by Michael dEstries
Categories: Animals, Causes.

What a difference a year makes.

Unlike previous December launches, the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society find themselves in the unusual position of waiting for the Japanese whalers to arrive on the scene. “Our vessels are ready to head out but the Japanese fleet has not left Japan yet,” Watson commented to ABC News. “That’s very unusual, we don’t know what they’re up to but we’re ready if they do and we intend to go down to the Southern Ocean and protect as many whales as possible.”

Probably around the very moment Watson was quoted, Greenpeace announced that the Japanese whalers had indeed left port — but with a much smaller fleet. “The whalers ‘are up to their necks in it,’ Greenpeace marine biologist Thilo Maack said. “First, they lose their tanker and refrigerator ship, then their sightings ship. Now they have to satisfy themselves with a halved quota and a drastically shorter hunting season.”

It’s estimated that Japan’s whaling fleet will not be able to start hunting until early January — and may have to return earlier than usual due to a lack of a refueling vessel. “The possibility of Nisshin Maru’s early return is high,” Greenpeace said in a statement. “It is anticipated that the number of whale catches will decline considerably.”

Japan’s target this year for its so-called scientific research programme includes 935 minke and 50 endangered fin whales. The quota also includes 50 humpbacks, but the Japanese Institute of Cetacean Research has yet to hunt them as part of the harvest.

About Michael dEstries

Michael has been blogging since 2005 on issues such as sustainability, renewable energy, philanthropy, and healthy living. He regularly contributes to a slew of publications, as well as consulting with companies looking to make an impact using the web and social media. He lives in Ithaca, NY with his family on an apple farm.

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  • AnimuX

    Excellent news. Hopefully, with the whalers handicapped by fuel supplies and other factors, Sea Shepherd will have its most successful anti-whaling campaign yet and send the whalers home empty handed.

    • crumpets are yummy

      Hopefully this year the Japanese whalers will go home empty handed.

      Go Gojira!

      • imforthewhales

        With three ships this year, Sea shepherd are really going to bark up the japanese whalers trees.

  • crumpets are yummy

    Ha ha…the Japanese whalers are ON THE ROPES folks!

    ‘The reduced size of the Japanese whaling fleet means they will be unable to catch more than half of their quota,’ said Wakao Hanaoka, oceans campaigner for Greenpeace Japan, which said the reduced fleet was caused by ships being sold or scrapped.

    The whalers ‘are up to their necks in it,’ Greenpeace marine biologist Thilo Maack said. ‘First, they lose their tanker and refrigerator ship, then their sightings ship. Now they have to satisfy themselves with a halved quota and a drastically shorter hunting season.’

    A majority of Japanese do not eat whale meat, leading to the accumulation of a huge stockpile. According to the latest government data available, as of the end of August, there were 5,790 tons of whale meat in cold storage.

    http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1602953.php/Japan-s-whaling-fleet-leaves-port-for-annual-hunt

    • imforthewhales

      I don’t know why the Japanese are even bothering to get off the tatami mat this year. It is obvious that people do not want to risk brain damage by eating whale meat. women especially don’t want to go within ten feet of a piece of mercury tainted whale.

      Is this the pitiful whalers last, desperate attempt to keep their idea of a commercial whale hunt alive?

      They are really going down kicking!

  • http://www.yahoo.com Vote_for_Pedro

    GO SSCS!! It too bad the Japanese poachers even left port at all but with all the issues the whalers have been having it seems as if Sea Shepherd has already won a small victory this season. Cheers!!! Give them hell guys, Will be supporting you all the way!

    • crumpets are yummy

      The pro whaling trolls are going to have to come up with something better than the muck they have been coming up with to date. Still nothing they say can take the dullness off such a disgusting and bloody industry that is Japanese commercial whaling.

      Standards are dropping within the pro whaling ranks…almost as much as the standards of the ICR …the oriental whale meat must have been on its last legs last season…now fit only for scrap metal…..sitting in a Chinese scrapyard somewhere…ready to be recycled into tin cans.

  • romika3

    Another circus is about to begin. Paul Watson beating up on the common fisherperson just like a schoolyard bully. To bad he didn’t have the intellect to confront the real conservation issues at the policy and research level.

    • AnimuX

      By “common fisher person” Romika actually means the scumbags who beat in the skulls of baby seals in Canada to sell them as fur coats for the luxury fashion industry.

      And Sea Shepherd has never killed anyone or beaten anybody up. In fact, it’s the other way around.

      Canadian sealers have been filmed attacking Sea Shepherd activists with deadly weapons called haikpiks (normally used to puncture the skull of a baby seal and drag away the carcass) among other acts of violence.

      • boo radley

        But Animux, you forgot the part also where the “common fisherpersons” ( ie Japanese whalers) aimed their ship at the Ady Gil, almost killing her crew…now that is terrorism!

  • crumpets are yummy

    romika3, you are the circus….

    There is nothing common about Japanese illegal whaling. In fact I cant think of anything less common. This is one butt ugly industry that all the fat cats in Japan have dipped their jatz into. The only problem is that now the dip has turned sour and there is mould growing on the sides of the container.

    I suppose thats why the SSCS gets so much support…to stop this shameful industry. SSCS supporters can smell victory here, romika3… people see this whaling business as the pariah that it is?

    All the spin in the world by the paid for trolls cannot wash the blood off your little hands. The Japanese commercial whaling dream is in its final days. Its too bad that you don’t have the intellect to see it?

  • ednakano

    SSCS is concern with shoter and smaller whaling ships makes less chance to have good TV material. Therefore This year SSCS will be agreesive and will rame to Whale instead of whaling ship.

    • boo radley

      How is that translation program working for you edna…still playing up?

    • josh lamb

      When are you getting Laid off?

  • romika3

    Remmember, our problem is with Waston’s methods, using terror and terrorist tactics to acheive his goals, the selection of issues based on their media and money making potential, and as mentioned previously his attack on “frontline” fisherpersons.

    • AnimuX

      *Groan* More exaggerations and false accusations.

      Throwing stinkbombs at a boat is not terrorism. Sea Shepherd has never killed or threatened to kill anybody, ever.

      Sea Shepherd is a highly rated charity because it puts the overwhelming amount of its donations toward operational expenses (ie: very little for salaries and administrative overhead).

      Sea Shepherd has interfered with and exposed the cruel exploitation of marine mammals, overfishing and poaching by industrial operations.

      • boo radley

        romika thinks that if he repeats the same pro whaling guff , over and over, ad nauseam that someone out there will actually think that its true?

        The reason, romika3, why Sea Shepherd go after the Japanese whalers is because they are industrial giants who are raping and pillaging the oceans of their natural resources, whaling commercially against the law and stealing the birthright of children everywhere. Not only that but they are causing immense suffering upon whales which are protected by law. The reason why Sea Shepherd go after the Japanese whalers is because they will not listen and so have to be forced out of the Southern Ocean. The reason why they have the money to do this is because the people of the world support them…that should tell you something?

    • eddy

      still getting your fees from the japanese public relations whores aren´t you…..give it a rest….not even a half brained one cellular monk worm believes your crap. Go home and play with yourself …….

      • romika3

        Eddy must be paid by the SSCS. This is based on his writing style

      • imforthewhales

        Keep up the great work Romika…because of you, Japan was unable to get a supply ship this year.

      • ednakano

        Are you begging whoelers to give money ?
        Just put commet and make fun of foolish SSCS supporter.

      • Chris H.

        Sorry Edna, my Japlish is a little rusty, could you clarify what “whoelers” means…

        TIA

      • boo radley

        I just looked it up on Ednapedia…

        it means “Those who whore themselves for commercial whaling interests”.

      • Chris H.

        @Boo

        Ahh, that’s what I thought, thanks!

      • romika3

        “Keep up the great work Romika…because of you, Japan was unable to get a supply ship this year.”Really, that’s news to me. The Japanese are proad people and won’t back down from Wastson.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Well maybe they like TV? I do hope that they are watching animal planet.

  • Devon

    The Japanese whalers are not even there and won’t be for weeks at the earliest.

    • crumpets are yummy

      Great news…they are already behind the 8 ball.

  • http://www.Seashepherd.org Captain Paul Watson

    I have no intention of bantering with the usual anonymous suspects. Just dropping by to update Ecorazzi fans of our situation.

    The Japanese whaling fleet departed from Japan on Dec 2nd. It will take them about three weeks to reach the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary.

    The three Sea Shepherd ships Steve Irwin, Bob Barker and Gojira are about 10 days away so we’re basically killing time and conducting training exercises in the meantime.

    We will be in the Antarctic Whale Sanctuary well before the Japanese fleet arrives.

    Every year Sea Shepherd goes down to the Southern Ocean stronger and the Japanese fleet goes down weaker. Their crushing debt and inability to secure a supply vessel has weakened them severely. Ironically the constant Japanese government and media accusations that Sea Shepherd is an eco-terrorist group has caused the whalers problems in securing a supply vessel. The companies they have approached are afraid of Sea Shepherd. Thank-you whalers for promoting such a frightening image of Sea Shepherd.

    We return to the Southern Ocean without reprimands from the Dutch government for the two Dutch registered ships and for the first time we head down to the Southern Ocean with an Australian registered vessel the Gojira. There have been no protests from the Australian government.

