You are WRONG. You have no right to EVER compare an organization to the terrible attacks of 9/11. Terrorist? You really are dumb, and very ignorant. Sea Shepherd has killed not a single person in their 30+ year history. Real terrorist are the ones who have killed thousands of innocent people, that comparison was by far, crossing the line.

“Sinister Cause”???
Saving whales and the environment equals saving this planet and everything on it … yourself included.
One day, you will eat your words.

yo TWIT… still you continue, apparently you missed the meat eating reference in the book EARTH WARRIOR…look THAT up… while stealing nets that he “determined” were illegal, he had them send up the entangled catch .
As for their not killing anyone, that is due to their total incompetence, stupidity, and LUCK.
As for comparing terrorist attempts to terrorist attacks, the pther writer is completely CORRECT. al quaeda targeted the twin towers, the pentagon, and probably the capitol. watson targets other vessels. Terrorism is not defined by killing, it is defined by the actions taken, remember reid? his shoe didnt blow up did it…? yet he ATTEMPTED actions that COULD have resulted in multiple deaths.. he was just as incompetent as watson, and just as effective. He pled guilty to TERRORISM. Please do tell us what LIGHTS are causing cancer… And also please do inform us as to how you determined that the other writer is being paid by the whaling industry, again, you are simply showing your STUPIDITY, IDIOCY, and lack of sense in your ramblings.

Hey, idiot. I didn’t read Earth Warrior. They haven’t killed anybody because they don’t want to! They have never, since 1977, gone out with the intention of taking human lives. Heck, their lives are at stake as well! You have NO RIGHT to say that about 9/11! Whatever, I’ll just copy-paste this, because its easier than re-typing. ‘Yet what right do you have to compare a group that has killed NO people, and harmed NO ONE to the worst tragedy to hit America in years!?! It was the only attack on the American soil (other than WWII when the Japanese Navy surprised-attacked the ships in Pearl Harbor during Sunday Church services). You have zero, ZERO, right to say that. Thousands died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. There are children without parents because of it, and volunteers who have cancer from the lights in the Towers, as they were trying to help with clean up. 9/11 has impacted such an amount of people…’ Look up the composition of those lights you idiot. Those florescent lights have mercury in them. And guess what! Mercury is toxic, and causes cancer. I have been here for a while, and there are those who do get paid by the whalers to go onto places like this, and post negative things about Sea Shepherd. Those who have been around for as long as I have know a ICR puppet when they see it. That’s right, you could be getting paid to do what you’re doing! and all you can see on that can is BE and possibly another E. What vegetarian food starts with BEE-? Oh yes. Beets! Please direct me to the chicken product.

I forgot to give you ANOTHER link to ignore…

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/mercury/properties_health.html

ahhh crud…
I hate being wrong…
I surely missed the blurb about massel being all veggie…
too bad on me…

“fluorescent lights are the best possible culprit. Mercury is a known dangerous chemical, and will cause death if you are over-exposed to as little amounts as even a CFL bulb.”

continue on with your IDIOCY – I suggest you start posting LINKS to back up your idiotic statements.

So far…you are a mindless babbler…

first it’s “LRADS disoriented them”
then “Those florescent lights have mercury in them. And guess what! Mercury is toxic, and causes cancer.”
then ” the sscs isnt guilty of anything, so what if it’s leaders and followers have been convicted of various offenses while activng under it’s umbrella, the sscs isn’t guilty”

you are very nearly the STUPIDEST person I have ever come across.

From now on, I suggest you post a link that supports any statement you make. Til then, you are a sewage pipe spewing the filth that normally flows from such.

Give it a while erik. I put in a few links for you to continually ignore, mock, and insult in a post. But nothing that couldn’t be found with a quick visit to Google.

David, you don’t have to quote everything from the ICR site you know, how about coming up with something original? We can all go to the ICR site and read their spin on things.

David when you start talking about ” sustainable resources” you are clearly quoting from the ICR handbook.

