machinegunning of the australian nurses, remember the batann deathmarch, remember the burma railway, remember hellfire pass, remember the comfort women, remember sandarkin, I know my history, its a pity the Japanese don,t remember, I have no love, respect, for this despicable race.”

“I hate a race that cannibalised and used Australian troops for bayonet practice, and until the truth about what the Imperial army did during world war 2 is taught openly to the japanese people and the whole sordid truth comes to light, I will continue to hate the bastards. For the sake of the innocents who suffered under the heel of the japanese THIS MUST NOT BE FOrGOTTON OR FORGIVEN anymore that what the NAZIS did to the Jews.”

Yep – those are quotes from the SS forum. Oh man – you’re right, Cho Cho Ma – no racism there, right? Yeah, that’s really going to get the Japanese folks to come down in droves to sign up to ship out with the Sea Shepherds, don’t you think?

You were right about one thing – and that is that the fact that that the Sea Shepherds did have a Japanese crew member. However, she was just there to film a music video and was just there for the ride, idiot. They had to break off from the chase to drop her to the top of an iceberg so she could film her video. She wasn’t there for anything but her own publicity. She used them and the Sea Shepherds tolerated it because they were being paid to do it. Otherwise, the Sea Shepherds have no Japanese crew members.

Butyric acid? The Sea Shepherds buy the chemicals, they don’t make “rotten butter” themselves. Try splashing some into your eyes and drinking some and see just how “non-toxic” it is, idiot. Post that up on YouTube and then I’ll believe you.

Those ARE the facts, Cho Cho Ma – try researching before you tow the party line and just parrot what is chirped into your ignorant ears.

Cho Cho Ma,

Thanks for absolutely proving my point. You think that facts and logic have no reasoning. When faced with the facts, the Sea Shepherds will turn away and say exactly what you just did. Be just like Kapn Crunch Paulie Watson and just make up the facts to suit your needs. Just in case you were too dumb to remember, your buddy Paulie actually did say that in “Earthforce”. Stooge. Feel good about though, you’re in good company. Your clones Donovan and Lenzabi trowel out garbage like machines too and shrivel like testicles in a cold pool when faced with the facts.

Cho Cho Ma,

“Sea Shepherd goes against the Japanese specifically (currently) because they are the most easy to oppose”.

Oh, Ok – since they make an easy target, we should just forget about everyone else doing stuff, including the Australians and New Zealanders who also fish for Southern Bluefin Tuna, right? We don’t care about those because it’s the Maltese and Italians that are selling their catch to Japan. That’s what Operation Blue-Ball Rage is all about.

You rock dude – the more you argue, the more you prove our points!

So far you have:

Admitted that racism is part of the Sea Shepherds…

..and that the Sea Shepherds ARE focused only on Japan right now.

By the way, picture #2 looks like it should be in the People of Walmart site! LOL!

Cbrooks,

Nice try, but I have actually spoken with someone working on the Bob Barker and the fact remains that a shiny new prop and some maritime epoxy paint won’t cover the fact that the engines don’t run worth crud and that without a flag, the Bob Barker is nothing but a hulk sitting in Hobart – just a storage place for the crap that the SSCS losers were basically begging for. The longer it sits there, the more money gets soaked away. It costs money to dock there, or did that escape you?

You’ve seen some pictures – I’ve actually spoken with someone from the ship. In chess that would be checkmate. You’re a doof like your buddy Cho Cho Ma.

Cho Cho Ma,

Are you daft, or are you just really that stupid? I’ll cut you a little slack because English is definitely not your strong suit, so, in deference to you and Cbrook, I’ll keep it simple.