    The Gojira was lauched from Fremantle by Fremantle Mayor Brad Pettit and one of the crew is the brother of the former Western Australian Attorney General. One of our advisory Board members is the former Australian Environment Minister Senator Ian Campbell and the Bob Barker and the Steve Irwin were sent off by Senator Bob Brown of Tasmania. We also received a supporting visit from the Tasmanian Minister of the Environment.

    Sea Shepherd has received honourary home Port status from Fremantle for the Farley Mowat and the Gojira and the Steve Irwin has honourary home Port status from Casey and Melbourne. We have received endorsements from
    champion surfers Kelly Slater and Dave Rastovich, from the Dalai Lama, the former Vice Chair of the IWC, scientists, celebrities, athletes, artists, writers and musicians, the Chief of the Federal police of Ecuador, Prince Albert of Monaco, and so many others. Our TV program Whale Wars is the #1 show on Animal Planet.

    Now considering this and the fact that no Japanese whaling vessels are allowed into Australian or New Zealand ports and that the Australian Federal Court has charged the Japanese whalers with contempt of an Australian Federal Court order and it appears to me that the criminals are in fact the whalers and not the whale savers.

    Now for all those critics who say that the Sea Shepherd crew are non professionals and inexperience, I can only say, I prefer my passionate volunteers to professionals any day. This is our 7th voyage to the Antarctic without causing or sustaining a single injury and without an onboard fire, or an oil spill or any serious accidents. During the same period the Japanese fleet has suffered three fatalities, two horrendous onboard fires, numerous serious injuries and an oil spill.

    It’s all about perception and pro whalers will see it one way and anti-whalers will see it another way but what counts is in the long run is results and we have cut kill quotas in half and we have cost the whalers their profits for five years. We are succeeding in our strategy of sinking the Japanese whaling fleet economically.

    Now although we appreciate the incredible support we receive, this is not a popularity contest. We are unconcerned about criticism and in fact we see criticism and animosity as an indication of our success. Our clients are whales and dolphins. We represent them. We do not do what we do for people.

    I am pleased that our campaigns engender such heated discussions because like us or not, it brings people into the arena of controversy and awareness. Obviously those who are not enlightened are entertained. The trick is to manipulate anger into working for us and I think the fact that the whalers can’t engage a supply ship is a great indication how our critics can work for us by scaring the hell out of their own allies.

    The Buddhists would call this exercising the compassionate wrath of the Buddha.

    It’s all about perception and for those who whine about deception, I can only remind them that Sun Tzu wrote that deception is the foundation of strategy. And all battles are won through a superior strategy.

    Our primary objective is to sink the Japanese whaling fleet economically. Our strategies over the past 6 campaigns are realizing that objective. I am confident that we will succeed in realizing this objective.

    It will be an interesting few months. I think the confrontations will commence around the end of December or early January.

    • romika3

      Your’re not Paul Watson. Last year it was stated that you had no internet access aboard SSCS ships. In addition the level of writing in this post is at a higher level than Paul Watson. See commentary on the SSCS for a comparison. Cut and paste a sample of both into a wordprocesser and check the reading level of the two samples.

      • imforthewhales

        Romika3, you are, once again, so very, very wrong.

        Not only are you wrong about whaling …but you have incorrectly identified Captain Paul Watson as not being Captain Paul Watson.

        Epic fail >>>>>>>>>>>>> Romika3.

      • boo radley

        Ecorazzi have already confirmed that Captain Paul Watson is in fact Paul Watson.

        Poor effort there, Romika3.

        PS how was your all expenses paid trip to the whaling conference? There is a rumor going around town that it has been suggested that Ginza Glen Inwood kept his best call girls for all the pro whaling crew…can you confirm whether this is really true?

      • ednakano

        >Ecorazzi have already confirmed that Captain Paul Watson is in fact Paul Watson.
        You have miss type. “FAT” Paul Watson is right spell.

      • boo radley

        Good one Ednakookoo…we cant really blame you for the Japanese failure at getting a supply ship…we can blame you though for being Ednakookoo.

        With you on the pro-whalers side, who needs SSCS?

      • http://www.ecorazzi.com Michael dEstries

        @romika3:

        A few weeks back, Watson stated on his Facebook page that the Irwin had been upgraded with an advanced broadband satellite system so that they could communicate much more efficiently with the outside world during the campaign. I believe it’s an upgrade to the Iridium OpenPort Satellite that was on board the Ady Gil.

      • romika3

        Perhaps I was mistaken. Paul’s writing has improved or perhaps he has someone writing his postings for him. Again, as pointed out in many past posts, we have issues with the SSCS methods, using terror tactics to achieve their goals, attacking and demonizing the “frontline” fisherperson, and selecting issues based on potential media and fundraising potential. Just a few questions perhaps. Can you post the data that supports your directing your efforts towards a species (minke whales) that are not endangered will ignoring those that are. On the issue of sealing, which SSCS states that they are out of the sealing business, yet the SSCS is still requesting donations under the umbrella the seal harvest. Where is this money going to? Is it being directed towards subgroups that still continue to post hate web pages and make threading phone calls to the fishermen of Eastern Canada. And finally you call yourself a conservation organization yet you utilize violence as your primary conservation tool. Can you please share with use your definition of conservation.

      • josh lamb

        Latest picture of the Steve Iriwn >> A Big ass Internet ball on the top of it.

      • josh lamb

        @ednakano You have come to insults because you have ran out of lies, calling captain watson fat. Let me ask you, have you ever had a wife who was a playboy model? No? thats what I thought.

      • boo radley

        “Can you please share with use your definition of conservation.”

        I can…leave our whales alone.

      • romika3

        December 3, 2010 at 1:31 pm, I posted three questions for Mr. Watson to respond to, he did not because is can not, that is the nature of Mr. Watson and the SSCS.

      • imforthewhales

        Thats Captain Watson to you romika3. Show some respect.

      • romika3

        The Captain does not have his “Captain’s Ticket” therefore the term “Captain” is not necessary in Watson’s case.

      • David

        So all someone has to do is call themselves ‘Captain’ and you will respect them, iamforthewhales?

      • From MN, with hope…

        Once again david you have it backwards. We respect Paul, and Captain is his ‘nickname’ or a term of respect.

      • David

        Once again MN, you show a lack of comprehension. iusuallyfail told romika3 that he needed to show respect because Paul is a ‘Captain’. Well he isn’t a ‘Captain’ except in his own mind, and giving himself that name doesn’t deserve any respect.

        If you and you friends want to give him the name of ‘Captain’ and show him respect, well knock yourselves out. Heck call him “Grand Galactic Super Admiral” if it makes you feel better about yourselves. But why would you and iusuallyfail expect others to join your Paul Watson brown nose society and show him any respect?

      • crumpets are yummy

        No-one expects you to show Captain Paul Watson any respect David. Nor do we want you to.

        In fact, it is actually better for Sea Shepherd if you and your merry band of little men continue to poke and prod and make your cat calls.

        Think about it for a second.

        The media reacts to those sorts of things and pick up on them.

        This in turn keeps the topic of whaling current.

        All the better if you can try and promote the idea of violence or scandal within this whole whaling issue…as well as the whole idea of celebrity.

        Because then the media picks up on this and it turns into a story which you will see on the front pages of your newspaper.

        The more that the japanese whaling gets attention, the more likely it is that it will be stopped.

    • David

      “This is our 7th voyage to the Antarctic without causing or sustaining a single injury…”

      Really? Then what was that video on Whale Wars of a crew member crawling around the floor because her back injury prevented her from walking? Or the video of the crew member getting stitches to close their head wound?

      Did you just forget those incidents?

      • boo radley

        Which ons were caused by Sea Shepherd?

        There will always be bumps and bruises & scrapes , which is why there is a medical office on board the SS ships + a small hospital.

        Luckily the morgue wasn’t required when the Japanese tried to murder the Ady Gil crew, but it was a close call.

      • David

        Where did he say ’caused by the Sea Sheperds’?

        You may want to look at the definition of “sustaining”.

    • Matt

      “It’s all about perception and for those who whine about deception, I can only remind them that Sun Tzu wrote that deception is the foundation of strategy. And all battles are won through a superior strategy.”

      So you admit you’re a liar and that lieing is part of your strategy. Good.

      “I am pleased that our campaigns engender such heated discussions because like us or not, it brings people into the arena of controversy and awareness. Obviously those who are not enlightened are entertained.”

      If this is true (oh yeah, you’re a liar, of course it isn’t), then you had the Whale Wars forum on the Discovery web site shut down because……..?

      “from the Dalai Lama”

      Didn’t the Dalai Lama recently repudiate you and the violence you commit? (oh yeah, almost forgot, you’re a liar)

      “Now considering this and the fact that no Japanese whaling vessels are allowed into Australian or New Zealand ports and that the Australian Federal Court has charged the Japanese whalers with contempt of an Australian Federal Court order and it appears to me that the criminals are in fact the whalers and not the whale savers.”

