by Daelyn Fortney
Categories: Animals, Arts/Culture
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Photo: seashepherdartshow.com

Sea No Evil Art Show 2010 benefiting the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is slated for Saturday, July 31 at the Riverside Municipal Auditorium in Riverside, Calif.  The art show will feature work by noted artists including Jeff Soto, Shepard Fairey, Jun Cha, and Max242, among dozens of others.

Captain Paul Watson, founder of Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and founding director of Greenpeace Foundation, will be on hand as the featured speaker to discuss “the state of affairs in the Oceans of the world.”

Other notables in attendance will be Michelle Rodriguez, Matt Costa, Tim Kasher, and The Crystal Method.

VIP tickets, which include a Sea No Evil t-shirt and a Sea No Evil poster signed by Capt. Watson, are available for $110. Otherwise, entrance can be had with a $20 donation at the door.

For more information visit www.seashepherdartshow.com.

  • sea shepherd supporter

    GO SEA SHEPHERD!!! Hope you raise a lot of money!!!

  • http://www.babyganics.com Linda Sullivan

    Art for the conservation of these magnificent species. Thanks Sea Shepherd for your courage and your initiative :)

    • crumpets are yummy

      What a great idea, I do hope that sea Shepherd manage to raise some much needed funds to help in their noble causes.

  • Kimitake Hiraoka

    “Captain Paul Watson… founding director of Greenpeace Foundation”

    Oh c’mon now Daelyn, that’s a little cheeky isn’t it? He’s not a captain and you know it. What you also know is that he was thrown out of Greenpeace for being a violent and self-promoting lunatic.

    You needn’t lie for Watson – he does enough lying for the both of you.

    • From MN, with hope…

      We’ve been through this before. Captain is a nickname that he has earned while doing his work. It’s a sign of respect, and even YOU call him ‘Captain’ from time to time.

      • David

        You don’t ‘earn’ nicknames.

        A nickname is a descriptive name given in place of or in addition to the official name of a person. A nickname is sometimes considered desirable, symbolizing a form of acceptance, but can often be a form of ridicule.

        There are a number of other nicknames he has been given, so you wouldn’t mind people using those nicknames?

      • From MN, with hope…

        Well nickname is what was said, title of respect is what I meant. Of course you aren’t going to accept that, but millions worldwide respect the man. If you aren’t one of them, than don’t call him Captain Watson.

      • David

        A title of respect for a ‘captain’ who can’t control and train his crew in basic seamanship?

      • From MN, with hope…

        Look, that’s what he’s called. Get over it. He controls his crew very well, and is admired my thousands if not millions. He and his recurring crew train the volunteers best they can, but what goes on on the Bob Barker isn’t Paul’s direct fault. Look to the man who is in charge of the boat before you look to the man who is in control of both.

      • David

        Neither crew could properly tie off a RHIB and thus they destroyed a $100,000 boat all by themselves without any help from the Japanese.

        Yeah they sure train the crew really well. They can’t even tie a rope and keep a watch.

        Heck they can’t even do math. Oops we miscalculated our oil usage and are about to destroy our engine if we don’t get more oil immediately.

        The Keystone Konservationists.

      • Boo Radley

        The thing i like is that all these pro whaler buffoons watch the show= more advertising dollars to animal planet = higher ratings= a few more dollars for oil for SS.

      • David

        Sorry Boo, that is not how it works.

        They don’t really know how many people watch a show. There are carefully selected people who agree to have their TV monitored and based on those people they use statistics (the same way to calculate how many whales can be sustainably harvested) to estimate how many total people were watching. If you aren’t one of those people they have no way to know what you are watching.

        Well unless you write letters to all the advertisers on Whale Wars and tell them you wont buy their products because they are supporting illegal actions. Since very few people complain or praise TV advertising, just a few well written and respectful letters explaining why you wont buy their products can have a major effect.

      • boo radley

        So by that rational David you are conforming that “whale research” is a con?

      • David

        I believe you don’t know what the word rational means.

        How you can logically claim that an explanation of how the Nielsen ratings work somehow shows that Japanese whaling is commercial?

      • Boo Radley

        You were the one that linked the two together. Not I.

        Did you or did you not say the following ( ???)

        “They don’t really know how many people watch a show. There are carefully selected people who agree to have their TV monitored and based on those people they use statistics (the same way to calculate how many whales can be sustainably harvested) to estimate how many total people were watching. If you aren’t one of those people they have no way to know what you are watching.

        You said they dont really know how many people watch the show due to these methods they use.

        You said the methods were the same ( not similar but the same) as those used by the Japanese to calculate how many whales they can harpoon.

        You said they don’t know how many people watch the show.

        The implication ( by you) is that the methods are faulty.

        Remember…you were the one who tied the two together.

        If the Japanese are using inaccurate methods ( as you assert) in their “science’, then that can only mean that the science is a sham. In other words they are publishing data that is inaccurate. In other words, their whole “research whaling”is based on lies.

      • David

        “The implication ( by you) is that the methods are faulty.”

        No your ability to understand simple English is what is fault. I never said the method is faulty. I said the numbers are based on statistics and old and well understood science. If the sample is properly taken statistics allows a good estimate to be made. But an unmonitored individual has no effect on the answer.

        “If the Japanese are using inaccurate methods ( as you assert) in their “science’,”

        No that is your assertion, which if it was true would mean that all polling, the Census and drug of new drugs (just to name three) are inaccurate.

        “In other words they are publishing data that is inaccurate. In other words, their whole “research whaling”is based on lies.” No it is only less accurate than it could be because for some reason the Japanese aren’t able to collect the number of samples required.

      • David

        Should have been “testing of new drugs”

        I really wish this site had an edit function.

      • Romika3

        Sorry, but Watson does have his captians’ ticket and the term “Captain” as a nickname does not cut the cheese. Botton line, he is does not have the paper work and therefore does not deserve captain status.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621703954 mike downs

        David,the only good thing I see you and you TROLL friends is “I wish this site had a edit function” Absolutely right,so TROLLS like you and Boo could be deleted

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=621703954 mike downs

        Sorry for the type -os…you and BOB…and as far as terrorists go~YOU are the terrorists,go away TROLLS!! Stop WHALING!!!!

    • sea shepherd supporter

      Paul Watson was voted out of the Greenpeace’s Board of Directors not Greenpeace it’s self he left greenpeace on his own to start Sea Shepherd…

    • crumpets are yummy

      Captain Watson was indeed a founding director of Greenpeace.

      Just because he now runs his own show does not change the fact of the matter.

  • Bob

    Hope they get their just desserts for supporting eco-terrorism. If you support terrorism, that makes you a legitimate target for terrorism.

    • The Infidel

      In other words, you support terrorism against anyone who’s not on your side.

      • Bob

        No I don’t. But anyone who supports Paul Watson and Sea Shepherd does.

      • Boo Radley

        I don’t support eco-terrorism.

        Thats why we support Sea Shepherd.

      • Jarrod

        Bob, Rape of Nanking was terrorism. Japan still denies that it happens in its official textbooks. Japan has never apologized for it. (If you read every “apology” Japanever made regarding WWII/colonization of South Korea/comfort women, it’s always worded in terms of “if our country’s actions somehow caused suffering to your country, we regret that that happened.” Note the passive tense, and no actual “we apologize for our nation’s actions.”) Refusing to apologize, and at its worst, indignantly denying wrongdoing by calling your accusers racists, is pretty much supporting terrorism, isn’t it?

        Now, I wouldn’t blame the Japanese people for this. After all, its only a handful who have political power who make such decisions. However, Bob says that ALL people who even support terrorism are legitimate targets for terrorism. The Japanese people are patriotic people, aren’t they? So if they support a government that continues to try to deny/support/justify terrorism, does that make them fair game for terrorism too?

  • romika3

    Paul Watson is still wanted in Norway after the failed attempt to sink the vessel Nybrænna.

    Paul Watson is wanted in Costa Rica for seven attempted murders.

    Paul Watson is not allowed to visit Iceland, after acts of vandalism.

    Peter Watson is terrorising, and risking the lives of, law-abiding citizens.

    Peter Watson claims to be a pirate. There are no laws protecting pirates rights, nor lives, on international waters.

    • From MN, with hope…

      Now now, Paul was not the first to call himself a pirate.

    • sea shepherd supporter

      Not according to the FBI, he has gone to the FBI and they told him that his name is all cleared that there are no warrants for his arrest.

  • romika3

    From Watson’s book Earth Force he tells his members to make up data and states that “ the nature of the mass media today is such that truth is irrelevant”. Sorry to tell you this but Paul Watson is a liar and a promoter of hate towards culture and the profession of fisherperson

  • romika3

    1978: Watson admits to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) programme As It Happens that his work is aimed at raising funds for his organization, Sea Shepherd. Watson: “You see, the seal is very easy to exploit as an image.

    • Bob

      Here’s a recording of Watson where he makes that admission romika:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_gTBDFTXE0

      • Sam

        Because it’s not like anything ever changes in 32 years. Back then, the SSCS had no money. Now, they have enough that they dont have to spend time fundraising, but actually doing good for the world.

      • Bob

        Yeah they’re so good that one of them just got a 2 year prison sentence after being convicted on a number of charges including assault. And the article you’re posting a comment under is about them fund raising. You might want to work on your reading comprehension skills.

      • From MN, with hope…

        They still need money. They can’t get free fuel, food, supplies, and docking fees. Nothing in the world is free. Back then it was even more dire though.

      • Kimitake Hiraoka

        Indeed, nothing in the world is free. Such as Watson’s “services” to the Sea Shepherd Criminal Syndicate. He draws a very generous salary from the organisation – more than four times the US median salary I understand.

        In fact, he’s pretty much the only person in the world getting rich from whaling in the Southern Ocean. Irony, anyone?

        But keep those donations coming people. It ain’t cheap keeping the fat boy’s pie hole stuffed with meaty goodness when he’s off camera!

      • Boo Radley

        Whatever Paul Watson is making he deserves every cent of it. Just as doctors who save lives…farmers who grow crops…scientists who seek and discover…they all require some money to pay their way through life.

        Do you earn money Kimitake?
        I bet that you do even if it is government handouts.