First, no one said anything about Pepper Spray, so I don’t know why you keep bringing it up. I know it’s hard for an idiot like you, but try to follow along at least. We’re talking about BUTYRIC ACID! First off, Cbrook – learn how to spell it right. No one is ever going to take you seriously until you learn some of the skills that most 6th graders already have. You quoted the Ph levels of Butyric acid – well, many things have neutral Ph but are harmful. Do you even know what the difference is between and Acid and a Base and what Ph actually stands for? You numbskulls say it’s harmless simply because its Ph level is moderate. I say that if you think its so harmless – go and order the same stuff that the Sea Shepherds use and splash it in your face, eyes and then drink some to prove it. You won’t do it because you think it’s harmful too. The SSCS doesn’t throw “rancid or rotten butter”, they have stated that Butyric acid does occur in those substances, which is correct, but in its industrial form, it’s harmful to you. Check with any chemistry teacher, and quit cut/pasting from the SSCS site. Try thinking for yourselves for a change.

Secondly, you blowholes always assume that everyone who opposes you must be “pro-whaling”. Wrong. Many people here actually oppose whaling, but they oppose the tactics of the SSCS even more. No one has the right to take the law into their own hands simply because they don’t like what someone else is doing. But, you guys think what you like.

Thirdly, do we get paid by the ICR? Maybe. You and Cbrook like to insult us for coming in here and posting stuff, but, you guys are doing the same exact thing. No one made you come in here posting, and if I am getting paid to do what I do by the ICR, well, that makes YOU the loser because you post garbage for absolutely nothing.

Fourth – I never called you a racist. I called the SSCS a racist organization. You are not a member of the SSCS board or actually a member of their crews. You’re just some nitwit who posts up in random places to make himself feel better. First you said that there was no racism, then when confronted with the facts, you backtracked like a good little worm, and admitted that yes, there is some evident.

Hufingraz,

You have no right to say anything about the same people coming in to say the same things – the EXACT same thing can be said of you as well. Dumbass. No one makes you guys post up in here – if you don’t like what you read – why don’t YOU guys go away? Why not? Because you can’t, that’s why. You just feel so compelled to come in and tow the party line.

WE need to get lives? We’re not the ones from the SS forum that were cast aside like the rest of you idiots by the real SSCS, who finally realized what we had been saying all along was the truth – all the fools from that forum (like you) were just posers, waving their little pirate flags in their hands and drooling every time you looked at Paulie Fatson’s picture, and then you were ALL cut loose and thrown away like yesterday’s trash. Now what is your new organization, the Retardian Alliance, or something like that? What are you dimwits going to do now, buy a rowboat and start ramming fishing vessels in the harbors? If you do, make sure you don’t make the same mistake as that idiot Bethune and accelerate in front of a vessel that was many times larger. Yeah, we need to get lives.. like YOUR lives? We’re not the posers who were dismissed as idiots by the very organization that we supported – you were.

Come on Cho Cho Ma, post up some more so you can prove me right in that that you just can’t resist it.

Hufingraz,

No one gives a crap about how long you have been lurking on this site. You and your buddy Cho Cho love to tell people that they post because they have no lives, losers, (the titty comment was funny, I’ll give you props for that one!), but you have just stated that you just can’t resist coming in here and posting away. If I am a troll and a loser, then so are you by your very own definition.

For the record, I never said Paul Watson was a convicted felon, post up where I said it. If you’re going to accuse me of spouting anything, make sure I actually said it first. This pretty much tells me you can’t keep a decent train of thought either.

Cho Cho Ma,

AP courses at WHAT school? Whichever it is, you should get your money back because your ability to communicate is right about at the 4th grade level. Try a spellchecking and grammar checking program, it may help you. You used the comparison of pepper spray because you were basically too dumb to follow the conversation. Maybe you better leave this between Hufingraz and myself – at least he can follow the train of thought.

To both of you,

Since you also never responded to the question regarding knowing the difference between an Acid and a Base, then I assume that you don’t know unless you go to Wikipedia. I still haven’t seen a response back from either of you two idiots about Butyric acid (yes, Hufingraz, that’s how to spell it). You both contend that it occurs naturally in rotten butter, etc, and has neutral Ph and is harmless. SSCS gets theirs in the industrial form, and I still challenge you to go get some, drink it, and pour some in your eyes and THEN tell us how harmless it is. All you do is cut/paste the same tired info right from the SSCS site. Post your results up on YouTube and then I’ll believe you and admit I was wrong.