      Didn’t Judge Alsop say that the Australian Federal Court had no jurisdiction in Antarctica? Because it isn’t Australian territory? And didn’t the Australian report on the Ady Gil incident say that Australia lacked jurisdiction? Yeah, because it’s not Australian territory and therefore the Australian Federal Court ruling means exactly nothing. (Gee why wouldn’t you mention this? Oh yeah, you’re a liar).

      Oh well, as for everything else you posted, everyone should remember that non-Captain Paul Watson (never had a Captain credential but you knew that because he’s a liar) has, right here, told you that lieing is part of his strategy which makes everything he says and posts suspect.

      • boo radley

        So Matt, do you think Romika3 was right when he said that this wasn’t Captain Paul Watson?

        Or do you think romika3 was wrong and this really is Captain Paul Watson?

      • imforthewhales

        Matt…the ‘is he or isn’t he” question has been covered before. If Paul Watson was not a Captain then he would not be able to leave port or enter a port.

        The other pro whalers on here know that.

        As far as I know, the Dalai Lama is on the sea shepherd side. In fact the Dalai Lama said recently that he supported Sea Shepherd’s goal of preventing whalers from harming the mammals. all he said ( via a Tokyo reporter) was that the SS activities should be non violent. Which of course they are.

        The Japanese have killed three of their crew, and then spray pepper spray in their own faces before crying home to mummy. They then distort the truth and blame SS.

        Any Japanese vessel which enters an Australian port will be arrested…Japan knows this which is why they have to travel half way home back to Japan whenever there is a problem.

      • Matt

        Boo Radley: Don’t know, Don’t care. The poster, if not Paul Watson, has his dishonest style and spouts the same sort of ridiculous bluster.

        imforthewhales: Your logic on whether he is a Captain is both specious reasoning AND wrong. Just because Paul Watson is not a Captain does not mean that there isn’t a person on board with the credential that would allow them to enter port. That’s the specious part. The wrong part is that the Irwin is registered as a pleasure yacht and doesn’t require a Captain credential. I suspect you knew this and were continuing with Paul’s strategy of obfuscation and lieing. You DID know all this, right?

        As far as you know? So, we can add willful ignorance to the list or is this just more “strategy”?

        No, lets get to the root of Sea Shepherd – violence. The SSCS is absolutely a violent organization, in fact, they owe their very existance to the commission of violence. EVERYBODY should ask themselves: If SS stopped throwing things, rammings and attempted disablings, would they be even discernable from any other conservation organization, like GreenPeace? The answer is obvious. NO! Without the violence that Paul and his group commit, there is no SSCS and there certainly is no Whale Wars TV show.

        All your last point on Japanese WHALING vessels (I assume that’s what you meant since vessels from Japan enter and exit Australian ports every single hour of every single day) proves is my exact point. Australian federal law covers the territory of Australia (such as, their ports). It does not cover the area where the whalers are operating. Thank you for proving my point imforthewhales.

      • imforthewhales

        Matt…there are no ports in Antarctica.

        japan has a long history of entering the waters of other countries.

        for instance in the United States, the “ordinary every day” fishermen are AGAINST the Japanese Fishing Fleet. The Japanese fishing fleet was found to be victimizing American Fishermen, their livelihoods and families. In a ruse by the Japanese Fishing Fleet that was found to be stretching back years, the ECONOMIST investigative reporters found that the Japanese Fishing Fleet was systematically coming into U.S. territorial waters (Japan illegally invading sovereign American territory) and violating fishing quotas taking more fish than allowed in illegal fishing operations. The Japanese then short-changed U.S. Fishermen, and then turned around and sold the excess fish back as if it were part of the allowed quota, and also dumped it at below-market prices, thereby scuttling the profits of American fishermen who depended upon it for their livelihood and to put food on the table for their families and children. Also the U.S. Coast Guard has engaged the Japanese Fleet and warned them to stay out of U.S. fisheries waters in more than 15 such incidents, wherein the Japanese enter U.S. waters, poach, and then flee outside the territorial limit when they see the Coast Guard cutters approaching. The Japanese then sit just out of the limit and laugh and scoff at U.S. military personnel and then simply wait until the ship has to leave to take care of a real emergency rescue and then the Japanese Fishing Fleet sneaks back in and poaches more fish again. This was all logged in Coast Guard reports and reported in THE ECONOMIST.

      • David

        “The Japanese then sit just out of the limit and laugh and scoff at U.S. military personnel”

        Although they do a vital job and do it very well the US Coast guard is not part of the military and members of the US Coast Guard are not US military personnel.

      • imforthewhales

        david…that is getting awful far from the discussion. Or is that just your way of saying that you know you lost the original points.

      • David

        Well I was just correcting your simple mistake, not trying to completely change the discussion like you do.

        But since the discussion was about boats and the laws applied to boats, if I had changed the topic to the Coast Guard, their mission and jurisdiction it actually would be on topic.

      • Chris H.

        David said:

        “Although they do a vital job and do it very well the US Coast guard is not part of the military and members of the US Coast Guard are not US military personnel.”

        Well David, you know how I hate to disagree with you (because I know that you’re always right, and the rest of us are just know-nothing-scumbag-hippies…), but I just can’t remain silent on this one. The USCG are indeed part of the US military.

        http://www.uscg.mil/top/about/

        Now, something tells me that, as a former member of the US Navy (as you claim to be), you should know a “simple fact” like that…

        I do not live in the US, nor am I ex-military (or CG), but even I know that the USCG is part of the US military… Are you sure that you’re not sitting in a cr*ppy little apartment in Shibuya Ward?

      • Matt

        imforthewhales: “there are no ports in Antarctica”

        Yes, actually there are. In another bit of lieing “strategy”, Paul Watson has even said he’d be taking the Irwin to McMurdo – a hilarious lie since it’s closed most of the year. But, what on earth are you talking about?? What does that have to do with anything I posted?

        As for the rest of your post, it is CLEARLY obfuscation. Regardless of your blather, the Japanese whalers are not operating in Australian territory. The Australian courts have said so and now you have proven it.

        You didn’t answer my question: You DID know that the Irwin is registered as a yacht and you DID know your reasoning was specious, didn’t you imforthewhales?

      • romika3

        Impforwhales: “Japan has a long history of entering the waters of other countries.” it is not the just the Japanese. The major cause for the loss of the Northern Cod Stocks is attributed to the European offshore fleets fishing the water of the North East Coast of Newfoundland and Labrador for 500 hundred years (Newfoundland and Labrador practiced an inshore small boat fishery until the early eighities). The extension to the 200 mile limit did reduce this but they still fish “close” often moving within the 200 mile limit. This is handled thought close monitoring by air and ship and I believe the use of GPS location beacons. The bottom-line is that violence is not a tool in this case. Watson however who proclaims himself savior of the world practices the use to terrorism and terror tactics to achieve his goals. As mentioned in a previous post, strip this away and the SSCS does nothing in the area of conservation other than sell a few tee shirts.

        The SSCS by definition is not a conservation organization but rather it is a terrorist organization who by-the-way I believe also supports sub organizations to carry out further “dirty” work. If the SSCS was really a conservation organization they would be down in the southern ocean with their three boats as platforms to do some “real” whale science, collecting data to fill in the gaps on whale population, range and migration patterns. All of this date then could be used to either support or not support the sustainable harvest and management of some whale species in the Southern Ocean. However, as I pointed out in earlier posts this is real “work” and for Watson and is want-to-be pseudo warriors running around in front of a TV camera, throwing things like a bunch of youngsters, lying and distorting data, and squeezing money out of old ladies is much easier.

      • Chris H.

        Ports in Antarctica:

        http://www.indexmundi.com/antarctica/ports_and_terminals.html

        “Matt”, aka “TrueMetis”, aka Chad Matthews, BC, Canada.

      • Matt

        Chris H. FAIL #1
        McMurdo Station:
        http://www.sciencefriday.com/blog/2010/12/life-in-mcmurdo-station-antarctica/

        “McMurdo has a harbor for supply ships, landing strips for aircraft on the sea ice and shelf ice, and a helicopter pad.”

        har·bor? ?/?h?rb?r/ Show Spelled
        [hahr-ber]
        –noun
        1. a part of a body of water along the shore deep enough for anchoring a ship and so situated with respect to coastal features, whether natural or artificial, as to provide protection from winds, waves, and currents.
        2. such a body of water having docks or port facilities.
        3. any place of shelter or refuge: The old inn was a harbor for tired travelers.

        port ? ?/p?rt, po?rt/ Show Spelled
        [pawrt, pohrt]
        –noun
        1. a city, town, or other place where ships load or unload.
        2. a place along a coast in which ships may take refuge from storms; harbor.
        3. Also called port of entry. Law . any place where persons and merchandise are allowed to pass, by water or land, into and out of a country and where customs officers are stationed to inspect or appraise imported goods.
        4. a geographical area that forms a harbor: the largest port on the eastern seaboard.
        5. Informal . an airport.

        Chris H. FAIL #2
        ““Matt”, aka “TrueMetis”, aka Chad Matthews, BC, Canada.”

        I’m from Detroit. Neither of those is my name. I went by Matt134 on the Whale Wars Discovery forum where I made SSCS CEO Steve Roest tie himself in verbal knots.

      • Matt

        Chris H.