        Or do you rummage through garbage bins every night looking for a tasty morsel?

  • Boo Radley

    I think the art show is a great idea and that there should be more of them around the world.

    Romika3 and your bum chum bob…..you are both self serving idiots.

    • Bob

      The next one should be in Tokyo. Let’s see Paulie make a personal appearance there, lol.

      • Boo Radley

        No seal hunt this year bob? You seem to have plenty of time on your hands.

      • Bob

        Never saw a seal in my life, but I do believe the seal hunting season is in the spring. Over to you Einstein.

      • boo radley

        Are you a troll bob?

  • http://www.Seashepherd.org Captain Paul Watson

    Oscar Wilde once said that the only thing worse than being talked about is NOT being talked about. I have to say that I find the critical comments about Sea Shepherd and myself quite amusing. Everyone has an opinion and some of these opinions are hysterically inaccurate. First no one destroyed a $100K boat. The inflatable had a busted prop and it cost $59.00 to replace it. We have spares on board. Am I a Captain. Yes, I am. I received my training with the Norwegian and Swedish Merchant Marine and the Canadian Coast Guard. I would not be allowed to depart and arrive in foreign ports as the registered Captain unless I was in fact a legitimate ship’s master. Do I care if people think otherwise – not really. Did I say that baby seals were easy to exploit – yes I did, I was referring to groups raising money that were not doing anything to oppose the seal slaughter. I stand by everything I said in that interview. Am I still wanted in Norway? – the answer is no. Am I wanted for attempted murder in Costa Rica? The answer is no. Can I go to Iceland if I so wish? The answer is yes. Have we broken any laws in the Southern Ocean? No, in fact our Flag nation has not even reprimanded us for any regulation violations. The Captain of the Shonan Maru #2 deliberately destroyed our vessel the Ady Gil, and was not even questioned. Not that any of this makes any difference because the usual critics ignore the facts and love to wallow in gossip and mis-information.

    Bottom line is that we have cut Japanese kill quotas, negated their profits and we have the highest rated television program on Animal Planet. Sea Shepherd’s support base has grown by 126% in the last twelve months. We are stronger and more effective than ever before. We have four ships and a few thousand international volunteers. I am free to travel, I have no criminal record and I represent my clients – the whales, the turtles, the seals and the fish. The opinions of those who disagree with us mean absolutely nothing.

    But I do appreciate that they keep talking about us. It helps to keep us controversial and current and the debates are good for our cause and for the ratings of Whale Wars.

    • Michael Raymer

      Thank you Paul, it’s always good to hear from you. I know you drop in here occasionally so I’m sure you know that most of these detractors are just kids who see an easy flame opportunity and use it solely for that reason. I am actually fascinated by their mentality, so I drop in here every couple of days to get a good laugh. It’s like the Jerry Springer show handed out computers that had this website on their favorites list.

      Keep up the good work, stay safe, make it happen. Once I get this irritating period of transition in my life taken care of, I look forward to sending some love in the form of a check. Thanx again for stopping in.

      • David

        But Paul has said on numerous occasions he doesn’t care about the ‘trolls’ and they should be ignored, yet he continues to respond to them.

        Oh, highest rate show on a third rate cable channel. That rating would get you canceled after one episode on most channels.

        Registered ship’s master and Captain are two different things.

        The $100,000 came from a statement by your crew.

        “…in fact our Flag nation has not even reprimanded us for any regulation violations.” So then the Japanese must not be breaking any laws either thanks for clearing that up.

      • Imforthewhales

        David you do realize don’t you , that the japanese are operating their commercial whaling after bing held accountable for illegal actions in the Australian federal court? If they enter an Australian port guess who is going to be arrested?

        Ill give yo a hint…it aint Sea Shepherd…

        The japanese are due to appear in the ICJ after The federal government lodged a formal application with the International Court of Justice to challenge Japanese whaling in Antarctic waters.

        Please note…it is the japanese, not SS, that will be heading to the Hague.

        The Japanese commercial whalers are operating in violation of a ban on commercial whaling that has been on place since the 80′s.

        The Japanese commercial whalers are involved in an embezzlement scandal reaching from the flensing deck of the Nisshin Maru, right up the chain of command to the Institute of Cetacean Research (ICR) and even into the Japanese parliament.

        The Japanese are law breakers…they even refuell inside the whale sanctuary which is of course illegal.

        It is the Japanese commercial whalers, not Sea Shepherd, that are due in court.

        BTW…can you point out to me which particular posters here are the trolls?

        Are you one of them?

      • David

        Do you know who will be arrested if the Steve Irwin enters a Japanese port? I’ll give you a hint…it isn’t the captain of the Shonan Maru.

        I believe you mean to complain about refuel below 60 degrees in the Antarctic Treaty Zone rather than the sanctuary, of course refueling isn’t illegal in either one just another SSCS lie.

        You would have to ask Paul to tell you who the trolls are, it is his usual claim.

      • Imforthewhales

        Sea Shepherd, last time I looked, do not travel to Japan…unless your name is Pete and are being used as a scapegoat and have had your ship sunk by outlaw whalers.

      • David

        Is it surprising that Michael equates love with money?

      • Imforthewhales

        You love whaling don’t you david?

      • David

        I have never been whaling, so no I don’t love whaling.

      • Imforthewhales

        So you are in this just for the money then David?

      • David

        You comment makes no sense, iamforthefails.

        Of course that applies to most of your posts, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

      • Imforthewhales

        Most people are into things that they either love or have money coming their way out of it. That goes for most things.

        What is your reason for supporting whaling if it isn’t or love nor money?

        This is obviously the point but so far you have skirted my inquiry with another pro whaling insult from the handbook of pro whaling insults of which most pro whalers have a copy. Of course I realize that this is standard pro whaling practice these days so it is taken with the proverbial grain of salt.

        However i would like to hear your thoughts regarding your motivations on this issue.

        If it is not for love nor money, then why do you bother?

      • David

        I don’t support whaling. I oppose Paul Watson and the SSCS.

      • imforthewhales

        So you don’t support whaling…why are you so anti Paul Watson/ Sea Shepherd?

        There has to be a reason…obviously your passion does not have anything to do with whales.

    • W Jackson

      “First no one destroyed a $100K boat. The inflatable had a busted prop and it cost $59.00 to replace it.”

      The $100K reference was to the snazzy new boat with the twins that wouldn’t start after being drenched with salt water. It was the other inflatable was the single engine craft. Good to see that it only needed a replacement prop; that kind of abuse usually leads to more extensive damage in the lower unit.

      It will be interesting to see if they are both back in operation in the next episode, otherwise, destroyed and not operational are pretty much the same thing to your campaign. In either case it’s a resource no longer available.

      Just a suggestion for the future; a little cheap chaffing gear and a simple periodic watch on the small boats would have avoided the extensive damage they suffered.

      Also, while I know using “volunteers” is one of your trade marks, they seem to be making things more difficult then necessary and expensive for the donors. The recovery of the boat on the rocks was great comedy but lousy seamanship.

      • Mark L

        the “new boat with the twins” has actually been there since the days the vessel was known as the Westra. She has however received a re-powering since.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Paul Watson, it is said, prefers volunteers, even if they are not as professional as some might like.
        he prefers volunteers because they are people of passion, and in the end people of passion will always do a better job.

      • David

        I thought he wanted volunteers because then he doesn’t have to worry about anybody questioning his decisions.

    • romika3

      Paul Watson did not write this. If you compare this style with Watson’s “rants” on the SSCS web page you will clearly see that there is no comparison. Watson’s writings are full of hate towards the common fisherman and we doubt he has the education to know who Oscar Wilde is. SSCS is a terrorist organization using terrorist methods and “whale wars” is sending a message to youth that terror and violence is acceptable. SSCS methods are unacceptable.

      • Cho cho ma

        He did write it. I had the same reaction myself on a prior occasion but the staff at ecorazzi confirmed it was actually him.

      • Michael Raymer

        It’s the pro-whaling crowd that likes to steal other people’s identities, as we have seen in the past.

      • romika3

        This is not Paul Watson’s writing. In his commentary, on the SSCS web page, the average paragraph has 1-2 sentences (he is not capable of any more) and usually there is an comment that demonizes a culture.

      • Michael Raymer

        OK, even if what you say is true, who cares? You pro-whalers have stolen peoples identities, you lie constantly, you obfuscate and distort the truth constantly. Now you wring your hands and cry like a little wuss because you think someone else is using your tactics. Being called a liar by a liar really doesn’t keep me awake at night.

      • Imforthewhales

        Romika3…another epic fail…

      • romika3

        Sounds like you describing SSCS, PETA and HSUS

    • http://www.ecorazzi.com Michael d'Estries

      As an Ecorazzi admin, I can confirm that this is Paul Watson.

    • Mick

      @Paul Watson

      “Am I a Captain. Yes, I am. I received my TRAINING with the Norwegian and Swedish Merchant Marine and the Canadian Coast Guard.”

      An interesting choice of words. You say you received “training” but you don’t mention receiving a license. You also fail to mention what kind of “training” you received. Many people receive “training” in the USN, for instance, yet they do not claim to be captains.

      “Have we broken any laws in the Southern Ocean? No..”

      It appears you have forgotten the recent conviction of Pete Bethune for assult.

      “The Captain of the Shonan Maru #2…. was not even questioned.”

      You are quite incorrect. The captain and crew of the SM#2 were indeed questioned by the JCG when the SM#2 arrived in port.

      “..we have cut Japanese kill quotas, negated their profits..”

      The ICR has never made a profit due to the fact that they are conducting research. For 10 years, during JARPA I, the ICR’s quota was 440 whales. They increased their quota to 850 whales for JARPA II. Their total this year was 506 whales, I believe. Which is still higher than the earlier quota of 440 whales. Which would mean that if they were making a profit during JARPA I, as you claim, they would STILL be making a profit this year, as well.

      “we have the highest rated television program on Animal Planet”

      Good for you. The TV show JACKASS was popular, too. What’s your point?

      “But I do appreciate that they keep talking about us.”

      Which is in no small part due to the fact that you continuously make misleading, incorrect and false statements in a cynical ploy to stir up controversy and donations; as you well know.

