by Michael dEstries
Categories: Animals, Film/TV.
Photo: Sea Shepherd

At 1,700 nautical miles southeast of New Zealand and 2,300 nautical miles southwest of Chile, the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society finally found what they were searching for.

“In the vastness of the Southern Ocean, Sea Shepherd’s ships have now found the Japanese fleet before they even began killing whales,” reads a release. “This is a momentous victory for the whales and precisely how Sea Shepherd’s President and Founder Captain Paul Watson had hoped to ring in the New Year.”

After a late start to the season — and some reported new tactics by the Japanese to spread the fleet over a wider area — it was unclear just how quickly the SS would run into their old nemesis. “Over the last seven campaigns that Sea Shepherd has been harassing them,” the release continues, “the illegal Japanese whalers have proven themselves to be nothing short of predictable and Captain Watson decided they were bluffing.”

On Watson’s Facebook page, the most recent update states that the fleet is one the run and that he expects no whales to be killed today.  Next up for the group is to locate the Nisshin Maru factory ship, with the intent to block access and prevent any whales that are killed from being processed. Stay tuned…

About Michael dEstries

Michael has been blogging since 2005 on issues such as sustainability, renewable energy, philanthropy, and healthy living. He regularly contributes to a slew of publications, as well as consulting with companies looking to make an impact using the web and social media. He lives in Ithaca, NY with his family on an apple farm.

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  • Michael Raymer

    Yes, stay tuned…..Stay tuned for the whalers to get an ass-kicking of biblical proportions. Stay tuned for the bleating of the pro-whaling sheep. Stay tuned for more nails in the whaling fleets economic coffin.

    Yes….I will be staying tuned.

    • crumpets are yummy

      Go home whaling scum-buckets…

      You are not wanted in the southern ocean! Go home and stay home!

      Great work sea shepherd…this anti-haling season is shaping up as the most successful ever. This is despite all the paid monkeys from the Ginza Glenn Inwood cash for commenting camp going hard at it and pulling their puddings like king Fu masters chopping shallots every time Sea Shepherd gets a mention.

      • Imforthewhales

        SSCS have caught up with the illegal whaling fleet and the japanese are spraying the zodiacs with water cannons.

        New Zealand-based Glenn Inwood, spokesman for Japan’s Tokyo-based Institute of Cetacean Research, which sponsors the whale hunt, said he had no comment.

        First time for everything!

      • Michael Raymer

        http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-110101-1.html

        “This year Sea Shepherd has the capability of keeping one of their ships on the whaling fleet for the duration of the Japanese whaling season that usually ends in middle to late March. “Our objective is to save the maximum number of whales and to maximize the financial losses of the whalers at the same time.” Captain Watson said in a statement from the Southern Ocean.”

        More on this below.

  • boo radley

    Great work sea Shepherd..happy new year to all the people who support Sea Shepherd and the entire anti-whaling universe.

    Major success this year on the anti-whaling front, and the illegal whalers have, as yet, not killed a single whale.

    Lets spare a thought today, this most happy new years day, for the tragic and no doubt despondent whale killer Glen Inwood and his lapdog partner in crime, david@tokyo.

    • AnimuX

      Huzzah!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hart-Noecker/100001623066825 Hart Noecker

    Time to sink the Japanese serial killers.

    • Imforthewhales

      No doubt the Japanese will be doing their best to sink the Gojira, ala Ady Gil style…but all SSCS have to do is to keep out of their flight path and give them hell …to stop them from killing whales and to to sink the whole bloody, illegal Japanese whaling industry economically.

    • AnimuX

      Sea Shepherd will sink them economically.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michel-Buxton/100000903843861 Michel Buxton

    rumors have it that the Nisshin Maru has been located by the helicopter and Gojira is on it’s way to block it… can anybody confirm that? If Sea Shepherd manages to prevent the whalers from killing a single whale and the whalers return to Japan empty handed will Japan end this whale “research” program? or will they return to the Southern Ocean?

    • boo radley

      They are well known as stubborn p***ks

      They might decode to go down very year regardless. All at the Japanese taxpayers expense.

    • Michael Raymer

      It all comes down to how SSCS staggers their boats so that at least one vessel is riding the Nisshin Maru’s stern. If they can rotate their ships so that someone is coming back from refueling before another has to leave, they have a chance of making the whalers the joke that we already know they are. Another tactic that comes to mind, after watching Season 3 is to keep the fuel burning stunts to a minimum. Late last season, when the Steve Irwin finally caught up to the Nisshin Maru, Paul left the stern to “play chicken” with the them from the front. In the end, I would not be surprised if that cost the Irwin a full days worth of fuel (at normal station keeping speed). No whaling means no whaling. Screw the stunts and the psychological warfare. Just stay glued to the stern, figure out what you need to do to stay there, take appropriate shipboard conservation measures, and STAY THERE FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE!!! No Whaling Means No Whaling.