        And, of course, none of that has anything to do with the fact that Japanese ships enter and exit Australian ports EVERY SINGLE HOUR of EVERY SINGLE DAY. imforthewhales said that Japanese ships cannot enter Australian ports – that is clearly ridiculous and his response: “Matt…there are no ports in Antarctica.” is a non sequiter and has nothing to do with anything I posted.

      • Chris H.

        Matt,

        you used the word “port”. When imforthewhales said “there are no ports in Antartica”, you said “[y]es, actually there are”. Then you gave the example of McMurdo Station.

        The problem is that McMurdo Station is not a port. Although it does have a harbor, as was noted in your cut & paste job, a harbor and a port are not the same thing. If you need me to tell you the difference between a port and a harbor, I will do, but I think that you may want to look up the difference yourself.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMurdo_Station#Contemporary_function_and_history

        P.S. Don’t try to be a smart-ass and tell me that it has a heliport, because we all know that we’re talking about shipping ports here.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Gawd matt…I just wasted a half hour reading all that ghumpf!

        Obviously anyone reading that will understand ports = Hobart, Sydney, Freemantle etc. Places that can take a ship, refuel it, provide provisions, repairs etc etc etc. You don’t have to be Einstein.

      • David
      • Matt

        Chris H.
        Port and harbor are synonyms (if you need me to explain the word synonym, will do) which you can clearly see at dictionary.com. and you can see, by the definitions I posted that a harbor has port facilities and a port is an area forming a harbor. Sorry, you FAIL again.

        And none of this has anything to do with what I posted. imforthewhales said Japanese ships (NOT Japanese WHALING ships) are not allowed into Australian ports – You do agree this is a ridiculous error on his part, right? As I’ve posted 3 times now. Japanese ships enter and exit Australian ports every single day.

        As I’ve shown, Australian law is not relevant in the area the whalers are operating in because it is not Australian territory. The judge in the Humane Society case said so and the Ady Gil report from Austrailia also determined that the area was out of the governement’s jurisdiction (The New Zealand government also cited lack of jurisdiction in their Ady Gil incident report) It is not Australian territory. The Australian government has said so several times now.

      • Michael Raymer

        This is pathetic. You guys keep finding these pseudo-topics to argue about and they are meaningless. The fact of the matter is that the whaling fleet is on its ass, not being able to procure the resources it has grown used to, to hunt whales. The fact of the matter is that SSCS has grown to three ships, three crews, provisions, helicopter and crews. The fact of the matter is that SSCS is in position to intercept and interdict whaling operations much better than in previous years. The fact of the matter is that all the hysteria and vitriol stirred up by the pro-whaling faction has not hurt SSCS one iota and may have, possibly, strengthened it. Flap your wrists, wring your hands and whine all you want boyz. You’re not accomplishing anything but giving me something to laugh at.

      • Matt

        @ Michael Raymer
        “The fact of the matter is that all the hysteria and vitriol stirred up by the pro-whaling faction has not hurt SSCS one iota and may have, possibly, strengthened it”

        If you’re opposed to hysteria and vitriol then you must absolutely be opposed to the SSCS since it is what they do along with their violence, right?

        “Flap your wrists, wring your hands and whine all you want boyz. You’re not accomplishing anything but giving me something to laugh at.”

        Should we get violent and throw things like SSCS instead? Would that make you happy?

      • Michael Raymer

        “Should we get violent and throw things like SSCS instead? Would that make you happy?”

        First of all, Matt, I’m already happy. If I was any happier, I’d be twins. Here we are at the start of a whole new season and all the indicators point to your boyz being issued a beatdown that’s going to send them home crying to mama-san. Should you get violent? You already have! I distinctly recall the use of concussion grenades, water cannon, heavy steel nuts and bolts being thrown at SSCS crewmembers….and oh yeah, the Shonan Maru deliberately ramming the Ady Gil. Not to mention the use of explosive tipped harpoons being shot at babies and their mothers. Nope, you guys already have a sterling record of violence and cowardice. No need to take it any further. You do have strange tastes in who you pick as heroes, though.

      • Chris H.

        Matt,

        “harbor” and “port” are not synonyms…

        Definition of a harbor:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbour

        Please note the 3rd paragraph which begins with the sentence:

        “Harbors and ports are often confused with each other.”

        So, I guess you’re just “confused”…

      • Matt

        “First of all, Matt, I’m already happy. If I was any happier, I’d be twins.”

        So, what’s with all the whining about “pathetic” arguments then? If you’re so happy, go be happy. Leave us to ourselves.

        “Should you get violent? You already have! I distinctly recall the use of concussion grenades, water cannon, heavy steel nuts and bolts being thrown at SSCS crewmembers….and oh yeah, the Shonan Maru deliberately ramming the Ady Gil. Not to mention the use of explosive tipped harpoons being shot at babies and their mothers. Nope, you guys already have a sterling record of violence and cowardice.”

        All of which is in response to the violence of the SSCS making it defensive. SSCS violence came first – I’m here decrying the violence of the SSCS – you’re here supporting it. Want the violence to stop? Stop SSCS. And NO, hunting whales is not violence.

      • Matt

        Harbor and Port are synonyms. Wikipedia is wikipedia.

        http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/harbor

        —Synonyms
        1. Harbor, haven, port indicate a shelter for ships. A harbor may be natural or artificially constructed or improved: a fine harbor on the eastern coast. A haven is usually a natural harbor that can be utilized by ships as a place of safety; the word is common in literary use: a haven in time of storm; a haven of refuge. A port is a harbor viewed esp. in its commercial relations, though it is frequently applied in the meaning of harbor or haven also: a thriving port; any old port in a storm. 3. asylum, sanctuary, retreat. 4. protect, lodge. 6. See cherish.

      • Chris H.

        Matt,

        since you are incapable of listening to reason, and you don’t have the integrity to admit when you are obviously wrong, you have earned a place on my “ignore” list.

        Have a nice life. Goodbye.

      • Matt

        Not about reason, Chris, you’re wrong (and so is imforthewhales), I proved it, now you lack the integrity to man-up and accept it. I provided you with exact citation and now you’re crying about it and running away. Not my fault you don’t know the English language.

      • Michael Raymer

        Matt wrote: “SSCS violence came first – I’m here decrying the violence of the SSCS – you’re here supporting it. Want the violence to stop? Stop SSCS. And NO, hunting whales is not violence.”

        Bullshit. You’re no better than romika in that when you’re not lying you’re just being stupid. The violence of the whalers came first. The violence of an unnecessary, inhumane and archaic industry came first. The murder of baby whales first, to make killing its parents easier came first. That’s what needs to be stopped. And progress is being made.

        As I keep saying, more boats, faster boats, more crews, upgrades to technology, more donations. This is what SSCS has to show, while the whalers drag their pathetic asses down to Australia at half strength. You guys are losing the war, you will eventually lose the war entirely. And when you do, romika will get his wish: These dregs of humanity will be forced to become genuine “frontline” fishermen and not the caricatures of fishermen that they are now. Stay by your computers boyz, we’ll let you know when that happens.

      • Matt

        “You’re no better than romika in that when you’re not lying you’re just being stupid.”

        Care to point out one single lie of mine???

        Don’t need to lie to show the SSCS as the violent organization that they are. I just let non-captain Paul Watson do the lieing. He does enough for everyone. Not surprising since he admits in this very thread that he is a liar – it’s his strategy. I know it’s difficult for you to continually have to defend a violent organization like the SS and their abject dishonesty must be maddening – having to change your story day after day, based on the drivel the spills from Watson. Sounds like hard work.

        Hunting is not violent. That’s not going to change regardless of how blue in the face you get and how much you scream to the contrary, Michael. Never has been (in its over 100,000 year existence), never will be. It’s an unavoidable part of life. Sorry.

      • Michael Raymer

        “Care to point out one single lie of mine???”

        1. “The SSCS is absolutely a violent organization, in fact, they owe their very existance to the commission of violence.”

        2. “SSCS violence came first”

        3. “And NO, hunting whales is not violence.”

        Right there, three examples of either intentional lying or unintentional stupidity.

        “having to change your story day after day, based on the drivel the spills from Watson. Sounds like hard work.”

        Again, You’re either lying or you’re being stupid. At no time during my tenure here have I changed “my story”. And, come to think of it, neither has SSCS. And as to “hard work”? No, I really haven’t seen anyone around here make me work hard. Debating with you guys is a joke, especially after reading the drivel from above. “Port and harbor are synonyms, my mommy told me so.” As they say in hockey, back to the pond, rookie.

        “That’s not going to change regardless of how blue in the face you get and how much you scream to the contrary, Michael.”

        I don’t get blue in the face nor do I scream. I don’t need too. Nothing that goes on in this or any forum is going to change the major league bitch-slapping your heroes are going to get when they (finally) reach the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary. Nothing is going to change the fact that your heroes have their collective ass hanging out, all thanks to SSCS. Nothing is going to change the fact that, it really doesn’t matter what happens this season. 2012, 2013, 2014….SSCS will be in the SO for as long as your idiot-children heroes in the ICR want to keep playing this charade.

      • Matt

        so, you can’t actually point out a single error in fact I’ve made. Didn’t think so.

        Without violence, SSCS would be indistinguishable from GreenPeace and they absolutely would not have a TV show. This is fact.