When did whales suddenly become the property of Japan anyway?

Oh, and I forget before clicking Submit.

The UN says that marine creatures in international waters belong to who ever catches them. That is when and how the whales became Japans.

How many times do you have to be told? Do you have some kind of memory problem?

The sanctuary doesn’t apply to the Japanese. It is international waters.

They are legally allowed to hunt endangered whales.

And for the last time, please PROVE that Japan has illegally traded in whale meat. And proving that one individual illegally brought whale meat into the US doesn’t prove that Japan knew about was involved.

And if you want to go fishing just outsides Japan’s legal EEZ then go ahead.

“So why is ownership of whales only given to those who kill them?”

I don’t know, ask the UN why they did what they did.

you support them… that makes you EXACTLY like them. Your pathetic little ramblings only show the true you. Another idiot… LRADS, like Water Cannons have very limited effective reach, we can see how disorienting it was by the video taken on the ady gil where they all gather out aft to high-five and laugh… Your dimwitted heros hit the “go fast” button (the throttle for NORMAL people) and dived directly into the path of the SM2. Your idea of conclusive evidence is sorely lacking, even the AMSA coulnt find the SM2 at fault. Apparently the statements taken from the ady gil crew were shown to be ….hmmmm, in direct contradiction to the video evidence.
If YOU don’t like it, I suggest you take your vile mouth and plug it with something.

you still get it wrong… I can tell you are faithfully taking your IDIOT pills daily.
1. YOU claimed they were disoriented by LRADS… if that is not a proximate cause, (not even usable NOW you say..) why did YOU mention it as an excuse?
2. 3 meters were sheared off. How many meters would have been sheared if the ady gill had NOT moved forward into the path of the SM2?
3. Watson uses the SAME tactics as those other maggot groups, the fact that he is so inefficient, ineffective, and incompetent does NOT alter the fact that he uses terrorism as his tool.
4. You support him, that makes YOU the same as him

do you need further clarification?

1. LRAD – first you say it disoriented them, then you say the “pilot” probably couldnt hear it, now you say it happened, and you accept it because they say that’s what happened. rrrrrrright… IDIOT…
2. Since the ady gil lurched forward and only 3 meters was hit and sheared off, it’s quite EASY to say if they had NOT moved, ZERO METERS would have been hit. Only you and your stupidity cannot see this.
3. You really do not know your hero.. that makes you a DOUBLE IDIOT. See this link (and many, many others) http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1217 Where watson BOASTS of his armory and where he shot at Guatemalan fishermen.
3. Havent boarded a moving vehicle ?? tell me, you really CANNOT be THIS STUPID. Do the names POTTSY, GILES, and BETHUNE ring a bell ?What a frikking IDIOT.
4. Tell me about watsons convictions (multiple) the convictions of hammarstedt and Cornelissen in Canada… we await your IDIOCY
5. One does not have to performa suicide mission to be called a terrorist, yet those that do attempt the act ARE. Al Queda ramed buildings with aircraft, watson rams ships with ships. It is STILL the threat and the use of force to have others act according to his dictates. TERRORISM… and no matter how much you deny it, your support of him and his actions makes you just as guilty as watson.

I don’t use the word idiot lightly, you just make it easy to classify you as one.

ahhh.. I see, you seem to think “sea shepherd” is completely different and disassociated from the members that make it up. Typical idiocy, sorry pookie, several members performing acts under the auspices f the sscs HAVE been CONVICTED of crimes. Too f’ing stupid to be called human I’d think, but that’s what you present to the world with your writings. You are entitled to your “guess” about how much you THINK would have been sheared off, *I* think there would have been no collision at all, It still doesnt nullify the fact that the AMSA is UNABLE to assign blame to the SM2. Apparently you didn’t go read any of those links, Also look up a former crewmember, Nyles Bauer, he has a bit to say about watson and weapons onboard the sscs vessels.and finally, your inability to recognize terrorism of one type as opposed to another application of terrorism is your problem, I suggest YOU leave this country, I support neither kind, you accept the terrorists you like. Much like Hamas prefers it’s brand over the Italian red brigades…
The ONLY failure here is your whinely attempts to justify a CRIMINAL.
IDIOT