      • Whitefish

        Mick wrote:
        “It appears you have forgotten the recent conviction of Pete Bethune for assult.”

        Do you mean the conviction by a Japanese kangaroo court where justice is just a figment of somebody’s imagination? Do you mean the court where 99% of those brought before the court are found guilty by a court system where judges are promoted to higher positions based upon their conviction rates? Or is there some other legitimate court where Pete was convicted of assault? Surely if you are referring to the Japanese kangaroo court, you did so in jest.

      • From MN, with hope…

        Plus it was just Pete who was convicted, not Sea Shepherd.

      • Mick

        Pete Bethune was a member of SS when he committed the crime of assault. He committed this crime in behalf of, with the assistance of and under the direction of SS.

      • From MN, with hope…

        Yes, he was a member, but Sea Shepherd conservation Society hasn’t had any charges pressed against them. Their members have. Sea Shepherd hasn’t been blamed for the bogus assault charge. SSCS has NOT been convicted. Pete Bethune HAS been convicted.

      • Mick

        @From Mn, with hope

        “Yes, he was a member, but Sea Shepherd conservation Society hasn’t had any charges pressed against them. Their members have.”

        So, any actions taken by members of SS are entirely their own and do not involve SS? That individual members take action on their own accord and that the SS organization plays no part in those actions?

      • From MN, with hope…

        Hey, they choose to join. Nobody is forcing them on the boat. Yes, they do it via their own accord, and according to whoever convicted Pete Bethune, than the answer is also yes. Sea Shepherd has had no convictions against it (for the hundredth time…) so Paul is *gasp* TELLING THE TRUTH.

      • David

        “Sea Shepherd has had no convictions against it (for the hundredth time…) so Paul is *gasp* TELLING THE TRUTH.”

        Really? Then where is the Farley Mowat? It belonged to the SSCS and Canada confiscated it for breaking the law.

      • Mick

        @From Mn, with hope

        “Sea Shepherd has had no convictions against it”

        Just so we’re on the same page. You’re saying that a assault conviction of a member of SS for launching a bottle of acid from a launcher which were paid for and provided by SS. From a small boat launched from a ship which were both owned and operated by SS. Under the orders of the leader of SS. On a “mission” organized and financed by SS. Does not, in any way, qualify as a conviction against SS? Is this your contention?

      • From MN, with hope…

        Look, Sea Shepherd had everything to do with it, I know that. But was Sea Shepherd blamed? No! Pete was. Thus, Sea Shepherd has had no convictions against it, but there have been convictions against it’s members. Canada took the Farley Mowat because apparently watching the seal hunt is illegal, but Sea Shepherd didn’t get any charges pressed against it, just against Hammerstedt, and his 1st mate (I think…). See where I’m going with this? (Again…) There have been *no* convictions pressed against the Sea Shepherd *name/organization*. There *have* been convictions pressed against it’s *members.*

      • David

        You do realize it would be illegal for Canada to confiscate the boat unless the owner, Sea Shepherd, had violated some law?

      • crumpets are yummy

        Yes, why aren’t they being charged?

      • From MN, with hope…

        Duh David, but was Sea Shepherd charged? NO.

      • David

        So they just let the Canadian government confiscate their ship for no reason?

      • Mick

        @From Mn, with hope

        “Look, Sea Shepherd had everything to do with it, I know that.”

        “Thus, Sea Shepherd has had no convictions against it, but there have been convictions against it’s members.”

        I see. So, even though SS “had everything to do” with the events that led to the conviction of one of it’s members, you believe that does not qualify as a conviction of SS.
        What legal action would you consider to be a conviction against SS?

      • From MN, with hope…

        Oh for crying out loud! You ignorant little… Mick, Sea Shepherd Conservation Society has had no legal convictions against it, despite the fact that its *members* have. The only way Sea Shepherd were to be convicted, is if Sea Shepherd itself went on trial, and Sea Shepherd, as an organization, were to be convicted, than it would be a conviction against Sea Shepherd. I have no idea why you keep beating this dead horse! I’ve been saying the same thing, if not similar, for the past several posts!

      • imforthewhales

        mick loves beating dead horses

      • Mick

        @From Mn, with hope

        “The only way Sea Shepherd were to be convicted, is if Sea Shepherd itself went on trial, and Sea Shepherd, as an organization, were to be convicted”

        A conviction of a member of SS acting on behalf of SS, from vessels owned by SS, using equip. owned by SS and under the orders of the leadership of SS is also a conviction of the SS org. itself. In this case, pete Bethune was acting as a representative of the SS org. when he committed the assault he was convicted of. Therefore, it is a conviction of SS, as well.
        Using your logic. The ELF has never committed arson and Al Queda has never killed anyone. According to you, at least.

      • From MN, with hope…

        Well at the time the Japanese courts didn’t know that the whole ‘Pete Bethune isn’t a part of Sea Shepherd’ shpeal wasn’t true, so on that account, you’re wrong. I’m not even going to go further, if you want the rest, look a few posts up. SEA SHEPHERD CONSERVATION SOCIETY HAS HAD NO LEGAL ACTION TAKEN AGAINST ITSELF.

      • Mick

        @Whitefish

        “Do you mean the conviction by a Japanese kangaroo court”

        No, I mean his conviction in a court of law where testimony and evidence against him was presented. Where he had defense lawyers to defend him and present evidence in his behalf. Where a panel of 3 judges considered the evidence and found him guilty based on the evidence presented.

      • Boo Radley

        Is that the same court that decided that Pete Bethune should go free?

        What a major, major letdown for the pro whalers.

      • Mick

        @Boo Radley

        “Is that the same court that decided that Pete Bethune should go free?”

        No, it’s the court that decided a two year suspended sentence was appropriate for his crimes.

      • Boo Radley

        Suspended sentence/ go free.
        In practice its the same thing.

      • David

        If it was the same thing then they wouldn’t call it by two different names.

        If he violates the conditions under which his sentence was suspended, then it ceases being suspended and he is liable to serve the whole sentence.

        If he had gone free there wouldn’t be any conditions on his actions.

      • Mick

        @Boo radley

        “In practice its the same thing.”

        Not quite. The judge set limits and conditions on his freedom. He is only “free” within the legal boundries set by the judge.

      • Boo Radley

        Japan has no jurisdiction over New Zealand last time I looked unless the Japanese fisheries has bought out the New Zealand government.
        Last time I looked Pete was in New Zealand.

        Must be quite distressing to see if you are a pro whaler.

        The pro whalers were shouting for blood steak and a public execution…yet all hey got was an iced dough nut and a cup of tea.

      • Mick

        Boo, you’re post makes no sense. Please read my prior post again and try to make a coherent and logical reply.

      • boo radley

        You need to go back to school
        Mick.

      • Mick

        @Boo radley

        “You need to go back to school
        Mick.”

        I’m afraid that would be of no help in understanding your earlier post. Schools do not offer classes on ‘How to understand incoherent gibberish’.

      • CanItDA

        You do realize Petey Bafoon PLEAD guilty to some of the charges. I’m not sure in a fantasy how it works, but in the real world, in any country, a guilty plea results in a conviction 100% of the time.

        Seriously are some of you people smoking dope in a Kool Ade filled bong.

        The lower unit of the motor Matt tore up was gone, no prop, no prop shaft, voice over stated the casing was cracked, don’t know about the down shaft or the gear on the bottom of that. Just go and search the internet for a Mercury 150-200hp prop and tell me if you can get a USABLE prop for $59, more like $450 in the normal world.

    • Annie

      Oh shut up Watson…we all know you are bothered by the comments made about you and your ship of fools…

      Thou doth protest too much…*rolleyes*

      Love and kisses,
      Amy

      • David

        Amy or Annie?

        You seem to not be able to remember who you are.

      • Michael Raymer

        That’s OK. In fact, that’s the deal with pro-whalers. Who they are and who they say they are is often two completely different things. Keep up the good work.

  • Imforthewhales

    Mick aren’t you still working for Glen Inwood? I assume he is paying out considering that he is sponsored by the Japanese government.

    How much money do you think Ginza Glen makes?

    • Mick

      @imforthewhales

      “Mick aren’t you still working for Glen Inwood?”

      I have never worked for Glen Inwood. Therefore it is quite impossible for me to “still” be working for him.

  • imforthewhales

    You could be Ginza Glen himself Mick. You could work for the company he runs or have some other interest in seeing commercial whaling thrive.
    We will never know..even if you were GG you would never admit it.
    You almost fell over yourself there though trying to get a word in to Captain Watson. It smacked of desperation, in fact.

    • Mick

      @imforthewhales

      “You could be Ginza Glen himself Mick.”

      I could be Barack Obama(I’m not), as well.

      “..even if you were GG you would never admit it.”

      Even if I were Barack Obama(I’m not) I would never admit it, either.

      “It smacked of desperation, in fact.”

      If you think so, then your perceptions are as warped as your logic. Look at my post again and you might be able to discern the fact that my comment was posted over 24 hrs. later. I hardly “fell over” myself to post a comment.
      While this is all very entertaining, it doesn’t address the fact that watson’s post was a transparent collection of misleading, incorrect and false statements.

      • Imforthewhales

        I bet you posted that as soon as you saw it Mick.
        You wouldn’t have let the chance go by to get a dig in surely?

        I can just imagine you , walking from the bathroom to sit down to your computer to see Paul Watson posting on this site.

        I find it hard to believe that you would have let a whole day go by without posting.

        Paul Watson’s post just gave you the facts.

        If you want to read misleading trollop then please just go through your bum chum romika3′s posts. Now thats what you call misleading, incorrect and false statements although they are highly amusing.

        But of course, you will never admit it.

      • Mick

        @imforthewhales

        “I bet you posted that as soon as you saw it Mick.”

        “I find it hard to believe that you would have let a whole day go by without posting.”

        If you truly think so, then I regret to inform you that you’re an idiot.

        watson’s post:
        Captain Paul Watson, August 3, 2010 at 6:44 pm

        My post:
        Mick, August 4, 2010 at 7:40 pm

      • imforthewhales

        The point being, of course, is that you didn’t see the post until 24 hours after PW made his post.