        SSCS violence did come first – hunting is not violence. This is also fact.

        ” At no time during my tenure here have I changed “my story”.”

        The arrows were planted…no wait, Pete done it all by hiself… Paul never saw the inside of the Ady Gil where the bow was hung in plain site…we throwed Pete out… no it was all a ploy for the judges, Petes back in… wait, Pete is still out but it’s because he talked… no, I’m going to sue Pete… are you still buying that I was shot? No? Well, I gave the bullet away anyway. etc…etc…etc…
        So, Michael, which story about the fake shooting are you sticking with then?

        ““Port and harbor are synonyms, my mommy told me so.”

        I am in no way related to Meriam Webster nor Dictionary.com. Those are my sources. If you have a problem with them listing port and harbor as syonyms, take it up with them.

        “SSCS will be in the SO for as long as your idiot-children heroes in the ICR want to keep playing this charade.”

        Or they’ll be there at least until they do something monumentally stupid and get arrested like Pete, huh Michael?

      • crumpets are yummy

        @Matt…what has any of this got to do with the fact that the Japanese are losing the whaling war and cannot even beg, buy or borrow a supply ship after the oriental Whale Meat was de-flagged by Panama for illegal whale meat transport and fined?

      • Michael Raymer

        “Without violence, SSCS would be indistinguishable from GreenPeace and they absolutely would not have a TV show. This is fact.”

        You are just a laugh a minute, aren’t you little boy? First you dweebs accuse SSCS of just being it it for the money, then you say they should be more like GreenPeace, who IS just in it for the money. What’s a synonym for pathetic?

        “hunting is not violence. This is also fact.”

        I never said that hunting is violence. I said that what the whalers are doing is violence. And targeting whale calves is obscene. Just because you condone obscenity and violence, it doesn’t make it right. Hell, Hitler was into obscenity and violence too. And, just like you, he thought he was right.

        “The arrows were planted…no wait, Pete done it all by hiself…” etc, etc, etc.

        Once again, I’m only accusing you of either lying or stupidity because that is what you are embracing. I never changed my story on these particular topics because I never had a story on any of them. I cast my own suspicions on the shooting incident, I never was a fan of Pete Bethune, I thought the arrow thing was a dumb move to begin with, and I was never a fan of them using the Ady Gil as an anti-whaling vessel. Keep flailing. If you do it long enough, you just might hit something. But it ain’t going to be me. You’re are so not good enough.

        “I am in no way related to Meriam Webster nor Dictionary.com. Those are my sources. If you have a problem with them listing port and harbor as syonyms, take it up with them.”

        The only problem is you nimrods trying to make this a debating point (which further backs up my stupidity claim). Not that I like it when my side engages in this nonsense either. It’s ridiculous and pointless.

        “Or they’ll be there at least until they do something monumentally stupid and get arrested like Pete, huh Michael?”

        You guys have been playing that card since day one and gotten nowhere with it. “Somebody is going to get killed.” Nope, they sure haven’t. “Someone is going to get arrested.” Well, Pete did, and he walked, and he brought more attention to the whaling issue while he was doing it. “Someone is going to get seriously injured.” Yup, a couple of people have been banged up. It bears mentioning that Shannon was the most seriously injured (pelvis injury) and came right back for more. Does it bother you that one female vegetarian activist has bigger balls than your whole lot, put together? If it doesn’t, it should. “Someone is going to get sunk.” Bingo! But it wasn’t SSCS that did the sinking. It was the criminally incompetent, or just plain criminal, who was running the Shonan Maru. So, enough of your doomsday predictions about SSCS’s presence in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary. If this was a baseball game, your batting average would have you stocking shelves at Walmart.

        “so, you can’t actually point out a single error in fact I’ve made.”

        I’ve pointed out several. You just don’t have the shred of integrity it takes to admit it. But, who cares. Once the whalers are gone, you will be too. I’m looking forward to laughing you off the site.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hart-Noecker/100001623066825 Hart Noecker

    This is absolutely amazing. SSCS has done in four years what “Green” “Peace” could not do in 40.

    • David

      Well actually they have been in the Southern Ocean for 6 years not 4. And just what is it that they have done? Is whaling still occurring?

      • georgina

        What exactly SSCS has done? Have you been living under a big, fat paycheck from the whalers or something? The Japanese are slaughtering less and less and less and less whales, and coming up short to their quotas, as well as mounting international pressure AND awareness of what goes on with whales. That is what the SSCS has done!

        Is whaling still ocurring? Yes, BUT it is a dying industry, not the thriving one it once was, if it ever was. With all that whale meat kept in the freezers i have doubts that anyone still thinks it was a great idea to go out and kill whales for meat, because the research excuse nobody buys.

      • romika3

        SSCS has done little other than causing the Japanese to dig thier heels in. Also the numbers SSCS use, they are inflated. As Watson himself pointed on in his book “Earthfore”, lying and distorting the data and the truth, well that’s acceptable.

      • imforthewhales

        So what are you so worried about then romika?

        SSCS seems to bother you a great deal…you spend hours of every day tapping out your messages,,yet by your own account SSCS don’t do anything.

        It seems strange that you would waste your time on here , and everyone elses, over an org that doesn’t do anything or have any achievements.

      • Bob

        They have done nothing for conservation. What they do amounts to people from one culture trying to impose their way of life on people from another culture. It’s the heights of hypocrisy and dishonesty. Simply appalling. This in the sort of thing that creates animosity and hatred among the peoples of the world. Paul Watson doesn’t care; to him it is just a way to suck money from the gullible. His publicity stunts are regularly endangering the lives of the Japanese whalers and also his own crew.

      • David

        Whaling hasn’t been a thriving industry since the 1970′s. And since JARPA I and JARPAN I started, the Japanese never reached their quotas, that would be almost 20 years before Sea Shepherd started their campaigns.

        You know Norway hasn’t meet their quota for years. Is that Sea Shepherds doing?

        There was more international pressure AND awareness in the 1970′s with the Save the Whales movement. Which actually accomplished something by getting most countries to agree to a commercial whaling moratorium. Has SSCS gotten any countries to stop whaling? Have they gotten any whale protection laws passed?

      • romika3

        “So what are you so worried about then romika?” Somebody has to stick up for the common “frontline” fishermen. Its Watson’s way to attack the fisherpersons of which he has a loathing hatred for. It goes right back to his roots in Eastern Canada. A shame in a way but that’s Watson for you. I seen to many fishermen who are trying to make a living in legal, managed and sustainable fisheries taking the brunt of SSCS, PETA and HSUS city slickers who know nothing but what they learn on the web.

      • imforthewhales

        But romika3…surely if an outfit is as worthless as SSCS, as you are making out, then they are not worth worrying about? Or are you secretly annoyed at the SSCS success in bringing attention to things such as the baby seal slaughter and japanese commercial whaling?

        BTW…neither seals nor whales are fish.

      • David

        So petty thieves shouldn’t be arrested?

        Sure more time and effort be spent on major criminals, but I think most people want all criminals dealt with.

      • crumpets are yummy

        It will be nice to see those Japanese whaling criminals get what they deserve this season.

        From the sounds of things you will get much pleasure out of it, I’m sure, David.

  • imforthewhales

    “Thank-you whalers for promoting such a frightening image of Sea Shepherd.”

    Yes I have to second that…the trolls are doing a brilliant job. Keep up the great work boyz and make sure Ginza Glen gives you a nice pay rise soon!

    But you had better be quick!

    “@GlennInwood hey Glenn bet you $50 the Nisshin Maru joins the Hiyo Maru in a Chinese scrapyard by end of 2012. Double it that you get sacked
    1:22 PM Nov 30th via web ”

    Taz patrol

    *Lol*

    • josh lamb

      Haha i laughed at that, soooo hard.

  • Soapy

    Could it just be that the whalers have sent a different fleet down the the antarctic and left the one that sea shepherd knows about in japan so that some hard core whaling can go on with out sea shepherd?
    I sure hope not, but hey, lets throw another conspiracy into this.

    • boo radley

      Japanese whaling is nearly broke…they can’t afford to purchase new ships.

  • http://www.yahoo.com Vote_for_Pedro

    Yes indeed- the trolls are doing a great job making SSCS look more intelligent (which they clearly are)! Besides- these Japanese poachers are bringing shame upon a whole nation of people. I can understand why these trolls get so upset and spew rubish. They must be ashamed of the actions of their country and are simply acting out, taking the embarrasment and turning it to anger and misdirecting it at us instead of their own goverment. We understand how ashamed you guys must be. We’re ahsamed for you! Keep up the good work SSCS, we love you!!!

  • Whoever…

    “The whalers ‘are up to their necks in it,’ [...] “First, they lose their tanker and refrigerator ship, then their sightings ship. Now they have to satisfy themselves with a halved quota and a drastically shorter hunting season.”

    Talk about karma ;)

    Seriously, we are at the verge of a global dramatic change.
    Either we evolve and start respecting each other and all living creatures or humanity will be in deep trouble very soon!

    It’s time Gaia takes back what belongs to ‘her’.

    Laugh all you want but this planet will either be cleansed or we are all going to suffer the consequences of our destructive actions.