“You aren’t understand what I am saying. What I’m saying is that Sea Shepherd Conservation Society hasn’t been convicted of any laws. The members, sure”

I understood you perfectly, in fact, if you had bothered to read and COMPREHEND above, I stated that . It is you that is totally delusional, you have no clue as to what honesty, truth, veracity, nor any other redeeming factor is, and continue to ignore reality and simply cloud yourself in a fog of ignorance and stupidity. I was wrong, an idiot is well above that position that you reside in. You are the very type of vermin that could justify retroactive abortion.

It seems like Poor little Eric has a rather big chip on his shoulder. He probably comes from the seal fishery site or something weird like that. Some Canadians…read those with vested interests…read sealers…hate Paul Watson with a passion. They will argue a point ad infinitum and if they are losing the argument their first port of call is their mates on the old sealing forums. They have a vendetta against Paul Watson and anyone associated with him because Paul Watson helped to destroy their baby bashing program and ground it into the ice…then spat on it.
The best way to spot one of these types is to see how often they use the word ” idiot” or ‘ terrorist” when tackling another person who has a higher sense of morals…they know that they cannot match the other persons superior status. So they attempt to simply cause havoc and start throwing around the old idiot line or the good old “terrorist” line hoping against hope that the more they say it then some mud will stick. Thats their tactic and it is well rehearsed.

Of course all of this childish silliness just makes their lowly position in life very very clear.

Quite funny really.

Hey, I told that links were coming. But maybe they aren’t. Word has it that Ecorazzi has issues with links in their comments. Its easy to find them is Google anyways! Did I find what the AMSA report said from Paul? NO! I Googled Australian Maritime Safety Authority, I went to their website, I looked up ADY GIL and it gave me the report. You are so closed minded that you don’t understand anything that isn’t YEAH LETS GO KILL SOME BABY SEALS WITH BATS!!! Referring to the ‘You also like to dismiss any data that does not originate with your idiot leader?’ that couldn’t be more wrong. Did I learn to drive with from him? Did I learn to breath from him? Did he teach me math? Is he my Lord Almighty? The answer to all of these is a big fat NO. My dad taught me to drive, I have always know how to breath, my many math teacher have taught me math, and I believe in only one higher power. I have avoided Watson evidence as much as I could, but if I led you wrong because it correlates with what he’d said, than maybe, just maybe, its possible that Paul was correct. I have often been dubious about what he says, but like I keep telling you, I support Sea Shepherd, not Paul Watson. The two are different. Watson isn’t Sea Shepherd, and Sea Shepherd isn’t Paul Watson. Yet you constantly insist on whining about Paul Watson even when I don’t even mention him! Well guess what? He is a better person than you. He is willing to take a chance, stand out, and change the world, while you keep complaining about how horrible, and what kind of a liar he is. I guess you have never told a lie either? When you have a spotlight all the time than they’re bound to catch you with a few lies or misconceptions in the process. Whaling goes on until Sea Shepherd shows up, and Sea Shepherd goes against the biggest one. If Sea Shepherd went against the Norwegians or Icelandic whalers, than you would whine about how they don’t oppose whaling in the Southern Ocean. It’s a lose-lose for them in your eyes, whenever they go to one place, you say they need to go somewhere else (referring to all pro-whalers, and anti-Watsons). The whalers quota was cut by over 500, and the whalers directly-cited Sea Shepherd as the cause. The whole ‘SSCS does more damage than help b/c the whalers said that they’re going out again just b/c of Sea Shepherd’ argument is bunk to me. What kind of person does that? Oh yes, children. Plus you can’t tell me that they wouldn’t go to the Southern Ocean, even if Sea Shepherd said that they weren’t going to the SO. As for sealing, Paul hasn’t touched sealing in a while, but know that sealing has been reduced, as far as activity, and is in a decline. Paul isn’t even there!

and since they only have the one side, why didn’t they find FOR the sscs version? sorry pookie, your logic is failing you. watson and his crowd are known for one primary thing and just a very few secondary things.