        As soon as you saw it, you fell over yourself and hit the keyboard.

      • Mick

        @imforthewhales

        “The point being, of course, is that you didn’t see the post until 24 hours after PW made his post.”

        Ah, well. If that is the case, you are STILL an idiot. Albeit for different reasons than I first thought.
        Just to make it crystal clear for you; I posted over 24 hrs. after seeing watson’s post.

      • Jarrod

        “Even if I were Barack Obama(I’m not) I would never admit it, either.”

        Because you’d be ashamed to be black?

        Sorry, that was beneath me, be the racism-accusing as rebuttal tactic seems to work well for the pro-whaling crowd here.

  • romika3

    We have learned from an individual working with the SSCS that the Seal Shepherd organization who is giving the marine conservation movement a very bad name by allegedly targeting the children of sealers, threatening violence against those who disagree with them and distributing disturbing misinformation throughout the internet is an active arm of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society!!!

  • romika3

    From Watson’s book Earth Force he tells his members to make up data and states that “ the nature of the mass media today is such that truth is irrelevant”. Nothing about SSCS and Watson can be beleived.

    • From MN, with hope…

      Think about it, is the truth truly relevant in today’s media? People get lies told about them all the time by news networks. I think what he meant was that if you don’t know the statistics, it doesn’t matter. It’s just a ten-second spot on the 9 o’clock news, and the normal person wont give it a second thought. They’ll move onto the next clip, and talk about things that matter more to them, like the war, economy, and other things like that. Sea Shepherd was created to help save the whales. In fact their first major action was action against the pirate-whaler Sierra. After 33 years, Paul isn’t uneducated on this matter. If you’re worried about this one little line than I can’t imagine how much you must freak out when it comes to politics.

      • romika3

        We have a problem with SSCS methods, they are an eco-terrorist organization, Whale Wars communicates a message to youth that violence and terror is acceptable.

      • From MN, with hope…

        So don’t have your kids watch it then! People don’t realize that parenting must be done by the parents, and not who makes the TV. They are a direct-action group who ride the border of violence. They cross the line to some insensitive pricks who think they are as bad as al qaeda. The ad for Whale Wars says it perfectly: pirates to some, heroes to others. And, again, Whale Wars is separate from Sea Shepherd. If you’re worried about violence and terror, check out the other TV shows around, and be wary of any video games.

      • romika3

        “Whale Wars is separate from Sea Shepherd” no that is the comment of the week

      • From MN, with hope…

        Oh, I’m sorry, I missed the part of Sea Shepherd owning Whale Wars outright. Whale Wars is a separate entity. They put the cameras on the ships, Sea Shepherd does what they do, then Animal Planet takes the footage to the editing room, where they make a TV show. Sea Shepherd has no say in what does and doesn’t get into the show.

      • David

        “Sea Shepherd has no say in what does and doesn’t get into the show.”

        Yeah you just keep believing that.

        Whale Wars is Animal Planet’s highest rated show. You think Animal Planet would do anything to risk losing the show? If Sea Shepherd just hints that something may upset them Animal Planet will change it so fast it would make your head spin.

      • From MN, with hope…

        Well then, tell me why Sea Shepherd would put ANYTHING that makes them look bad or incompetent in the show? Hm? You seemed bent on making them look bad just because they use volunteers, and cases such as leaving the small boats in the water when the winds picked up does seem to make them look bad. You can’t tell me that Sea Shepherd would be satisfied with that.

      • David

        “Well then, tell me why Sea Shepherd would put ANYTHING that makes them look bad or incompetent in the show?”

        First, because they are incompetent.

        Second, because they believe and have said numerous times that any press is good press.

        And finally, because if they cut out the incompetent film the show would be one thirty minute episode.

      • From MN, with hope…

        If they’re so incompetent than explain to me how they managed to cut the whalers quota in half? Sure, they have their slip-ups. The boat on the rocks was a big slip-up, but in reality he’s a fricken school teacher. Obviously not the worlds best RHIB driver. True, any press is good press when you’re in their position, but Whale Wars isn’t press. It’s a TV show. If you’re already watching it, than they already have your attention. Animal Planet won’t lose Whale Wars. It had brought in so much attention to the whaling debate. Tell me, would you be here if Whale Wars had never been a TV show? I know I wouldn’t. I watched a few episodes, got interested, learned more, watched another season, then I followed the most recent expedition to the Antarctic, then got into this debate, where I have truth be told done most of my learning. If I had never seen Whale Wars, I wouldn’t be here. Now I’m a big supporter. See? It works! Of course now I find Whale Wars just a secondary thing, and only watch to see what I followed earlier in the year. You never heard about the engine troubles on the Bob Barker on the website, or about the (idiotic) plan to parachute onto the Nisshin Maru. I wouldn’t mind never watching Whale Wars ever again, because I still get enough information from the Sea Shepherd website, and around the web.

        Why is it so hard for you to accept that Sea Shepherd has NO say in what goes into Whale Wars?

      • David

        “Why is it so hard for you to accept that Sea Shepherd has NO say in what goes into Whale Wars?”

        Because it is a lie. Heck in the first season a SSCS employee was also credited as a producer on the show.

        I knew about the SSCS before whale wars and if it wasn’t for the show then ecorazzi wouldn’t have as many, if any, stories about them. So I guess no one would be here discussing whaling. Of course I would still be discussing it in other places that have covered the issues for well over a decade.

        Has whale wars raised awareness of the issue? Of course it has. But if you read a cross section of the sites where it is discussed it seems that many people watch the show for the comedic actions of the SSCS. Also many people that have become aware of the situation because of the show have come down on the whalers side not the SSCS side.

      • From MN, with hope…

        The reason you see more people on the pro-whaling side of the equation is because those who are pro-whaling would go on environment-related sites, and whine about it. I find myself in this position by accident. I commented on one post from Paul Watson, then I got caught up in this. The producer who you say is an ‘employee’ of Sea Shepherd probably was supporting the idea of the show. Producers fund and supervise. They don’t edit the show, or have a large say as what goes into the show. And since there were other producers, he probably had a little say in the grand scheme of it.

      • David

        So the anti-whalers are just to busy to post comments?

        You just keep believing that.

        And it isn’t just environmental related sites. I have seen opposition to the SSCS on boating sites, aviation sites, skeptic websites, comedy websites, etc.

      • From MN, with hope…

        Chances are, most anti-whalers have better things to do with their lives. Next comes your crack at me. Some do have the time. Others just don’t know what to do, and others get all their facts from Whale Wars. Some are on the streets, or on the boats.

        I was using the environmental sites as an example. Why are you here on this site, one dedicated to the environment, if you like to see whales get killed, and are opposing people who are trying to protect them?

      • David

        “Why are you here on this site, one dedicated to the environment, if you like to see whales get killed, and are opposing people who are trying to protect them?”

        Well I could be stupid like you imply the anti-whalers are and just go to sites that completely agree with my position and have a love fest that accomplishes nothing. Or I could go to sites with differing opinions and give those with different opinions the chance to try and change my mind while I get the chance to try and change their opinions.

        Which option has a better chance to actually accomplish something?

      • From MN, with hope…

        Well obviously nobody is going to change your mind, and nobody is going to change my view on whaling, so it’s rather pointless either way. I think that it’s good to be around like-minded people, where you can peacefully talk about things relating to it, not just be around un-like minded folks, where hate can fester. I only imply that some people are against whaling, but don’t know any better since they don’t know where to get information. Nobody I know in person knows of Sea Shepherd outside Whale Wars. Maybe I’m hanging around the wrong people, but I think it’s a good opportunity to educate them on the matter. They’re already anti-whaling, and I try to be as un-biased as I can to them, but they are already the way they are.

      • http://www.antisealingcoalition.ca Bridget Curran

        Hmmm…that’s an interesting statement coming from someone who defends the commercial seal hunt, the largest marine mammal slaughter on earth. I’ve documented the slaughter in Nova Scotia and Newfoundland for the past four years, romika3, and it’s brutal. People like you who support that govt-subsidized slaughter are the ones sending the message that violence and terror are acceptable as long as a buck can be made. If anyone is making money off the backs of the sealers it is the fat-cats like the Barry Group and NuTan Furs, the participants taking the bulk of what little money there is and exploiting the sealers shamelessly.

        For the record, the Seal Shepherd (Michael McDade) who is allegedly targeting the children of sealers is *not* affiliated with Paul Watson or Sea Shepherd in any way, shape or form. Perhaps in his own twisted little mind, but not in reality. Many people involved in animal advocacy have condemned McDade and his tactics. Perhaps you should research your statements before making them, romika3.

        Sea Shepherd is indeed currently objecting to the commercial seal hunt. They haven’t documented the slaughter since 2008 since they focus on whales, but that organization still campaigns and speaks against it.

      • romika3

        More money in Whales now!!!!

      • romika3

        Your organization is one of 17 who profit from the Canadian seal harvest a legal, managed and sustainable harvest. A population of 2.3 million in the early 90′s now 7.5 million in 2010. Protesting the Canadian seal hunt is a great way to make a job for yourself. What about the six species of seals that are on the endangered list? No money in protecting them!!! so your and 17 other organiations will let them fad away.

  • romika3
    • The Other Other White Meat

      Pull the other one, it has bells.

      For those who care about checking sources: activistcash.com is owned by the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF), formerly the Guest Choice Network, an American lobby group that describes itself as “dedicated to protecting consumer choices and promoting common sense.” They got their initial funding from Philip Morris and started out lobbying on behalf of the tobacco, meat and fast food industries, pretending to defend what they call “consumer freedom”.

      These are the people who basically claim fat is good, smoking does not give you lung cancer, it’s OK to eat mercury-laden fish, and everyone involved in an activist group is a treehugging terrorist commie who shared needles with Osama Bin Laden back in his hippie days.

      Funny how you are so sceptical when it comes to Sea Shepherd playing the PR game (and scepticism is something I approve of, by the way), but will readily lap up anything that paints them in a bad light.

    • From MN, with hope…

      Wow, really? Do you truly believe that romika? Please tell me before I go further.