    Soon, very soon…

    :)

  • Arnie

    I have started torturing and killing puppies and kittens now because SS has started their campaign against the legal whaling. I won’t stop until they do.

    • Chris H.

      Arnie,

      you never told me your full name and address so that I can send you some “help”…

      • boo radley

        Arnie…you must be on the pro-whaling side?

    • ECOWARRIOR117

      “I have started torturing and killing puppies and kittens now because SS has started their campaign against the legal whaling. I won’t stop until they do.”
      Obvious Troll is Obvious.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Psychopaths are incapable of feeling guilt or remorse for anything they’ve done because they can’t empathize with others. They tend to view guilt as a liability or weakness in other people, and feel that they are superior because they don’t experience it and can therefore be as ruthless as they like.

        Interviewed after committing horrible crimes, many psychopaths insist that their victims deserved it or even that they did their victims a favour. They rationalize, justify or deny any wrongdoing, while perceiving themselves as victims of an unfair society.

    • ednakano

      SSCS never have no sympathy for animal on the ground including human being.

      • imforthewhales

        Edna…it is called Sea shepherd, not Land Shepherd.

        So they focus on the rights of those who live in the oceans.

        Of course they see the world as a living entity and a giant ecosystem, which it is. So they have sympathy for all living beings. But especially those who cannot defend themselves.

        Its strange ( nay, very strange, and somewhat ironic) how someone like you can support whaling, one of the the most cruel and depraved of all hunts…and then try to speak to us of sympathy?

        Homework….

        Go look up empathy and altruism in ednapedia.

      • Bob

        How about I come over to your house and ram it and throw acid in your face? Then you can tell everyone about how altruistic you think I am.

      • romika3

        Bob: A typical reply from a member of the SSCS. Throwing acid, the mark of a terrorist organization using terror tactics to acheive their goals.

      • imforthewhales

        i think Bob is on your side romika3.

      • Bob

        @romika3
        That comment was directed at imforthewhales.

      • romika3

        Sorry Bob, evertime I see the word “acid” is think of the SSCS. My apologies.

      • Bob

        No worries romika3. You can buy me a beer after we get our next ICR pay ;)

      • ednakano

        Bob
        >ram it and throw acid in your face?
        SSCS doing those things and The Antarctic Ocean is high see. Not your back
        yard.

        Aosl Paul Watson himself always mention he hate human being. If you tried to deny it you blame Paul Watson as liar.

      • imforthewhales

        Ha ha, so now romika3 has conveniently forgotten his comment which now should read

        romika3, December 4, 2010 at 3:19 pm

        Bob: A typical reply from a member of the pro whaling crew…Throwing acid, the mark of a terrorist organization using terror tactics to acheive their goals.

        Lol…now having realized his mistake, Bob and Romika3 are off for a beer…lol…

      • romika3

        “Lol…now having realized his mistake, Bob and Romika3 are off for a beer…lol…” you can be well assured we won’t be buying that $600.00 SSCS beer as the funds are sure to be wasted.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Well it would be wasted on you romika3.

      • Michael Raymer

        romika, if you can’t tell when someone is on your side (which confirms everyones suspicion about your intelligence), maybe you should stay away from the alcohol. You and your knee-jerk responses will just have to rely on your collection of anti-depressants.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Knee jerk…yes i think that sums romika3 up well.

        Bite first, think about it later.

  • http://www.yahoo.com Vote_for_Pedro

    Arnie- you are a worhtless human being. I wouldnt brag too much becuase you just admitted you are toturing animals which is Illegal in the states so I will be reporting you to Ecorazzi and encouraging them to remove you from this site as well as pass your info on to the ASPCA in your state. Watch your back you P.O.S!!
    I love when people call SSCS “terrorists”. I havent seen them blow up buildings, airplanes, or kill anyone. I suppose definitions of terrorists vary from culture to culture. Or it could be the fact these trolls simply speak shitty english. Either way.. GO SSCS. By the anger of the trolls and the lies from the japanese we all know who is really winning the whale wars!!! Save a whale, harpoon a troll!!!

    • David

      Well as one example the UK says; “(1) In this Act “terrorism” means the use or threat of action where:

      (a) the action falls within subsection (2),
      (b) the use or threat is designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public and
      (c) the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause.

      (2) Action falls within this subsection if it:

      (a) involves serious violence against a person,
      (b) involves serious damage to property,
      (c) endangers a person’s life, other than that of the person committing the action,
      (d) creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public or
      (e) is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system.”

      Well prop fouling a ship would seriously damage property, it is designed to intimidate the whalers and it is for a political or ideological cause.

      Other legal definitions are similar.

      • romika3

        Prop fouling, for those of you who know no better can be serious and can cause a vessel to founder in heavy seas due to a lack of control. We had two drowning this summer when a small vessel lost power in heavy seas and was unable to get the bow into the wind. I am surprised that SSCS can get away with this tactic especially in the southern ocean that is notorious for its heavy weather.

      • Chris H.

        David,

        that definition of “terrorism” is so broad and vague that it even includes you.

        How does it feel to be a “terrorist” David?

      • imforthewhales

        Romika3…the whole idea is to prop foul the japanese whaling ships so that they cannot kill whales.

        If the Japanese whalers do not like this tactic then they can always go home.

        Don’t worry Romika3, if any of the Japanese ships founder, I’m sure SSCS will rescue the crew and take them back to Tasmania ( where the whalers will be thrown in jail and charged with crimes against nature)

      • David

        The reason for their criminal activity has no bearing on its criminality.

        And you think appeasing the terrorists is the best course? How often has appeasement of criminals worked?

        And although I think I know the answer you will give, but I don’t want to assume, under what law do you think the Australian authorities will arrest the Japanese crewmen? Also, unless there is no other whaling vessel nearby, the SSCS crew will be liable to arrest for kidnapping.

      • imforthewhales

        Thanks David…another mention of the terrorist word…gee i cant see Japan getting supply vessel anytime soon can you?

        if Japanese whaling ships ever entered an Australian port then they would become illegal immigrants for one…probably thrown into some detention center for a while….then I suppose the Australian authorities would be looking closely at The Australian Federal court order against the Japanese whaling fleet.

        In January 2008 HSI secured a historic victory against the Japanese whalers in the Australian Federal Court. After a four year long court case the Federal Court issued a judgement that declared Japanese whaling in the Australian Whale Sanctuary in Antarctica to be a breach of Australian law and issued an injunction ordering the hunt to be stopped.

        The decision from the Federal Court is historic in that it is the first time the Japanese whalers have been taken to court and it confirms that the hunt is illegal. HSI served the order that the hunt be stopped at the company’s headquarters in Tokyo and we have called on them to abandon the hunt immediately. They have ignored the injunction and their continued whaling in the Australian Whale Sanctuary is in contempt of the Australian Federal Court.

        Therefore they can be charged with contempt, non?

      • David

        “Therefore they can be charged with contempt, non?”

        That would be ‘non’ iusuallyfail. And that was the answer I expected.

        You really need to read that court decision. The judge specifically said that if they conducted whaling in ‘real’ Australian waters they would be breaking the law, but in the ATS the Australian law only applies to vessels registered in Australia and Australians. Since the Japanese are obviously Japanese and their ships are registered in Japan, they aren’t in contempt of any court order.

        “if Japanese whaling ships ever entered an Australian port then they would become illegal immigrants for one”, you seem to have as bad comprehension as MN. The claim was if they were ‘rescued’ by SSCS and returned to Tasmania. And actually it isn’t immigration until they exit their ship, until then they aren’t in Australia for immigration purposes they are in Japan. If a crewman from any ocean going vessel doesn’t leave his vessel in a foreign port he doesn’t need a passport or a visa because he never ‘entered’ that country.

      • imforthewhales

        So what you are saying David is that the the Sea Shepherd ships could just truck on over to Tokyo at their convenience , enter port and go for a nice little sightseeing cruise?

      • David

        To a point, yes they could. But that is getting awful far from the discussion. Or is that just your way of saying that you know you lost the original points.

      • imforthewhales

        Please provide some links to support your claims David.

        The decision from the Federal Court was the first time that the Japanese whalers have been taken to court.

        The result was a win by the Humane society International against the illegal Japanese whale poachers.

        Note that there were no Australian whaling companies taken to court. That is probably because there are no Australian whaling companies and there are no Australian registered ships taking whales illegally.

        This was a case specifically against the Japanese whaling company Kyodo Senpaku Kaisha which has an annual self serving permit from the Japanese government ( the financial backers of the japanese whaling fleet) to kill whales.

        The AFC court order confirms that the Japanese hunt is illegal.

        HSI served the order that the hunt be stopped at the company’s headquarters in Tokyo…( not at any Australian whaling companies in Sydney or Canberra)

        initially, the government blocked attempts by HSI to serve papers to the whaling company, ( Kyodo Senpaku) however HSI obtained court approval to serve the documents via alternate means, which meant that the court case could go ahead.

        The Australian Whale Sanctuary was proclaimed in 2000 under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation (EPBC) Act 1999, and includes the waters within Australia’s 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone adjacent to the Australian Antarctic Territory. Since July 2000 when the Act came into effect, hunting whales in the Australian Whale Sanctuary has been an offence attracting heavy penalties.