1. watson lies

2. watsons parrots echo his lies
3. watson lemmings invent NEW lies

sorry idiot… you still fail, by your logic any investigation that has a set of facts from only one side cannot determine fault ?

grow up

sorry dimwit…
If ANYONE in an investigation or trial presents NO DEFENSE, the convening authority convicts on the evidence presented… The AMSA CANNOT DETERMINE FAULT on the evidence presented… too bad, so sad…
You’re still an IDIOT though.

Wow, I must have hit a soft spot. I haven’t seen you fly off the handle with complete nonsense like that in a while. Mostly it was just your normal ‘IDIOTSTUPIDDUMBPAULTERRORIST’ blabber that is just wasting your and my time. Your accusations, and attempts at getting me angry, or making me leave, have failed, as usual.

Yes, I do know that when the Farley Mowat was seized that there were convictions. The sealing thing is already winding down, and was at the time, plus the Canadian go nuts anytime they see the black ships, so its better if Sea Shepherd just stays away. Though it doesn’t matter since the sealing industry is faltering.

Duh loser, I know Paul runs the joint, but there are others involved in decision making. There were 2 other ships out there that weren’t under Paul’s direct command. Your kindergarten accusation only is there because I said that the whalers excuse was childish. There was nothing childish about my Sea Shepherd not equal to Watson shpeal. Sure, Paul has a big voice in the matter, but guess what, there are others in the matter. There is a board of directors and advisors. All them + the volunteers + the few paid employess of Sea Shepherd + Paul Watson + the ships + the supporters = Sea Shepherd.

I never said that they were killing endangered species. I have never, except for maybe once a long while back, said that the whales they were killing were endangered, because I have been dubious about that as well. Some sites say they are, others don’t say anything. As for why they went to the Mediterranean, I’m not sure. Although you will be pleased to know that I have sent a query their way. Perhaps its the most unstable, or maybe there are more illegal boats in the Med. Although chances are it isn’t true that they aren’t intervening in Australia for the reason of the whaling support, I think it is possible. New Zealand isn’t going to help much obviously, so the SSCS needs a good, supportive place to camp. But there is NO way in all of humanity that I can believe that they are just there to vacation. They may not be out there right now, but it is their first bluefin endeavor, so maybe they’re just making sure that they’re ready. I have reason to believe that the SI decks are being repainted for heat reasons.

Of course you know all about kindergarten excuses, since you act so much like one yourself. You attempt to appear like… well you look like a ranting, immature loser who has nothing to do but sit at his computer and yell ‘idiot’ at everybody because he lost his job in the sealing industry, and would rather simmer in his hate than go out and look for a real job. Sorry if that was harsh, but it’s ridiculous how immature you’re acting!

Thanks for the ‘jerk.’ It makes me know that I’m working. You want to call Sea Shepherd terrorists? fine than. I support the Sea Shepherd terrorists, who haven’t killed, or had the intention to kill, since their founding, who haven’t had any government alerts, and who don’t use firearms. Yeah, some terrorists. I am sure bin laden would like to have someone who is passionate about a proper cause, although his isn’t. At least in my views. You erik are dealing with someone who wont give up, someone who wont give in, someone who is, as Jules Vern said, ‘you are dealing with people of higher capabilities, who exude high amounts of passion and passion, as we all know, always wins in the end.’

And now to finish this off, I am going to take the low road, and see how it feels to resort to your games.
Idiotidiotidiotidiotidiotidiotidiot……

again… all opinion?
no verifiable facts and links to back up your assertions?