      • romika3

        We know all about Watson, we have seen him in action, we have listened to his babblings on the VHF, we have received the phone calls from his members in the middle of the night, we have been spit on, we have been demonized by him, we have read is rambling commentaries, we see know exactly he works to keep the myth alive so that him and 17 other organizations can make their millions off the backs of Canadian fishermen. You arm chair environmentalists know only what you read on the web

      • From MN, with hope…

        No, you only see what YOU want to see. I see the world as it is: a ball of hate flying through nothingness that is inhabited by one species that is ruining it. I do what I can to reduce my environmental impact, and the amount that I do will increase as I get older. If he’s only in it for the money, than where does it go? Where are the pictures of him in exotics sports cars, the seaside mansions, personal luxury yachts? Where’s the ‘can opener’ on their ships? It was only on the Farley Mowat, and even then it was useless! It did NOT puncture the hull of the Oriental Bluebird. Is the Steve Irwin’s bow filled with concrete? No! if it was than two years ago it wouldn’t have gotten the hole in it, and it would weigh down the bow. From how high I’ve seen the Steve Irwin ride when it is low on fuel, it’s tough for me to believe that it rode even higher when it was the Westra. In fact I have seen pictures of the Westra, and the bow doesn’t ride any lower now than it did then. The Bob Barker’s bow also isn’t filled with concrete, due to the same referencing from her whaling days. Where were the AK-47s in Antarctica? They sure would have come in handy when Pete boarded the SM2! Everything in there is so outrageously wrong, that it is both laughable and horrifying to know that an actual person wrote that, and worse that idiots actually believe it! Paul didn’t ‘join(ed) a group of anti-war activists who attempted to forcibly shut down American nuclear tests’, he helped create Greenpeace to help save the seals! Sea Shepherd doesn’t even oppose the seal hunt currently! All of what’s in there is beyond absurd! I truly have trouble that you actually believe all of what is in there. As explained above my post, and below as well, the site cannot be trusted for actual facts.

        Look, millions around the world hold a passion to oppose whaling. Not everything lasts forever, and the whaling days are coming to an end. Nobody can extinguish the passion to end whaling. The question for whaling isn’t ‘if’ it will end, it’s ‘when’ it will end…

      • romika3

        “Sea Shepherd doesn’t even oppose the seal hunt currently!” this is true because their is more money in Whales. Remember Watson’s interview with CBC, he stated there is more money in seals than dolphins. Watson has not changed he selects based on money making potential. SSCS is a terroist organization. They use terror to acheive their goals.

      • romika3

        “Watson also has a seething hatred of the people whose livelihood he threatens. He’s an elitist who, despite his upbringing among maritime fishermen, has no sympathy for those who make their living from the ocean. He begins his book Seal Wars by calling Canadian sealers “the uneducated and the institutionally unemployed,” “barbarians,” and “piss-drunk on cheap booze.” Watson still displays this attitude to Canadian Fishermen, check out his commentary on the SSCS web page.

      • From MN, with hope…

        Where does the money go than? They don’t go to Canada because last time they did the Canadians took their ship, and two crew members were arrested. Sea Shepherd uses intimidation. They haven’t done any ‘ram to sink’ moves in years. Give me a link to the full CBC interview before I go further on that case. Again, citing that website? Wow. It’s already been shown that the website is useless.

      • David

        So they are willing to die for the whales but just arrest them and take away their ship for breaking the law and they run away never to return? Well that does seem to be their MO. I mean they haven’t been back to Norway or Iceland and neither of them even confiscated their boat.

      • From MN, with hope…

        Japan has the biggest quota, and the biggest fleet. They’re going after the biggest threat. As for not going after the sealers, well ships are expensive. Plus the seal hunt has been on a down turn recently.

        And, for the third time, if Paul is only in it for the money than where does the money he spends on himself go?

      • David

        “Japan has the biggest quota, and the biggest fleet. They’re going after the biggest threat.”

        That is great. But the other whaling countries hunts are in the opposite months from the Japanese in the Southern Ocean. So they could intervene against at least one of the other hunts with no effect on the Southern Ocean campaign.

        “And, for the third time, if Paul is only in it for the money than where does the money he spends on himself go?”

        Who says he spends it on himself. He could be building a nest egg for the future.

      • Boo Radley

        Until you get a hold of Paul Watson s financial records David, you really don’t have much to work on.

        Paul Watson has built the Sea Shepherd society from the ground up. It is his life’s work and from what I have seen this work takes up the vast amount of his time and his thinking and his money.

        Obviously he doesn’t have time to become an accountant or a doctor or an astronaut. His job and his life is devoted so saving whales and other species.

        People pay Paul Watson to do the work that they wish they could do themselves, while they go about their own life’s work being doctors, lawyers or fast food check out clerks.

        They don’t work as doctors, lawyers and sandwich hands for free, because everyone needs money to get by.

        Paul Watson is no different.

        It would be good financial management to put some away from when he is no longer able to work at saving lives otherwise what happens is you end up on a pension from the government or worse living on the streets as a bum.

        People work hard their whole lives to save them from that scenario. Why would you expect Paul Watson to be any different to the rest of us?

      • Imforthewhales

        Obviously money is being spent on ships, helicopters, zodiacs , food and and fuel to help in the fight against illegal Japanese whaling.

        Perhaps David thinks that all of this comes for free.

      • crumpets are yummy

        That link provided by romika3, activist cash.com, is an interesting read. It says on there that “neither fame nor fortune is really Watson’s primary motivation. He is a misanthrope who prefers porpoises to people”

        So according to romika3 and his favorite link in the universe, activist cash.com, Paul Watson’s motivation is not money.

        Do you think we should believe activist cash.com?

      • romika3

        Wow, really? Do you truly believe what is on the SSSC, PETA and HSUS web pages? Please tell me before I go further.

      • From MN, with hope…

        Yes, mockery. Fantastic. Just shows what kind of a person you are. But maybe I should be touched. Mockery is the finest form of flattery after all.

        Yes, I believe what Sea Shepherd says. They are much more trustworthy of a source than, well, activistcash for one. I don’t look at the PETA sites, and have only been to the HSUS site a few times. I read each press release on the Sea Shepherd site cautiously. I don’t believe everything I read on there. I don’t think the Yushin Maru 3 intentionally hit the Bob Barker, for one. I think it’s possible, and the whalers were trying to intimidate the Bob Barker, but it was an accident that the stern did swing around and make contact.

      • David

        No, the saying is “imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.”

      • From MN, with hope…

        Same thing…

      • David

        You obviously need some more schooling.

        Mockery and imitation are not the same thing.

      • Boo Radley

        David..you obviously need more schooling.

        Tell me something…was that imitation or mockery?

      • From MN, with hope…

        Mockery is a form of imitation if used in a certain way. Now, I have a question for you: are you just going after this because it’s me, or if someone like say Mick made the same mistake, would you correct them?

        Oh, and I’m actually trying to be nice when I say this: thank you for the correction. I had a feeling that it was a bit off, but the point remained the same, so I didn’t bother.

  • Boo Radley

    How interesting…activistcash.com eh…well well well.

    Is this that same site that is run by Richard B. (Rick) Berman ( ???)
    He is a former labor management attorney and restaurant industry executive who currently works as a lobbyist for the food, alcoholic beverage and tobacco industries. He is the sole owner of Berman & Co., which sponsors many non-profit front groups that defend his corporate clients’ interests by attacking their critics, allowing his paying clients to remain out of public view.

    He is the President, Executive Director and Director of the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). CCF’s 2005 IRS return states that Berman works 23 hours a week for the group for which he is paid $18,000. [1] In spite of its name, CCF is more concerned about industry than the consumer. He is also the Executive Director and President of the Employment Policies Institute Foundation the American Beverage Institute and the Center for Union Facts. [2]

    According to a July 31, 2006, profile of Berman in USA Today, his company has 28 employees and takes in $10 million dollars a year, but “only Berman and his bookkeeper wife” know how much of the $10 million ends up in their own pockets. [2]

    Rick Berman has earned the nicknames “Dr. Evil,” the “Conservatives’ Weapon of Mass Destruction” and the “Astroturf Kingpin” for his repeated use of the strategy of forming non-profit front groups that advocate for the interests big business while shielding those same businesses from disclosing financial support for these efforts.

    Tobacco industry involvement

    Rick Berman conceived the idea of the Guest Choice Network, a front group to help advance the goals of Philip Morris’ Accommodation Program while appearing to be more of a grass-roots-led effort. Berman became head of the Guest Choice Network. Berman cites an Oak Ridge National Laboratory/Roger Jenkins study that downplays the effects of secondhand smoke.

    Berman is also counsel for the American Beverage Institute, which also fronts for the tobacco industry.

    Philip Morris funded Guest Choice Network, also known in PM’s files as “Vendor #340875.” Evidence of PM funding is a check for $200,000 dated May 29, 1996, to fund “Guest Choice Network and its activities.” and a check for $600,000 dated December 15, 1995.A March 28, 1996 PM “privileged and confidential” email from Marty Barrington to Denise F. Keane, both of PM, states..

    You’ll remember that PM USA Corp. Affairs contributed $600,000 in ’95 to get this Network, organized by Rick Berman, up and running. Berman is now looking for another $300,000, principally for an educational newsletter, and Corp. Affairs wants to contribute. As of this writing, PM USA is still the only contributor, though Berman continues to promise others any day now …

    Philip Morris saw Berman as a “hospitality industry insider as well as a legislatively astute individual” who could help them achieve their goal of preserving smoking in restaurants.

    As head of the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF), a front group for the restaurant, tobacco, and alcohol industries, Berman has specialized in the no-holds-barred intimidation tactics pioneered by Big Tobacco.

    In 2000, the Center for Media and Democracy found that Berman and Co., Inc. was paid $256,077 by CCF for “management services,” although CCF did not report paying any income to any of its employees.

    Berman has written a number of strategically placed op-ed articles in leading newspapers on behalf of CCF. On August 26, 2004, for example, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution printed “Soft Drink Hysteria Hard to Swallow,” in which Berman trashed a study published that week in the Journal of the American Medical Association that showed a clear connection between soda consumption and diabetes: “Frankly, the contortions that the authors went through to demonize soda would make our own gold medal gymnasts proud.”