I do have a more serious question, and I’d like a serious answer – As Paul Watson has started very clearly that he advocates the fabrication of data to further his causes, why would you possibly trust anything that this person actually tells you? Why do you follow someone who basically said that this is OK to do? It’s a well-known quote that he himself has re-iterated and confirmed many times over from Earthforce.

Here’s the quote:

“The nature of the mass media today is such that the truth is irrelevant. What is true and what is right to the general public is what is defined as true and right by the mass media. Ronald Reagan understood that the facts are not relevant. The media reported what he said as fact. Follow-up investigation was “old news.” A headline comment on Monday’s newspaper far outweighs the revelation of inaccuracy revealed in a small box inside the paper on Tuesday or Wednesday. If you do not know an answer, a fact, or a statistic, then simply follow the example of an American President and do as Ronald Reagan did—make it up on the spot and deliver the information confidently and without hesitation.”

Before you say anything dumb like it was taken out of context – he has said this again and again in subsequent interviews. So, please answer that if you can. Why do you put so much faith and stock into someone that will manipulate data and facts to fit his own cause, which would include outright fabrication? Do you agree with him that it’s OK to lie about things as long as it fits your purpose?

Hufingraz, you say you like to come in and correct what you consider to be untruths. OK, I can respect that. But the person you most vehemently defend has advocated lying to achieve his goals. Now, do you correct him when he does that, or do you continue to tow the party line?

I’d actually like a serious answer. If you can’t, then I guess more titty comments will have to suffice.

OK, Cho Cho Ma,

Let’s use your own words, shall we? The titty comment was made by Hufingraz – now call him dumb for saying it. Go ahead. If you don’t, you’re a hypocrite. I want you to call him the same thing you called me for saying it. You won’t because you’re a hypocrite.

Yes, I know what an AP class is, but I also know that someone that communicates like you do has never seen the inside of an AP classroom except when passing by it on your way to remedial writing and English class.

Seriously though, you admit that you know that Paul Watson doesn’t tell the truth all the time. How do you know what the truth is? How do you know where the line is? The answer is – you don’t. So, you admit that you follow someone who has openly admitted that he manufactures data, and that you know it, but you follow him anyway.

My suggestion to you is to support Greenpeace instead – at least you know where they are coming from. That way, you can still follow your cause and know that you’re not a puppet being led by someone who uses lies to lure in followers like you.

It doesn’t matter what I do because I am not the one who is asking for followers to do what I say – he is.

By the way, I still keep asking you the questions about Butyric acid – and your lack of response is typical for someone who, like a parrot, just knows how to cut/paste from something that he doesn’t understand. For you, I’ll keep it simple, again. Butyric acid does occur in the things you say it does, but it’s a far cry from the industrial grade used by the SSCS. It’s concentrated and dangerous at that level. If you’ve never worked with it – don’t bother to comment because you don’t know what you’re talking about.

So you also think that governments will never achieve anything? Does that mean you support anarchy? If you don’t support any kind of government body, you then must support anarchy, which is the end result of no government, right?

Anarchy? Come on, I just bash on governments when it comes to enviromentatl issues. I do hate the two party system however, it never seems to get anything done.You say I have not answered your questions when infact, I did answer your question about butyric acid actually. I made a comparison, you did not like that my comparison made sense. What do you do next, say I side stepped the question. You side step the question about why do you hate Sea Shepherd so much, and what reason to you honestly have to hate them. I do think that comment was dumb by Hufingaz, but I was not talking to him. You also did not comment about your “shrivel like testicles in a cold pool” comment. You talk like a real smart person making comments like that. In reality Sea Cucumber it is you who does not understand the subject. No wild animal deserves to be slaughtered for profit. Need I remind you they sail ships with RESEARCH written in english, as big as they can fit. This “research” program would make them millions if they meet their quota. What does the ICR even hope to achieve with its “research” anyway? It can not make up its mind can it. One week they say its important research, next week they claim its tradition, then they claim its to pave the way for future commercial whaling operations. The ICR and government needs to grow up, and start listening to the world.