        Yet, between 2000 and 2006, HSI estimates that Kyodo Senpaku Kaisha has killed in excess of 1300 whales within the Australian Whale Sanctuary in breach of Australian law with hundreds more added every year.

      • crumpets are yummy

        In 1994, at its 46th annual meeting, the IWC established the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary in a 23-1-8 vote. Commercial whaling is prohibited within the sanctuary boundaries.

      • crumpets are yummy

        In an open letter to the Japanese government, published in 2002 in the New York Times and sponsored by the World Wildlife Fund (WWF), 21 scientists declared that they “believe Japan’s whale ‘research’ program fails to meet minimum standards for credible science”. They were “concerned that Japan’s whaling program is not designed to answer scientific questions relevant to the management of whales; that Japan refuses to make the information it collects available for independent review; and that its research program lacks a testable hypothesis or other performance indicators consistent with accepted scientific standards”. They accused Japan of “using the pretense of scientific research to evade its commitments to the world community”

      • David

        How about you just read the judge’s words from his decision?

        “The AFC court order confirms that the Japanese hunt is illegal.”

        No, it confirms that whaling in Australian waters is illegal. And then the judge goes on to say that the claimed Australian waters around Antarctica only apply to Australians vessels and Australians.

        “and includes the waters within Australia’s 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone adjacent to the Australian Antarctic Territory.”

        Waters that they don’t defend and a claim that is in violation of the ATS, Which is why the international community doesn’t recognize the claim. And a claim that Australia specifically DOES NOT raise for consideration in their current ICJ case.

        “Since July 2000 when the Act came into effect, hunting whales in the Australian Whale Sanctuary has been an offence attracting heavy penalties.”

        So then why haven’t the Japanese whalers been taken to court and made to pay these heavy penalties?

        And the HSI decision was in January 2008. Why hasn’t the government or HSI done anything since Japan has whaled in the “Australian” waters ever since?

      • ECOWARRIOR117

        One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter, David.

      • crumpets are yummy

        So true…are there any links to the relevant parts david?

    • ednakano

      You are wrong poor Pedro.

      SSCS already sunk several ship and hurt whaling shp crew as David discribe it is clearly terrorism SSCS did.
      And Calling Eco-Terrorist” for SSCS, GP or AFL/EFL started by FBI.

      • imforthewhales

        Edna…SSCS has never hurt any whaler. The only ones hurting Japanese whalers are the whalers themselves. It was funny when all those riot police dressed up in their dr Who outfits fired pepper spray into their own faces….less funny is the fact that the japanese have been negligent in regards to their safety, suffering several fires on board their ships and the loss of several crew members.

        Obviously, the japanese whalers find this to be the price you pay to go whaling.

        Sad really.

  • worldveggie

    Hello. I read somewhere that SSCS cut the whaler’s quota in half last year. Does that mean that they were engaged with the fleet for half the time the fleet was whaling in the Southern Ocean? If not, how did they arrive at that number?
    Also, as to the whaling fleet not being able to secure supply and refueling ships, is there a release anywhere, from the Japanese, about that? I understand it is because of SSCS’s activities? If so, I’d be curious to see the source article. I’m surprised that they would admit to that but I guess that is positive.
    Thank you for your help.

    • crumpets are yummy

      World veggie…the number of whales saved is simply the number of whales that japan gives to itself ( the quota) less the number of whales they actually take= whales saved.

      The Oriental Bluebird ( SS Whale Meat) has been scrapped…sent to China to be chopped up. A fitting end.

      Greenpeace called for its scrapping after this ship lost its Panamanian flag due to its illegal activities back in 2008. It was de-flagged and fined, following a legal ruling by Panamanian authorities and was the main supply vessel for the Japanese whaling fleet.

      On October 8th it was fined the maximum penalty due to violations relating to its permissible use, the safety of human life and the preservation of the marine environment.

      That means that the ship, which was only supposed to be refuelling the fleet (in one of the most fragile and pristine environments in the world) was not supposed to be transporting whale meat.

      I believe also that they were unable to convert this ship to meet current requirements in Antartica regarding use of heavy oil.

      Panama, as a party to the Convention on the International Trade in Endangered Species, is specfically forbidden from any such trade in whale meat and were forced to take action.

      Panama asked a more basic question: why was it transporting whale meat at all when it only carried permits for refuelling?

      Japan has ratified an international treaty which seeks to end the practice of ‘re-flagging’ vessels in order to circumvent international environmental law. The treaty bars Japan from authorizing a ship to participate in the exploitation of marine living resources for at least three years, if that ship has changed its flag after being found in breach of international conservation measures.

      One of the whaling fleets problems is that they have not found a replacement refueling ship. The Hiyo Maru No.2, formally named the Oriental Bluebird, has been sold by its owner Daito Trading Company to China to be scrapped. “The ship is too old to operate,” Daito Trading Co. official Yoshikazu Kurashige said.

      The ship was sold in August, and the whalers had plenty of time to find a replacement ship. However, their challenge is finding a company willing to charter a vessel for the Southern Ocean, risk harassment from Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, and be associated with the illegal poaching activities of the Japanese whaling fleet.

      Plenty available regarding that on the net.

      The fleet overall has been reduced further by one or two harpoon ships. This information probably isn’t hard to find.

      • Michael Raymer

        Can we all take a moment to reflect on how pathetic it is that the ICR can’t find a ship to buy? In Japan, a huge maritime market, they can’t find a ship. In Asia (Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, Korea, etc), no one will sell or charter them a ship. How sad is that? It puts into perspective what a paper tiger the ICR really is. There is also some perspective of how strident (and paid for) the pro-whaling trolls are in here, yet they support an organisation that can’t take care of its own needs.

  • romika3

    Folks, face the truth the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is not a conservation organization as they claim, but rather an terroist organization that uses terror tactics to meet it goals. They are also PR hounds selecting issues that have the greatest potential to bring in money and create a media cirus. See Watson’t CBC interview with Barbra Frum, he tells it all.

    • imforthewhales

      Keep up the good work romika3…because of your false claims of terrorism, no company in the world will lease a ship to the whaling crew as a supply vessel.

      • romika3

        To confirm the use of terror and terrorism tactics go to YouTube or SSCS homepage to view members of the SSCS organization attacking fishermen and inciting violence. The SSCS is on a conservation organization as they claim. Their charitable status should be revoked. In addition they state on their web page that they promote the conservation of seals and request funds to do so yet as stated by Watson and members of the SSCS they are no longer in the “seal business”. They are falsely collecting donations. Where is this money going? Is it being passed on to subgroups to support the posting of webpages that promote hate, demonize and degrade towards the people and fisherpersons of Eastern Canada and to employ individuals who continue to make threatening phone calls to fishermen and their families?

      • romika3

        Have you noticed that when the questions are posted Watson conveniently disappears.

      • imforthewhales

        Yeah, like, to the Southern ocean or something?

        Strange that.

      • romika3

        Has pointed out in a previous post he now has the “big ball” on the top of his ship, thus internet access and monitoring.

      • Chris H.

        romika,

        you really do have to learn how to read properly…

        The first sentence of Paul Watson’s comment is:

        “I have no intention of bantering with the usual anonymous suspects.”

        Just in case you are in any doubt, “the usual anonymous suspects” does include you.

        Hopefully I don’t have to tell you what “bantering” means…

      • romika3

        “I have no intention of bantering with the usual anonymous suspects.” A typical excuse from him and members of the SSCS.

      • Michael Raymer

        A typical excuse from the pro-whalers. You guys run like the pansies that you are whenever your lies are shown to you. You obfuscate, distort and lie and when it doesn’t work, you pray and pray for a new Ecorazzi article so you can start the same BS cycle all over. David has become especially noteworthy for his cowardice. But he is still miles ahead of romika and ed who are simply ignorant.

      • romika3

        “You obfuscate, distort and lie and when it doesn’t work,” Sounds like a quote right out of Paul Waston’s book “Earthforce” in that book Watson states that it is all right to lie and distort data. Ignorant, well isn’t that calling the kettle black!

      • Michael Raymer

        Well, whether you are the pot or the kettle, since you basically just admitted to being a liar, I think it’s safe to say that you have no cause to claim the high ground. It is interesting that you pretend so much hatred for Admiral Watson, yet you insist on using the tactics that you claim he uses.

      • romika3

        None of our posts have indicated that we have a hatred for Paul Watson. Our issue has been the methods employed by the SSCS. The use of terror and terrorist tactics to acheive their goals, the selection of issues based on the potential money making and media potential, and the attack on “fontline” fisherpersons. By the way Watson is not an admirial nor does he have his captians ticket.

      • Michael Raymer

        Now you’re not only lying, but you can’t even pull it off without looking like a fool. ALL of your posts have indicated your hatred of Admiral Watson. That’s all you do. Not only is it what you do, but present circumstances indicate that you are really bad at it. Your accusations are ridiculous and not even comment-worthy to anyone who has researched the history of SSCS and Paul Watson.

        How clear does it have to be made for you? SSCS has grown and grown while the whaling fleet is facing serious diminishment and having to shorten its season. You lose. You will continue to lose. Your friends, buddies, compatriots and fellow trolls will continue to lose. And the whalers will continue to lose. Chew on that for a while.