    An article in the December 15,1999 copy of the Cleveland Plain Dealer describes Berman’s support for Uniroyal, the company that produces Alar(tm), slow-ripening chemical (deminozide) used on apples to delay ripening until the markets paid higher prices. Through his Guest Choice Network (currently the Center for Consumer Freedom) Berman published a newsletter that minimized the risks of Alar to children. The newsletter stated, “According to the Environmental Protection Agency, one would have to eat 50,000 pounds of apples a day over a lifetime to contract cancer from Alar.” In response, EPA spokeswoman Denise Kearns said, “To my knowledge, EPA never issued that kind of statement.” In the end Berman admitted that the source of his information was a statement made by Uniroyal. Alar has since been banned due to cancer risks. In 1989, the EPA decided to ban Alar on the grounds that “long-term exposure” posed “unacceptable risks to public health.” However, in June 1989, before the EPA’s preliminary decision to ban all food uses of Alar went into effect, Uniroyal agreed to voluntarily halt all domestic sales of Alar for food uses.

    ActivistCash.com is a web site affiliated with the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF), a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries. ActivistCash.com was launched in November 2001.

    ActivistCash.com was created by Berman & Co., a public affairs firm owned by lobbyist Rick Berman. Based in Washington, DC, Berman & Co. represents the tobacco industry as well as hotels, beer distributors, taverns, and restaurant chains.

    In a 1999 interview with the Chain Leader, a trade publication for restaurant chains, Berman boasted that he attacks activists more aggressively than other lobbyists. “We always have a knife in our teeth,” he said. Since activists “drive consumer behavior on meat, alcohol, fat, sugar, tobacco and caffeine,” his strategy is “to shoot the messenger. … We’ve got to attack their credibility as spokespersons.”

    ActivistCash.com was established for precisely this purpose. It attempts to discredit activists by suggesting that there is something disreputable about the money they have received from foundations.

    Even though ActivistCash states that its mission is to find out “where anti-consumer organizations and activists get their money,” it keeps the details of its own finances hidden, obscuring the fact that its funding comes from industries that share a vested interest in attacking activists–particularly the tobacco and alcohol lobbies, as well as restaurant chains and taverns that want to keep employee wages low, avoid paying health insurance, and drive up sales of their high-markup products: booze, soda pop, fatty foods and cigarettes.

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ActivistCash.com

    • romika3

      Gee. they sound just like the SSCS

      • Imforthewhales

        So you post a link to site that is supposed to support your argument and it sounds like Sea Shepherd?

        You just cant win can you Romika3?

    • Whitefish

      Cash flowchart:

      Japanese Government>>Japanese Fisheries Agency>>Institute for Cetacean Research>>ActivistCash.com>>Center for Consumer Freedom>>Rick Berman’s bank account

      Berman is just a paid mouthpiece to do the work of the dark side. As Boo has pointed out Romika, epic fail…

  • Boo Radley

    romika3…another epic fail. You need to think first before posting such stupid links to such stupid , self interested, self serving groups that care not for anything other than making money. Sound like SSCS? Are you for real? Sounds more like the massive whaling machine to me.

    • romika3

      No, sounds like SSCS. No epic fail here folks. Here is a link to such stupid , self interested, self serving group that care not for anything other than making money. Check it out:
      http://www.seashepherd.org/

  • Boo Radley

    So romika3 you seem to be just another disgruntled sealer with time on his hands now that the sealing industry has bit the dust. It must really rankle you that the anti seal movement managed to get the European seal skin market closed down.

    Here is a link to such stupid , self interested, self serving group that care not for anything other than making money.

    http://www.thesealfishery.com/

    Must be anti Paul Watson day over there? Or is it a week long festival?

    • romika3

      Sorry, not a sealer and environmentalists and author.

      • Boo Radley

        So what is your most recent work Romika3? Are you writing about conservation issues or are you writing for Mills and Boon?

        Care to share?

      • romika3

        Sorry, can’t reveal that has my location will be found and I will then receive threating phone calls, etc

  • http://www.antisealingcoalition.ca Bridget Curran

    Regarding the repeated references to the 1978 interview from which Watson’s statements are taken out of context…I find it ironic that those who accuse us unjustly of using “30 year old footage” of the commercial seal slaughter are the ones using a 32-year old interview to justify the continued inhumane slaughter of seals on Canada’s east coast! :)

    • Bob

      That’s not what their using it for. They’re using it to show that Watson is a charlatan scumbag, not a conservationist.

    • romika4

      Funny how Watson and SSCS stil refers to and uses images of white coats that have not been harvested since 1987, that 23 years ago!!!

      • boo radley

        Funny how sealers thing there is much of a difference between a 2 week old seal and a 3 week old seal.

      • David

        That would be because legally and biologically there is a difference.

      • romika3

        You cannot look at the age of an animal in the same way you look at the age of a human.

    • romika3

      Funny, how SSCS,PETA and HSUS use 25-30 year old images and video and continue to promote the myth that the white coat is still harvested.

    • romika3

      Their is a difference between the two

  • Boo Radley

    Then they failed in their mission, didn’t they Bob.

    As Paul Watson stated previously, he cares not for people like Bob and their hick viewpoints on personalities.

    Paul Watson is about saving whales and other species from the ravages of greedy human exploitation.

    To this point in time, I have never heard a whale describe Paul Watson as a
    “charlatan scumbag”.

    Best to leave those sorts of comments and attitudes at the front door of the KKK clubhouse.

    • Bob

      I have never heard a whale describe my viewpoints as hick. I have never heard a whale say that people linking that video have failed in their mission. And I have certainly never heard a whale say that it was saved by Paul Watson.

  • boo radley

    And I have certainly never heard a whale say that it was saved by Paul Watson.

    But they have been saved Bob…for some reason you find that really annoying.

    • Bob

      Paul Watson has never saved a whale in his life. The only thing he is concerned about saving is a seat for himself at the table when he hears there is going to be a buffet.

  • Whitefish

    Bob, David and Romika would rather spend their time criticizing Paul Watson then to argue the merits of brutal, inhumane methods of animal exploitation. For the pro-whalers, it is all about exposing the alleged cult of personality. Funny I don’t see many anti-whalers spend all their time defending Paul Watson because for them, and Watson would agree, it is all about the illegal and immoral slaughter of endangered whales and a rogue country defying world opinion.

  • boo radley

    Yes thats it exactly whitefish and if they cannot criticize Paul Watson they do their best to poke people of passion who hold the earth and its natural systems in the regard to which they deserve. If they are losing an argument then they revert to silly name calling and other juvenile tactics.

    If they are truly representative of pro whalers and pro whaling nations (*Kimitake, *Seacucumbers, *Mick, *David take note) then the sooner whaling is stopped and consigned to the dust bin of history, the better.

    • David

      “boo radley, August 9, 2010 at 10:42 pm

      You need to go back to school
      Mick.”

  • boo radley

    David, August 9, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    I don’t support whaling.

    • David

      Gee Boo you can cut and paste, amazing! Was there a point to it or were you just acting randomly.

      • boo radley

        I sure can and yes I was wondering that myself.

        What was that you were saying about imitation?

        Or was it something approaching mockery?

        You be the judge.

      • David

        Well obviously you don’t understand hypocrisy. You see you posted that “If they are losing an argument then they revert to silly name calling and other juvenile tactics.” So I was pointing out that a few hours before you posted that you had resorted to the same tactics, that is known as hypocrisy.

        But cutting and pasting a random comment isn’t mockery or imitation it is just incomprehensible. But if that is what makes you happy, then be all means continue.

  • Michael Raymer

    In a post above, David says: Well I could be stupid like you imply the anti-whalers are and just go to sites that completely agree with my position and have a love fest that accomplishes nothing. Or I could go to sites with differing opinions and give those with different opinions the chance to try and change my mind while I get the chance to try and change their opinions.

    Which option has a better chance to actually accomplish something?

    I’m not buying it. This is the usual self-enabling crap that you can find in a million different places on the internet. If David was at all concerned about the issue of whaling his posts wouldn’t be scattershot, nit-picky, if-you-say-this-I’ll-say-that, make shit up as you go, nonsense. If you truly care about an issue, you’ll stay on the issue, and the issue is whaling. These repeated nonsensical rants about Watson, Bethune, etc are nothing less than trolling and trouble-making. To use a dislike of Paul Watson as a justification to be pro-whaling is as ignorant as claiming that you wish the U.S. had lost WWII because MacArthur wasn’t very likable. To use up as much space, as David and his ilk has, on Watson, Watson, Watson clearly shows that these trolls have found a cave they like and are trying to move in. Well, no one can, in fact, stop them from moving in. But, this illusion that they are “accomplishing something” is laughable. While the pro-whalers (who aren’t pro-whaling, just anti-Watson), type and type and type, SSCS has bought more boats, staffed them with more volunteers, kept appearing in interviews and continued with the mission. And all this has happened, apparently, because the donations keep rolling in. But, I’m sure that if all these contributors could just hear what David has to say, they would change their minds the next instant. Because that’s the power of his debating skills.

    Keep spinning your wheels boys….it’s fun to watch.

    • Bob

      I am sure any money raised by Watson will, as usual, be wasted. Meanwhile species that are endangered will continue to be ignored and continue to go extinct.

      • Michael Raymer

        Bob, If you are that concerned, tell us what YOU are doing about it besides sitting on your ass complaining about others. Quit feigning a concern that you make obvious that you don’t have.

      • Bob

        I feel I am doing a lot by letting as many people as possible know that Paul Watson is not a conservationist, that he is a charlatan scumbag, and their money is better spent if donated to a legitimate conservation or animal welfare group.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_gTBDFTXE0

  • boo radley

    Bob and David and all the other groupies talk nonsense because there is no justification for commercial whaling.

    But…this is OK.

    Simply because the more they talk, the more damage they do to their cause, whatever that cause may be. I’m tipping that they are just a bunch of disgruntled sealers with a massive chip on their shoulder.

    It is also OK, as Paul Watson pointed out here, that they keep the issue of whaling current.

    Another reason why they are good is that they like to watch whale wars, thus contributing to the SS coffers, and helping whale wars retain its number 1 rating on Animal Planet.

    be default, no matter how much spin they out out or how silly their pots, they are helping the cause and thus they are in fact, helping to put an end to the Japanese illegal whaling.