Care to also give us your source of information that this site is having problems with embedded links?

you still maintain that sscs and it’s component members are two different entities, and that as long as you never see “sscs” on trial, they’re innocent and squeaky clean?
when your rose colored glasses get bashed off, be prepared for a blinding realization. you’re an idiot.

p.s.
count 1 : GUILTY
count 2 : GUILTY
count 3 : GUILTY
count 4 : GUILTY
count 5 : waiting for the judges to finish viewing all the video SHOWING buffoon throwing acid filled containers and laughing about it. (psssstttt.. guilty…nut that’s just MY opinion not YET confirmed by reality)

I lost my job in the sealing industry ???
whoaaaa news to me, how did you find out my occupation, I mean my PREVIOUS occupation?
You delusions are taking control, idiot may be the NICEST thing one can call you. Psychotic is likely closer to reality.
be careful how hard you pull it… perhaps you should allow others to stroke it for you.

yo… IDIOT
In case you hadn’t noticed, the postscript was used because it contained information that was not referenced in the main response. Typical of you to attempt to deflect things. You say that your links (?? ) contain facts and possible facts ? I can point to a dictionary and say the same thing. You say yu were drawing inferences about sealing?
Again, you try and justify your IDIOCY and STUPIDITY.

You really are psychotic, you just cannot imagine your “hero” and his organization as being nothing more than incompetent terrorists, and feeble criminals.

Here’s your link:
http://vclass.mtsac.edu/amla-51/Inferences/drawing.htm

Why do I even bother? You obviously don’t give a **** for anything or anybody, and obviously your IQ is equal to my shoe size, and I by no means have big feet. All you’ve been crying about has been links! Then when I try to get you to understand anything that doesn’t need link, you ignore it and just cry about the links! You probably aren’t going to read this unless there’s a link in here. Is it so hard to try and do some diving for facts yourself? I do it! I do it because I know I’ll get what I already have. Are you afraid of finding out how nice of a person Paul is? Or about the successes of Sea Shepherd? Just shut up about them! You want links? You’ll get your **** links. What do you want a link to?

Other people have had those issues with links, including your scum type. How am I supposed to attempt to prove to you that the links don’t work when you deny everything I say! IF I say the sky is blue than chances are you’re going to combat it! Just to prove to you that you’re fighting just because you hate me, I’ll say this:

Police officers drive Ford Crown Victoria’s.

Tell me what links you want you scum.

“Police officers drive Ford Crown Victoria’s.”

This surely will surprise many officers that ride “TWO WHEEL CROWN VICS” eh? Most of them were thinking they were riding Harleys, or Honda’s. Tell us all about those other departments that use GM vehices, or Mercedes Benz and BMW.

The more you type, the stupider you get. Do you have any MORE statements to make?

Once more, give it a second, my comment is awaiting moderation. If it doesn’t show up by tomorrow evening I’ll get the links posted in non-link form, so you may have to exert some force to copy+paste them. Pardon the absence. I was in a place where I had no internet connection, then I was taking care of more important things because I don’t waste my time doing this when I have other things to do!

Oh god, not another ITS LEGAL shpeal. I have seen and been in so many of these its not funny. Look, it is VERY hard for the whole of Australia, New Zealand and others to believe that it is research. Why they even think the illusion works is stupid, because they don’t even need to be a member of the IWC. They only have had a few ‘peer reviewed’ papers, and they say sometimes that they don’t have enough of a ‘sample’ to conduct the research. Never have I seen a scientist on board the NM. Just workers who cut apart, and immediately package the whale meat. Plus in accordance to the two articles, one from the IWC, the other from the Times Online, Japan has previously illegally killed whale calves. Plus Japan wants the recommencement of commercial whaling, or the ability to whale in the north pacific, and reduce their ‘research’ quota. Now, using common sense that any human other than you posses’ but I don’t think that if it’s legit research that they would cut down on their research when already they don’t get big enough samples. Japan is just playing the system. Somehow they manage to do it without the IWC board catching them. But with the benefit of the doubt, and no bias in the IWC board, they believe Japan. Yet it has also been proven that they do not need to kill whales to perform any sort of research. Lethal research has been outdated, as is the whaling fleet.