Butyric acid is a weak acid with a pKa of 4.82

sad th4ey shut the forum down cucumber but unfortunatly there were too many sea cucumber trolls in the ranks. All wanting a piece of the action.

So it was necessary for a good old fashioned spriong clean and free up some server space.

But no matter, while its being cleaned up we can still have a nice little chat here and elsewhere. Happy days non?

BTW is it really true that you had more than five user names on the old SS forum? Why did you need so many user names? Did you think you were achieving anything over there? What do you think your biggest achievement was, all things considered?

I love chatting to you cucumber. You are always good for a laugh. I do hope that you will join up with the new forum when it opens. Will you tell us what your user name will be ? Will it be Sea Cucumber? Or Dave? Isdacucumber?

Hows the sealing season going? I heard its pretty much stuffed. I guess thats why you are being useful on here , non? You are like high quality room service at a 5 star hotel. The kind that is always on call.

I have about 5 rowboats all ready and waiting cucumber. I’m looking for crew to head down to the Southern ocean. Hell, I figured captain Bligh managed to go from Tahiti to Batavia. Wanna join up? of course you will have to donate first but that should be much of a problem for ya should it? After all seal skins are worth about 2 dollars a pop now…you should be rolling in it.

Wow! You’re really going for it aren’t you cucumber! You love a bit of bitch slapping yourself it seems…a regular little Screaming squirt! Did you happen to forget your medication?

You are good at ducking and weaving cucumber , i don’t know why you find it so hard to disclose what your name was on the SS forum.

Got something to hide perhaps? Thats what people are thinking. Or are you going to tell us your dark, dirty little secret?

Will you be returning to the fold when the forum re-opens after its spring clean? Or do you think the new improved forum will be troll free?

As to whale meat being served in your area. Don’t you think it would be a good thing to let the authorities know about this serving of whale meat to private clientele? Or do you think this kind of thing doesn’t matter.

Because not to disclose it actually makes you a party to an illegal action. Which makes you an accessory. Which essentially makes you a criminal.

Ah cucumber, thats the type of thing i enjoy so much from you.

I love to see you duck and weave. You are the grand-master of ducking and weaving i think. I must have asked you the same question at least ten times and yet you seem unwilling to answer me. I simply asked a very simple question. What was your user name on the old SS forum?. I didn’t think it would be such a hard question for you to answer but you seem to be taking the troll route with the answer. You must realize the effect that all this ducking and weaving must be having on any credibility you have left on this particular forum? I can see it slip sliding away at a great rate of knots. Anyone who can see that you are failing to answer must think to themselves that you have something to hide…that you have a good reason to not disclose your user name openly and in good faith. Is it because you don’t want the management of any new forum to know who you were and thus effectively have you banned from the new forum? Not only that but all your bum chums might be banned as well. Its a distinct possibility that this is indeed the case, oh little squirty one.

I can understand the enjoyment you get from playing James Bond on the forums. Considering how much time you waste replying to all and sundry, it is a hobby that brings you immense satisfaction.

I just think its a shame that you don’t apply yourself more and try to help the very same people that you are claiming to have helped.

If you are ” in the know” about restaurants selling whale meat in your area, then it would be very easy for you to post which restaurants are serving whale meat on here. You can sit back and let the authorities take care of the rest. It would take up little of your time.

The fact of the matter is , however, that you have no idea if whale meat is being served or not, let alone the percentages of people paying for and eating the proceeds of an illegal industry. It is simply another ‘ fact” that you have pulled from somewhere near your nether regions and “exposed” to daylight. In short, this is a figment of your imagination.

If I am wrong, then prove me wrong.

Sadly, I can only see an epic fail coming from your nether regions.

But, i do hope I’m wrong on this matter cucumber, I really do.