    I love helping them out.

  • romika3

    Regarding the comment that Sea Shepherd is not preforming for “Whale Wars”. There is a clip on Youtube that shows Watson and a crew member scanning the horizon looking of whaling ships. While over their shoulder in the upper corner is a whaling ship. The bottom line, we have major problems with Watson’s and SSCS methods, SSCS has now evolved into a troupe of preformers dancing around for the cameras, they are an eco-terrorist organization.

    • Cho cho ma

      Please give me a link to this video. Anybody can write they saw a video on youtube where so and so did this and so and so did that. Please give me the link. Until then all you have done is lied.

      • romika3

        Looking for the video now. It was up on Youtube two weeks ago. Will post the link when I find it.

      • romika3
      • Michael Raymer

        That’s it? That’s your golden gem? No context, no placement, just this piece of nonsensical crap?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-Dqj4fHmM

        There’s you response.

      • romika3

        You wanted a link, that’s the link. Botton line, we don’t like SSCS methods, they are like a wrestling team preforming for the camera, all staged and only for the money. We support bonified conservation organizations. Judging by your response you must also support PETA and HSUS. No context, no placement, just nonsensical organizations raising money.

      • Michael Raymer

        No one cares what you like. How many times does it have to be stated that the whales are their clients and no one else? The whalers don’t like SSCS methods either. And that is the point, in it’s entirety. I don’t support PETA, in fact, I have a great deal of contempt for them, so that’s how good your “judging” skills are. Maybe you should stop judging anyone. You don’t seem to be very good at it.

        Your stance about SSCS just raising money for it’s own sake is nonsense. They went from one boat to three. That is money SPENT. They stepped up to protecting illegally caught Bluefin Tuna during the summer. That is money SPENT. Their operational tempo insures that they will never get the money back on the boats they have, when they go to sell them. That’s money SPENT. So, show me these treasure troves that they are hoarding.

        If you really want to go after swindlers and charlatans, go after GreenPeace. Your time will be much better spent. You’re wasting your time here (and ours).

      • Michael Raymer

        Whalers are NOT common fishermen. My brother is a commercial fisherman, as is many friends of mine (many of whom are contemptuous of the whalers). Common fishermen do not go to sea with concussion grenades and LRADS. And these “fishermen” of yours don’t even make the claim to be fishermen. They claim to be researchers. Care to explain that gaping hole in your argument??

        You, yourself posted the link to the SSCS website in another post. Yes, their various projects are all detailed (of course), but I don’t see them using the seal hunt as a “primary” form of fundraising. In fact, without going there now, it’s been many, many months since they have mentioned the seal hunt. The advert at the top of this thread shows a whale, not a seal. Again, care to explain what reality you are portraying, because it seems to be invisible to the rest of us.

        As far as your claims of threats made, show some proof. And by proof, show that SSCS or any other accredited conservation group has asked or authorized its members to make threats of violence against anyone, let alone children. Just admit it. You’re making this bullshit up as you go and you figure if you splatter enough of it around, maybe some of it will stick.

      • romika3

        Sorry, to disappoint you but it not BS, SSCS knows that.

      • romika3

        Lets make a deal? Mr Watson, according? to one of your members SSCS is? now out the? the busniess? of protesting the Canadain Seal Hunt.? We what? all references and untruths relating to the Canadian Seal Hunt REMOVED from? the SSCS web page and products by August 30, 2010.

      • Jarrod

        Romika3, please address the issue of the “common fisherman.” The center for Cetacean RESEARCH is very clear that they are neither whalers nor fisherman. They are researchers who happen to sell their “leftovers” rather than let them go to waste. So why are you implying that they are liars by repeatedly and emphatically stating that the Japanese researchers are, in fact, fisherman?

        Because if they are, in fact, “whale fishermen,” then they actually would be in violation of an international convention that Japan’s government willingly joined, making their actions illegal. So it’s a good thing that they’re really researchers.

        Incidentally romika, you should talk to those researchers some day. Japan’s done so much great whale research, they can probably explain to you why whales aren’t fish.

    • Michael Raymer

      Typical contradictory pro-whaling BS. First you whine like babies about Sea Shepherd interferring with whaling. Then you turn right around and whine like babies when they’re, ostensibly, not interferring with whaling. They should be stopped because they’re getting in the way, they’re worthless because they’re not doing anything. You flail about like the collective Beavis and Butthead cartoon that you are. Make up your mind! If you can’t do it yourself, pick your favorite junior H.S. teacher and ask them for help.

      And, if this scene even exists, did it occur to you that while one ship is visible, they might be looking for more? Some of us more evolved members of the species are able to manage more than one thing at a time. But not all of us, as you so clearly show.

      Now go upstairs, ask mom to fix you a Hotpocket and think about what you’ve learned today.

    • From MN, with hope…

      They take a clip from another time, and place it there. Not everything is perfectly in timed order. Remember how we had video of the Steve Irwin with an open helicopter deck when in the previous scene they were talking about the helicopter being out of commission? Yeah, it was previous footage, taken earlier/later. The scene you speak of was obviously taken at another time. They would notice if the Nisshin Maru was right there. They noticed it from miles away, by just looking at the lights.

  • romika3

    Bottomline, SSCS and Paul Watson are now ‘actors’ playing for the camera, making decisions based on “potential” for footage and funds

    • Michael Raymer

      How pathetic a liar do you want to be, romika?? All anyone has to do is see the latest episodes of Whale Wars to see what an absolute tool you are.

      And what is this fascination you have with Paul Watson? You’re like some little girl in junior high, trying to hide a crush for a boy by pretending disdain. All this time, all this energy on Watson, Watson, Watson. Does he keep you awake at night, romika? Do you dream about him? Why is he such a big deal for you? What’s your secret romika? It’s the 21st century and this is a liberal board. No one will hold it against you if you want to admit to some fundamental truths. I think you dream of being someones “first mate.” Why else would he hold so much of your attention? I can’t think of another reason.

      • romika3

        Based on this post you are on your last “leg”. Resorting to a technique that completly ignores the issue. But then that is your choice and reflects your level a maturity. Perhaps your are just a ten year old, we don’t know. Bottonline we (the fishermen of Eastern Canada) have been at the receiving end of Watson and SSCS. Attacking a sector for a reason other than the mandat of their organization. Watson said it himself and this is still evident today in terms of the issues they take on the those the ignore.

      • Michael Raymer

        Maybe you need to get over it. When was the last time you have been on the receiving end of Watson? How many years? And what does whaling in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary have to do with Eastern Canada? I would think you would spend your time worrying more about the European Union ban on seal products and the disgust the world community is showing for such a practice. Either way, who cares? Where you think that your ramblings are going to affect the work of SSCS one iota is beyond comprehension.

      • romika3

        “All anyone has to do is see the latest episodes of Whale Wars to see what an absolute tool you are”. Buddy,Whale Wars is a TV show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, it is never neverland, made for ratings and making money. You are not in the real world. Get out on the ice

    • From MN, with hope…

      Mmhmmm, sure they are. And the pain in Pete’s eyes was all faked when the Ady Gil was rammed. If they’re just actors, than why did they go to the Mediterranean Sea to oppose the bluefin fishing when they don’t have a show called ‘Tuna Wars’? First you didn’t like their tactics, you called them liars, then you said Paul was a fanatic liar only in it for the money, and now apparently they’re actors. Make up your mind! At least kimitake keeps the same story.

      • romika3

        Video evidence (from the Japanese Whalers )clearly shows that the Ady Gil accelerated into the Japanese whaling ship. SSCS needed a stunt and that was it. SSCS refuses to reconize this and only refers to their own video evidence. Regarding operation Blue Rage I will perdict that SSCS will not be back in the Med. next year as our source stated that the campainge brought in little money. Watson clearly stated that his role is to bring in money and to go where the money is. Regarding them as liars, in Watson’s book he states that truth in the media is not important and encourages is members to lie and put forward false information and data. An analysis of his web page and ramblings demonstrate this. We didn’t call Watson a liar nor did we state that he was in it for the money. These statements are reflections of his commnets not our ours. A member of SSCS stated that SSCS is now out of the “seal protest” business. Remove all reference to it (dated images, incorrect data etc.) on the SSCS web page and SSCS can then rule Youtube etc.

      • Michael Raymer

        They were out of fuel, the Captain/helmsman was reclining outside on deck and the footage from the Shonan Maru showed nothing more than the propwash that comes from maintaing steerage. You people that make these claims that the Ady Gil was accelerating show your woeful lack of maritime experience. A boat the size of the Ady Gil doesn’t just come to a stop because of the wave action. Plus, footage from the Ady Gil clearly shows that Pete Bethune gave no order to accelerate or to take any action whatsoever based on the location of the Shonan Maru. No one else on board, whether at the wheel or not, would have taken such unilateral action.

        If you want to keep perpetuating this myth, go right ahead. No one cares. The Ady Gil is sunk, the Bob Barker is the boat that is going to get results, and Capt. Chuck Swift has shown that he is the better, gutsier and more commited seaman than the entire whaling fleet combined.

  • romika3

    Watson is now attacking the people of the Faroe Islands. They are the perfect target for his organization. A small group of common people (the perfect group to demonize, you can see it already on the web) a harvest with blood and guts (perfect for the video and photo components of posters, web pages etc) But what is interesting is that the havest is legal, they take sightly over 200 animals to meet the meat needs of the people. Just like cattle etc meet our protein needs. Watson states his role is to deal with ILLEGAL activities, protect endangered species yet he ignores what he says going for the issues that bring in the money and the PR. With exception for a few the majority of SSCS supporters are individuals who are looking of a cause that they can get involved in from their arm chairs (safe and easy), individuals who are easily lead, individuals who lack a basic knowledge on subjects such as ecology, sustainable management, culture. An individuals to like to tell thier friends at a poker game that they are saving the world.

    • David

      Great post romika. It is amazing that people who claim to be anti-whaling and support the SSCS from their computer, yet they are incapable of doing a quick search and seeing that the SSCS has been active in the Faroe islands this year. Sending at least two different ‘undercover’ photographers to film the hunt (including Watson’s right hand man Hammerstadt) and even sent a boat to deploy ‘pingers’ to try keep the pilot whales away from the islands.