The UN Charter for Nature allows for independent groups to intervene in government-like actions to protect the environment. Including saving the whales. This allows Sea Shepherd to legally do what they do. The UN Charter for Nature is a basis they operate on. Section 21-24, bottom of the page.
http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/entri/texts/world.charter.for.nature.1982.html

Sure I’m like them. I live in Minnesota, far from any ocean where they operate, I have no idea what is going on with the idea of an Ady Gil II, no idea what the SI or BB are doing, I have no knowingly connections to Paul Watson or any Sea Shepherd member or former member, I have been on a sea-faring vessel only once, and it stayed in the Gulf/Caribbean area. Yeah, I’m EXACTLY like them. I proudly donate, and support Sea Shepherd. Regardless, I haven’t not gotten something back. They have provided me items in return, so it was more like a business transaction than a donation. Even if there was a large markup to make it look like a donation, Apple needs to pay about $250 to make an iphone, but the phone itself (no contract, no upgrades) sells for $600. A markup that is more than double the cost it is to make it, so obviously, markups are business, so that explains the larger than average price for the merchandise I got.

And thank you very much for fully reading my post, and sounding a bit more mature in that post.

Why the sudden wrath? I didn’t say anything to you about how immature you truly are, in fact I complimented you! Why combat a compliment with just a attack!?!

Read Dr. Stephens 2nd thing down. Like he says, word by word:

“Now, Sea Shepherd is absolutely right in terms of emphasizing the importance of the World Charter for Nature, but it only gets them so far. It tells us that we should protect nature. It doesn’t tell us how we protect nature, and it certainly doesn’t tell us that we can do certain vigilante type actions on the high seas, or in any other waters, for that matter, to protect nature. So it’s quite a nonspecific document that doesn’t really get Sea Shepherd where it wants to be. ”

It speaks in general terms, so Sea Shepherd are able to manipulate it to a possible extent. Maybe there is a limit, or maybe not. They haven’t had any formal charges pressed against them, and they haven’t had to use the Charter as an excuse too recently, so nobody has challenged them on their rhyme and reason. And if you play by the ‘It’s only illegal if you don’t get caught’ mantra, which I don’t by the way, than Sea Shepherd was under close documentation by the Animal Planet crew, so obviously they would get caught if they were doing something. Either that or somebody in power is too lazy to call them out on it, or they haven’t done anything.

Yeah, I went in to read the qualifications of them, which is why I didn’t mention that. The UN Charter for Nature regulates. It isn’t a law, but it is a regulation. And like it or not but your whole life is filled with opinions. Opinions are life. In my opinion Windows Vista is a good OS. In my opinion PCs are better than Macs. In my opinion the Republicans are a bunch of stuck-up folks who aren’t trying to compromise, yet the Dems haven’t done the best at it either. In my opinion I am against illegal aliens who are mooching off the prosperity of the US, but I don’t blame them for coming here illegally because most US residents can’t even do the citizenship test. In my opinion whaling is wrong, and Sea Shepherd are doing right. There is absolutely no way that YOU or ANYBODY will EVER shake my faith in Sea Shepherd. And as you hypocritically said above, ‘*I* think there would have been no collision..’ Yes, that is your opinion, but I guess since you don’t have a link or any proof than you are and idiot, stupid, non-human, a dumb***, and one who is lowering the IQ of whichever state you live in. And as to paraphrase a quote Paul Watson from Whale Wars season 3: I don’t care what you think of me. Call me whatever you want, but I am doing what I believe is right, and many people think that it is wrong to hunt and kill whales, and that Sea Shepherd does right by trying to stop it. And considering that Minnesota has one of the highest IQs in the nation, so I have to say, we must be the smartest state in the world. Try to stop looking in the mirror while ripping insult off. Obviously you know nothing about logical reasoning and how filled your life is with opinions.