      • ednakano

        SSCS spent more money to take video but not real effect for it.

      • Michael Raymer

        That’s what I like about you ed. I can read your posts forward OR backwards, and they make the same amount of sense.

        What part of THREE boats do you not get? What part of three boats; fueled, crewed and provisioned do you not comprehend? What part of they are waiting for the whaling fleet (who can’t even find a replenishment vessel to replace the Oriental Bluebird, in one of the largest maritime markets in the world), who are weeks late?

        The effects are very real. Hell, we saw the effects last season when the whalers were shown to be a bunch of incompetent cowards in the face of ONE SSCS vessel (the Bob Barker).

      • romika3

        “Now you’re not only lying, but you can’t even pull it off without looking like a fool. ALL of your posts have indicated your hatred of Admiral Watson.” perhaps that is how you see it. Read them again. In Watson’s book Earthforce he tells his followers to lie and distort data. Do you really think anybody believes what his organizaion says. His numbers are distorted, he doesn’t even know the status of the whales he claims to protect. His organization uses terror and terrorist tactics to acheive thier goals (see footage on Youtube, SSCS homepage etc), he selects issuse based on their money making and media potential (see Watson’s interview with the late Barbra Frum on CBC radio), he promotes the demonization of the commom fisherperson. If the SSCS was a real conservation organization you would see none of this.

      • romika3

        “Keep up the good work romika3…because of your false claims of terrorism, no company in the world will lease a ship to the whaling crew as a supply vessel” From this I take that we have been more successful than the SSCS and without using any terror tactics or direct violence against the common fishermen. This then must prove that the SSCS use of terror and terror tactics accomplishes nothing but cause the Japanese to dig in there heals, as they should, and continue the harvesting of Whales on their own terms. You think Watson would have figured out now that people don’t like to be told what to do by an individual who’s only interest is their own ego and fame.

      • AnimuX

        Unfortunately, anti-environmentalist antagonists and industry fronts continue to make false allegations and gross exaggerations in order to demonize environmental activists. They attempt to evoke an emotional response through the use of incendiary terms like ‘terrorist’ regardless of the circumstances involved.

        For example, romika3 who has admitted to being a sealer from Canada, and therefore the focus of environmental protest, continues to call the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society a terrorist organization. Yet, in the entire history of Sea Shepherd, the activists have never attempted or threatened to kill anyone, hold anyone hostage or beat anyone up. Regardless, romika and other antagonists falsely compare the organization to violent murderers responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people. Sea Shepherd activists shoot cameras, not machine guns, and throw stink bombs, not grenades. Throwing stink bombs at a boat is not terrorism.

        When it comes to violent action over environmental protest whalers, sealers, miners, loggers, poachers and shark finners (and more) have actually assaulted activists. In some cases, environmental activists have been brutally murdered. However, I have yet to find an example where environmental activists purposely killed anyone, anywhere. As far as I know, it has never happened.

        Unfortunately, these antagonists are not concerned with the reality of environmental activism. They’re simply part of an ongoing negative campaign to demonize environmental causes and champions.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Yes romika3 loves to throw the word terrorist around. It has almost lost all its meaning…except perhaps for the companies that might have been interested in providing the illegal japanese whalers with a new supply vessel.

        Talk about Karma!

        We could just as easily call you a pyscopath romika3.

        The psychopath is a social predator. He is ruthless, manipulative and often charming. Once referred to as “moral imbeciles,” psychopaths exhibit a marked lack of conscience. They are callous, remorseless and spectacularly self-centered, willing to use and abuse others to achieve their ends, and they are inclined to blame others, including their victims, for their problems and bad behaviour.

      • crumpets are yummy

        I think this pretty much sums up most of the pro-whaling brigand on here.

        No doubt Romika3 will try to turn this around somehow.

      • romika3

        Yummy: Organiations and individuals turn to name calling as their last resort. Nothing else needs to be said.

      • Michael Raymer

        Coming from one of the original name-callers, your comments carry a lot of weight, romika.

      • romika3

        Calling an organization that uses terror, violence, and terroist tatics to acheive their goal is not name calling.

      • Michael Raymer

        Ah, typical pro-whaling double standard. “We can say what we want, but the moment you guys try to, we are going to flap our wrists and make accusations.”

        There is no truth whatsoever to your claims. If anyone is a terrorist around here, it’s the whalers. They use violence to further the goals that only they want. The Japanese people don’t want whale meat, no one else wants whale meat. But, by God, they are going to stick to their “rights” to shed blood and cause death. Just like the Taliban and Al Queda. The whalers are the ones who have used dangerous and possibly lethal weapons. The whalers are the ones who targeted a helicopter in flight with a weapon. The whalers are the terrorists. Oooops. There I go “name calling” again.

      • crumpets are yummy

        “No doubt Romika3 will try to turn this around somehow.

        Well, I got that right anyway.

        Romika3, you are watering down your words to the point that they mean very little. Using words such as “terrorism” and “violent” reduces those words to nothingness and most people woudl read this as just a reversion to name calling on your part, so this begs the question, what does that say about you?

        Sadly, you are displaying the signs of a psycopath here…especially the part about blaming others and the lack of empathy.

        Lets read about the signs of a psychopath here…

        They are callous, remorseless and spectacularly self-centered, willing to use and abuse others to achieve their ends, and they are inclined to blame others, including their victims, for their problems and bad behaviour.

      • romika3

        To confirm the use of terror and terrorism tactics go to YouTube or SSCS homepage to view members of the SSCS organization attacking fishermen and inciting violence.

      • Michael Raymer

        “To confirm the use of terror and terrorism tactics go to YouTube or SSCS homepage” and watch videos of a whale hunt.

  • Arnie

    It’s no use reporting me Pedro. I’ll still be doing what I do. You can’t catch me.
    If you want to help the animals you should contact the SSCS and let them know what they have to do stop me. Also tell them you won’t give them any more money until they do the right thing.

    • From MN, with hope…

      The right thing is saving the whales, and putting you in front of a proper court. If you’re torturing animals because you don’t want SEA Shepherd saving the whales than you have issues. Plenty of them. And I’m just going to tell you right now, your little ‘protest’ isn’t going to work. Paul has gotten much more encouragement to not go to the SO than some kid torturing animals. He’s had his life threatened multiple times. And Sea Shepherd has already gotten the crew assembled and the resources ready, plus purchased a new boat, so no way they are going to throw it in now. Sea Shepherd is going against the whaling fleet and there isn’t a thing you can do to stop them.

      And I remain skeptical that you are actually hurting these animals, but to stay safe, I’ll get some proper attention on you…

    • Michael Raymer

      I wouldn’t even give this guy the time of day. He’s obviously some pre-pubescent loser who is contemplating life without a girlfriend so he comes here and tries to stir some crap about torturing animals. I’m absolutely positive that the little punk doesn’t have the nerve to do anything but type. Give him no further thought.

  • crumpets are yummy

    Arnie, December 3, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    “”I have started torturing and killing puppies and kittens now because SS has started their campaign against the legal whaling. I won’t stop until they do.”"

    As yet i have not seen a single pro-whaler say anything against this poza-posta. I guess they think that anything goes?

    • Chris H.

      The pro-whalers are secretly hoping for pictures or video of “Arnie” in flagrante delicto.

  • Arnie

    Animals continue to suffer and die. This is happening because Paul Watson and SSCS have launched a violent campaign against innocent people. This is what I’m doing about it.

    You can’t catch me and if you do somebody else will just take over for me. There’s plenty of people that feel like I do. We are sick of Paul Watson’s violence and the lies he and SSCS use to justify it.

    You can help these animals. Contact SSCS and their major financial enablers like Bob Barker and let them know what they have to do to make me stop. Don’t donate to them and encourage other people not to. If you live in a country where SSCS has a ship registered contact your government and urge them to remove the registration. The more I see these things being done, the more mercy I will show to the puppies and kittens.

    • Michael Raymer

      I wouldn’t even give this guy the time of day. He’s obviously some pre-pubescent loser who is contemplating life without a girlfriend so he comes here and tries to stir some crap about torturing animals. I’m absolutely positive that the little punk doesn’t have the nerve to do anything but type. Give him no further thought.

      Worth repeating.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leonard-Greene/1306324129 Leonard Greene

    I see the usual Pro-whaling nonsense is still spouted by the usual suspects. It still does not stop the facts that the whaling fleet is w/o a tanker/refueling vessel, and has a much shorter amount of time to play down there, while SSCS has more ships and crew ready to help make the trip even less productive and costly than last years’. The pro-whaler trolling is just a sign that they are all sour grapes about the fact that their side is slipping down.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Betty-Jo-McDonald/100001015986602 Betty Jo McDonald

    Since I am stuck in Camarillo in Ventura County and Obama doesn’t answer the phone about wildlife issues, I would like to picket the Japanese Embassy in Los Angeles. Are there any takers on a project like this?
    I would like to embarass the Japanese as much as I can. I could take my 89 year old tiny, Japanese Mother in Law and she would carry a picket sign and then ask to use the bathroom in the embassy and say when we were growing up we ate rice 3 times a day–we never ate whale. I could get her to say anything and what could they do?