      You would think a big anti-whaler and SSCS apologist would know these kinds of things.

  • romika3

    Watson and SSCS have been out of the seal hunt protest for over two years now. They moved because there is more money in whales now than seals. Yet they still have it listed on their web page. Perhaps because it still brings in a few dollars from individuals who know nothing. Our group whats the reference to the hunt which is sustainable, managed and monitored, legal, and one component of the annual fishing cycle, removed.

    • Michael Raymer

      “Your group” may want to get a better spokesman. These last two posts are only recognizable as english because of the individual words. Plus, they are contradictory to earlier posts you have recently made. First you claim that Watson uses seals to make money, now you say he has moved on from seals to whales. Which is it?

      Your ranting about the Faeroe Islands is just that, ranting. What has Watson done to interfere with the whaling activities there? Not a thing. The SSCS website reported it, that’s all. So now you are railing against free speech? They are free to report anything they want on a website they own, just as Ecorazzi is free to report on anything they see fit too. If you have a problem with what they report, tell them, not us.

      • romika3

        A typical opening for a response from a want-to- be member of the SSCS. You know the answer to first of your comment, the second, well looks like you are not at all connected in any way to the SSCS organization as you know nothing of what is going on in teh Faeroe Islands, thirdly what is this about free speech? and finially we haven’t any problem with waht Ecorazzi reports except for the fact that perhaps they support an eco-terrorist organization.

      • Michael Raymer

        I am not connected with SSCS is any way. But, good on you for spotting that since I have directly said as much any number of times. As far as the rest of your reply….Spellcheck, punctuation in the correct spots and actually making some kind of coherent point would be helpful.

        “More than 200 protected pilot whales were hacked to death with knives and sharpened hooks by fishermen who trapped them in coves on the Faroe Islands.

        Disturbing images show deep gouges where whalers hacked at the animals to sever their spinal cords. Others show the bodies of unborn calves torn from their mothers’ wombs.”

        “Pilot whales are classified as “strictly protected” under EU rules.The Faroes are a protectorate of Denmark and Sea Shepherd says the Danes are failing in their obligations by allowing the slaughter to continue.”

        That’s what I know about the whale slaughter in the Faeroe Islands. Was there something you wanted to add?

  • romika3

    “If you want to keep perpetuating this myth, go right ahead. No one cares. The Ady Gil is sunk, the Bob Barker is the boat that is going to get results, and Capt. Chuck Swift has shown that he is the better, gutsier and more commited seaman than the entire whaling fleet combined.”Don’t talk about perpetuating myths, look closly at the SSCS, PETA and HSUS. The deliberate sinking of the Any Gill was the media stunt that SSCS needed. They will have another for next season’s cameras. Who is Capt. Chuck Swift, a Disney character, please post the link to the name of the cartoon.

    • From MN, with hope…

      Obviously you know nothing about what you are talking about, nor how to talk properly. Yeah, you keep believing that Pete allowed them to sink his prized boat. What I saw on WW was a crushed man, a man that wouldn’t allow his boat to be purposely rammed, and sunk. As Michael Raymer has already said, what’s done is done. Soon MNZ will release their report, and rumor from the parties effected (owners/captain/crews of the ships involved) say that fault lies with the Shonan Maru 2. Yes, the AG did indeed accelerate, but those few feet don’t take away from the fact that SM2 was that close in the first place. The SM2 was trying to at least intimidate the AG. There’s no reason it was that close other than for malicious intentions, intimidation, murder, just clipping the AG and having it limp home (Pete’s theory), or if it accomplished what it was going to do. Personally, I find it tough to believe that they wanted to kill the crew, but I wouldn’t call bluff if they said it was true. If you don’t know who Capt. Chuck Swift is, than go educate yourself on the whole issue, grab a handful of maturity, get everything straight, and come back please.

    • Michael Raymer

      “Who is Capt. Chuck Swift, a Disney character, please post the link to the name of the cartoon.”

      Well, if you still need an introduction then maybe you should stop telling other people what to look closely at and go back to school. Chuck Swift is the guy who single handedly held off the entire whaling fleet, at 5 to 1 odds and shut down operations of the Nishin Maru. Just like Watson before him he has demonstrated what a bunch of punk cowards the whalers are. Kind of reminiscent of the footage of the punk coward fishermen who needed hatchets and baseball bats to attack “vegan actors” as you accuse them of being.

      • romika3

        “punk coward fishermen who needed hatchets and baseball bats to attack “vegan actors” ” Now your showing your true colours. Thats our issue, plain and simple. That is what we deal with. All supported by SSCS, PETA and HSUS.

  • romika3

    You are a typical example. Watch a few episodes of Whales Wars and all of a sudden you are an authority on the SSCS and a conservationist. What you see on Whale Wars is not conservation, but a group of youth living a fantasy. Wearing masks, throwing bottles and shooting off tee shirt guns while the money rolls in to the man with the sheep on this head. Remember Pete was on camera, he and the rest are performers just like wrestlers rolling around in front of the camera pretending. You have no knowledge of the history of past SSCS actions or their links with other organizations and support of groups and individuals who post hate and foster hate towards a people and a culture. Watson stated in his book Earthforce that the truth is not important and asks his members to lie and post false data. In a recent interview with Larry King Watson didn’t even know the population of the whales he was supposedly saving and completely dodged the question that would have let the public know that the minke whale had healthily populations were the primary species harvested by the Japanese. We are well educated on the SSCS. Regarding Swift, he was well known for hosting the Popeye cartoons.

  • romika3

    On the same issue, when an organization tackles conservation issues that relate to harvests and hunts that have strong links to a peoples culture and heritage what happens when they employ methods the the SSCS use (demonizing of culture, terrorist tactics, using treats and hate) the people dig their heels in and change becomes impossible. There is evidence that SSCS has actually set the work of bonified conservation back. But one must remember that “money” is the driver of this organization (stated by Watson himself).

  • romika3

    From the top of this page “‘Whale Wars’ Season Three Finale Brings Strong Ratings For Animal Planet http://bt.io/Fuf0 5 hrs ago”. See SSCS are actors and that’s all……….

  • From MN, with hope…

    romika, knock it off. I have been here debating for I think a year (I don’t know the exact amount of time. It was before the AG was revealed though). I am well-educated on the matter, and only see Whale Wars as video to accompany the press releases, and other news that comes out Dec.-Feb./March. I am the WORST example. They aren’t actors! If they are than where have the cameras been for 20 years before Whale Wars? Where are the Galopagos cameras? Faeroe Island cameras? Op. Blue Rage Cameras? You can’t come around here with your rantings, and just throw them out there without doing legitimate research into who you defend. Yet either way, those ‘actors’ as you call them saved over 500 whales. Wait… If they’re actors than why aren’t they paid, and don’t know it, hm? Duh money drives Sea Shepherd, ships, fuel, small boats, and etc aren’t free! So he didn’t know the numbers at the moment. Neither do you. I don’t. Nobody does! They can make all the guess’ they want, but what matters is that they’re being killed in the first place. I’m not anti-whaling because I’m pro-Sea Shepherd, I’m pro-Sea Shepherd because I’m anti-whaling because Sea Shepherd is the only group who are opposing it, and they’re pretty good at it. Tradition has nothing to do with it. Very few people in Japan actually eat whale meat. The newer generation actually is either anti-whaling, or doesn’t care. Seriously, get educated, get some common sense, and think. And please, learn to use the ‘reply’ button.

    • Michael Raymer

      ” I’m not anti-whaling because I’m pro-Sea Shepherd, I’m pro-Sea Shepherd because I’m anti-whaling because Sea Shepherd is the only group who are opposing it, and they’re pretty good at it.” That hits the nail right on the head for me and I couldn’t agree more.

      It gets tiresome, having to sift through the posts of people that just want something to complain about. Even more tiresome when they focus on nothing but Paul Watson. Even MORE tiresome when after all these accusations, they fail to acknowledge that he’s spending months at a time in the Antarctic, on a ship with a finite amount of fuel, food and water. Yup, that’s the road to riches and stardom, right there.

      But, it’s about the whales. Who else wants to buy an appropriate boat, put together a crew and go save whales? Show me. Everyone is a hero, an expert, a warrior and a poet……when they’re behind a keyboard.

      • romika3

        “all these accusations” if you read carefully you will note that what as has said about Watson and SSCS is what Watson said himself.

  • romika3

    Folks, looks like my comments will be filtered and we can argue forever on this. I think you can understand our issue with Watson and the SSCS. We also have the same with PETA and HSUS. In their tackling of the seal hunt, over the years, they have directed much of their efforts towards demonizing and promoting hate towards the good and common fishermen of Eastern Canada. If you do some research you will find the web based hate pages, supported behind the scenes by this and other organizations. The hate mail, phone calls, threats continue today. Is this the role of a conservation organization to promote hate? This promoting of hate is also evident in Japanese Whaling issue and is coming to light in the Faeroe Islands Cut a sample of comments against whaling on Facebook and Youtube and analyze them. You will be surprised with the frequency of hate comments directed to the Japanese People rather than the issue. The other issue is the selecting of a conservation issue based on its fund raising potential. There is no need to explain this as it is evident. We have no respect for Watson and his group and will continue pounding Watson and SSCS on the web, in the same way he pounded us.

    • From MN, with hope…

      For once, I agree with you. It’s wrong for people to blame all of Japan, and direct all of their hate towards the Japanese people when it’s one group that should be on the end of their hate. I don’t agree with them. I’m not fond of Japan, but that’s not because of whaling, or the Taiji dolphins slaughter (or because I’m a GM guy). The things I hate just happen to be centered in Japan, and Asia overall, and it’s all coincidence. But you can’t blame Sea Shepherd for others opinions. Sea Shepherd doesn’t have a hate for Japan, just the whalers. They have a multi-national crew with Asians and Japanese alike. But Sea Shepherd’s primary directive since their founding has been to oppose whaling. Their first action was against the pirate whalers Sierra.

      Who exactly is this ‘we’ you speak of?