Trolls are great. I love them dearly. Not only do they help support great sites such as this one, they also manage to keep whaling int he news, which is great as the more people who know about the Japanese commercial whaling the more pressure will be applied to Japan to stop ripping off the worlds whales.

Hey look I actually agree with David for once. You keep writing comments Whoever so I really dont understand your logic. I also disagree with your view that if people like me go away, that the pro whaling people will go away. Remember, this all started by me commenting “cant wait” and then the pro whaling people begin claiming Sea Shepherd are terrorist. Yes I agree the agruments are often the same, but I’m not trying to sway the pro whalers minds. I am trying to keep people who take a neutral stance on the issue, from taking the side of the whale killers. Its as simple as that.

Mick that sounds like a loaded question to me.

I expect that you want Cho Cho Ma to reply that you are all pro whalers and support the whale killers (ie Japanese whale killers / poachers who are supported by the vested interests in Japan including the government. even if that is be default.

I then suspect that you have a little plan to admit to wanting to see whaling stopped ( you will proclaim that you are actually anti whaling…weally and twuly) but you think that the endless cycle of talks and meetings at the IWC and between trade ministers and other useless activities are the way to go forward and bring an end to whaling for good…( knowing full well that this endless cycle is as useless as tits on a bull) …and that somehow Sea Sheperd activities are miraculously doing more harm than good ( this despite the ICR proclaiming that Sea Sheperd caused them to come back home with far fewer whales than they wanted.)

Tell me I am wrong?

julie baby…
shall we look at the general term?
“Terrorism is, in the most general sense, the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.[1] At present, the International community has been unable to formulate a universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition of terrorism.[2][3] Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal, and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians).
Some definitions also include acts of unlawful violence and war. The history of terrorist organizations suggests that they do not select terrorism for its political effectiveness.[4] Individual terrorists tend to be motivated more by a desire for social solidarity with other members of their organization than by political platforms or strategic objectives, which are often murky and undefined.[4]”

Do they use violence against others to coerce them?
Do they target or disregard the safety of non-combatants?
Do they use unlawful acts and violence against others to force their will on them?

sscs is most definitely a terrorism using agency.

p.s. no matter how hard you wish it, whales are not people, so your little statement of “describe people saving the lives of others.” is pure bunk… watson is saving nothing, the word you sought to use are “people attacking other people because they do not want them harvesting an animal”

One thing is for sure David, you wont be going to any of those places. You will be too interested sitting behind your computer contributing absolutely nothing to the world. You seem tot be showing all the classical signs of a person who seems to actually enjoy observing the world be destroyed by others in the name of greed and ignorance just as a vandal enjoys breaking windows or spraying graffiti on walls.

How long have you known about the ” poaching” of tuna by Australia? Do you have any evidence for this or did this just fly onto the page after your brain had a little spasm?

Do you have evidence of this?

“Just like in war, you dont pick a fight with your allies. If Sea Shepherd directly opposed the Australian tuna fleet for example they would lose support on the whaling issue”

you know cho…for an immature idiot, you sure manage to be as stupid as you possibly can.
The Japanese whale hunt a NON-endangered, THRIVING species, so let’s attack them and IGNORE Australia that OVER-HUNTS an ENDANGERED SPECIES because they support us in stopping legal whaling…

I can see where your statement WOULD make a lot of sense to you. You should immediately send off this weeks allowance to watson, with inflation and all, your fiver will only be worth 50 pence come friday. You can try again next week when mommy sends you another fiver.

Don’t bother sending any postcards David, i have covered most of those places myself and more. I had my own apartment in Paris for a while, for example. yes i could bore you stupid with my travel tales but thats hardly the topic of discussion here.