I really hope that this is not true cucumber because under common law of the united States of America, if you are concealing a crime, as you most surely are, being aware of the illegalities of the whale meat trade and knowing that the serving of whale meat is in fact illegal, and “knowing” which particular restaurants are taking an active part in this illegal business, against US law, then you could well be considered an accessory.

Please note, this is different to being an accessory after the fact ( one should not confuse the two terms)

How does it feel knowing that you are aiding someone to commit a crime?

You mentioned that you might see drug sellers on the street corners where you live. If you know someone is selling drugs on a street corner, it is in fact your duty of care to report the crime of the illegal trade in narcotics. To do so would be more benefit than helping out in a soup
kitchen. You would be helping to save the thousands of people who end up in jail due to being convicted of importation, plus you would be saving lives by not allowing them to make deadly choices.

The question is, despite all your claims of saving the world, do you really care all that much? if you are stirring tomato soup in a kitchen and serving it to the poor of the city, what difference will it make , at the end of the day, if those same people that you just served tomato soup to with a nice warm crusty roll on the side, if those same people, on the way home, meet your friendly neighborhood drug dealer and end up dying on the streets because of an overdose?

I’m sure you agree with me that this would be a very bad thing and make your efforts in said soup kitchen pretty much worthless.

I like reading about others helping people out, whether thats through food banks or soup kichens. I just wonder where you find the time cucumber? You are making no difference on here other than to show what the pro whalers are made of. Naturally I applaud what you are doing.
But wouldn’t it make more sense, if you are concerned about people, to take time off, go make a little more money and help others out using those proceeds? But for some reason you seem to feel that supporting the pro whalers is more deserving of your time and attention.

Is there a reason for this cucumber? How do you think it is going to help the world to have less whales? Why do you consider it so important for highly decorated whale sushi and sashimi to appear on the plates of high priced Japanese restaurants? How is that going to help your poor people in the soup kitchen?

Saving whales is helping my fellow man cucumber. Currently right now we are in the grip of what people call the 6th extinction period. By helping to save the natural environment, people who do put themselves in harms way to stop the rape of the worlds oceans by greedy , money hungry business machines, are in fact helping to save future generations of people by passing on an inhabitable planet. There could be no more noble cause.

As far as Watsons 90k, goes…90k is not a lot of money. If yo live in a house ( renting or buying) , have food on the table, TV internet and drive a car, then you are not left with a whole lot. As far as I am aware, and please feel free to prove me wrong, but Paul Watson makes money of his own by giving talks, writing books etc. He does not make money from donations. He gets a big fat zero.

Personally i think he deserves a wage…which he doesn’t get right now. If you are a baker who does nothing to help people you can earn upwards of 3 million a year and many more in most cases. What do you think a guy is worth who puts his life on the line to save the planet?

*I told you more than once what my name was on the forum – why couldn’t you read? I even posted to you under that name – why couldn’t you read? When you asked me, I told you, but you COULDN’T READ!*

OK then i cant read…what was your name again? come on help me out here cucumber..you are so good at helping out others with your soup kitchens and your food banks and your sponsorship of ten starving kids in sub Saharan Africa, won’t you take pity on a poor blind person?

***As a senior member of that forum that was in good standing, I’ve been in contact with the members who are forming the new one, and guess what – you’re not welcome there! Per our discussions, you are one of the reasons that it was shut down by the SSCS. Don’t take all the credit though, you had some help – there were plenty of idiots right alongside you. Must make you proud, eh?***

Cucumber, I’m as welcome back there as anybody. The only people you know within the forum are your own bum chums. I can assure you that everyone is welcome to the new improved version, but my contacts tell me that people such as yourselves that contribute nothing but are sikmply lurkers with vested interests will be weeded out.

Will you be one of those little weeds cucumber?

What will you have to say when I turn up at the new forum?

When I do, ( and I’m looking forward to the grand opening…i already have my invitation at the ready and my bells on) its going to make you look even sillier than you do now, non?

Sea Shepherd has a four star rating (the best rating possible) from the charity navigator for handling of its funds.