The big problem with the Southern Blue fin tuna is not Australia, David. You should do a little more research on the subject before spitting into the wind.

Ill give you a guess as to who has been fishing over quota for the past twenty years.

Ill also give you another guess as to which country in the Southern hemisphere ( now theres a hint for you!) have highlighted this raping of the oceans to the International community.

Thats more pro whaling strategic nonsense. Hands up in the air pleading innocence…then the line about hating liars and so forth..how many times has this been dished up?
.
“Oh I love whales” they say. ” I think they are wonderful…but i hate Paul Watson so much I am prepared to sit back and watch the whales die cruel, bloody , agonising deaths with a harpoon in their back and electrodes plugged into their sides copping 40,000 volts.. ”

What sort of logic is that?

Never mind that Sea Sheperd is taking steps to save the whales…putting themselves in harms way, tacking the big monster governments that have money and that other little thing called trade relations on their side…never mind that the Japanese whalers and their backers are probably a part of the biggest lie./ scam on the face of the planet and continue to scheme and lie and create smoke screens. Never mind that the Japanese whalers and their government backers are breaking laws left right and center, paying off other governments to buy their votes…the list goes on and on.

“So I take it you like self-righteous people who lie” Will you stop with the accusations, please? It’s the pro-whalers who have lied, as has been shown. David, police your own ranks. It’s you and your high-school dropout buddies who make up facts and stats, it’s you and your buddies who steal other peoples identities and, just like your heroes (the losers on the whaling vessels), you have no concern for the damage caused by your actions.

David, here’s what mommy and daddy should have taught you: The first step of being a winner is stop being a loser.

Why don’t you give it your best shot kimi…

I for one would welcome the chance to read your dedicated prose.

Oh goody i love poetry!

There once was a bunch of five faggots
who voted for whaling in ballots
Some liked a feel as they tapped out their spiel,
But their wangs were as tiny as maggots

What exactly do you mean by ” consistently lie” (?)

I highlight the word consistant. Evidence of this? Links?

Funny how you pick up on supposed Paul Watson ” lies” yest you are so dismissive of the Japanese whalers consistently deceptive behavior.

Not only on the whaling issue either.

Well let see Julie.

The UN WCfN gives the SSCS enforcement powers.
The Japanese are illegally whaling in a sanctuary.
The Japanese are illegally whaling in Australian waters.
The whalers are funded by the yakuza.
All anti-SSCS posters are paid by the ICR.
Whale meat has deadly levels of mercury.
Whales take 20 minutes to die.
The Japanese are violating the ICWR.
The Japanese are violating the CCAMLR.
The Japanese are violating CITES.
The Japanese are violating the ATS.
The Japanese are illegally selling the whale meat.
Japan is stockpiling large quantities of whale meat.
Paul Watson has never been convicted of a felony.

There is a non-comprehensive list of the lies that are consistently repeated by SSCS supporters.

“Sorry imconstantlyfailing, your wrong again.”

No need to apologize…I haven’t been wrong yet…you certainly haven’t been doing your job highlighting if i have been…as for constantly failing, thats just a pro Japanese bum chum ruse for the weak minded who have nothing to say.

“The ‘review’ you talk about was years ago and was done as a stunt for a TV show.”

I didn’t see any stunt men..I’m not sure which show you were watching… and the program took the issue seriously. A couple of years ago or last week is irrelevant. Because the issues remain the same its recent enough and is still relevant by anyone’s standards.

“Also Article VIII doesn’t define research, doesn’t limit research, doesn’t say how much research has to be done and doesn’t require peer review.”

Any non peer reviewed studies are not to be taken seriously. Sorry. Your comments only highlight what a shambles article V111 is. Its time it got a good review. Australia might just give it the review it so surely needs.

So Japan shows they do research, it could be whether whale cooks faster in peanut oil or canola

Yes thats right, which just provides a better case for the Australian government when it sees Japan in court.