      P.S. Right there, futhermuckers. I just criticised Paul Watson, and not for the first time. ‘Cause I ain’t no shill, unlike others here. Like Paul (ooops, I mean Admiral Watson), my only concern is of the welfare of the whales (and their babies, who the whalers like to hunt too).

      P.P.S. Happy New Year!

      • romika3

        Michael Raymer I have heard, from my sources, that Watson and his crew uses the “Battleship” game and floating banana peels to plot their strategy. Is there any truth to this? I predict that within two weeks, after the Christmas season settles and everybody has their new computers set up, there will be a staged incident and the circus will begin, the cameras will roll, and the money will flow in from tee shirt sales, old ladies, and people who want to be heroes at Friday afternoon cocktails parties.

      • Imforthewhales

        “O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth, That I am meek and gentle with these butchers! Thou art the ruins of the noblest species that has ever livèd, in and beyond the tides. Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood! Over thy wounds now do I prophesy – The disgrace of your cruel death has cloaked my species with shame everlasting and there will be retribution!”

      • crumpets are yummy

        “Michael Raymer I have heard, from my sources, that Watson and his crew uses the “Battleship” game and floating banana peels to plot their strategy. Is there any truth to this?”

        The floating banana peel seems to be very effective going by the success of this years campaign so far. I think they should stick with that one.

        Have they started scrapping the SS whale meat/ Oriental bluebird yet? My sources tell me that they are going to build a spaceship out of that hunk of steel and fly Glen Inwood to the moon. Is there any truth to this?

      • Michael Raymer

        ” the circus will begin, the cameras will roll, and the money will flow in from tee shirt sales, old ladies, and people who want to be heroes at Friday afternoon cocktails parties.”

        Actually, this is a very accurate statement (no sarcasm). This is, basically, what is going to happen. SSCS will issue the whalers an ass-kicking of biblical proportions (or so my “contacts” tell me), this victory will be shown to the world, more people will contribute big checks to SSCS….and next year (if the whalers haven’t given up by then) SSCS will be in even better shape to deliver yet another ass-kicking of biblical proportions.

        You guys are like the Nazi Propaganda Ministry. “Well, the Russians are 30 miles from Berlin but, we’re pretty confidant in our chances for taking over the world.” Keep dreaming. You’re wasting a lot of time on an industry that doesn’t stand a chance.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Romika$$$ doesn’t care about the japanese whalers or the sealers. He only cares about the $$$ that the Japanese whaling machine can make by taxpayer subsidies and the amount he can get paid by Glen Inwood for posting rubbish on anti-whaling sites.

      • romika3

        “The floating banana peel seems to be very effective going by the success of this years campaign so far. I think they should stick with that one.” thanks for confirming for me the reason why the SSCS crews run around the decks of their vessels like a troop of monkeys.

      • romika3

        ” the circus will begin, the cameras will roll, and the money will flow in from tee shirt sales, old ladies, and people who want to be heroes at Friday afternoon cocktails parties.”

        “Actually, this is a very accurate statement (no sarcasm). This is, basically, what is going to happen.” thanks for confirming for me that the SSCS is not a conservation organization but a TV show that markets a variety of promotional products and that Mr. Paul Watson is a Friday afternoon pesudo-hero that spends his off season on the cocktail circuit.

      • AnimuX

        *Yawn* You know it’s tiring reading the same old lines from the same old pro-whaling morons who do nothing but attempt to demonize Sea Shepherd.

        For the record, Paul Watson has been at this since the 1970s. He’s gone out to sea with little money and no publicity and he’s also gone out with loads of donations and television crews.

        Sea Shepherd maintains its status as a highly rated charity for putting the large majority of its funds into operational costs rather than administrative overhead like salaries.

        In other words, Watson and Sea Shepherd are not in it for the money.

        Frankly, the opinions of admitted baby seal skull bashers like romika who have been the subject of Sea Shepherd protest are about as worthless and twisted as their choice of careers.

      • romika3

        *Yawn* You know it’s tiring reading the same old lines from the same old SSCS morons who do nothing but attempt to demonize and attack the common frontline fisherperson.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Yawn* romika, whales are not fish.

      • AnimuX

        Baby seal bashing Canadians are not fishermen either. They’re sick individuals who will kill just about anything for money. If they were caught clubbing kittens and puppies to death they’d be thrown in prison, but for some reason the Canadian government supports the bloody and despicable destruction of baby seals by the clubs of scum like romika3.

      • romika3

        Animx: When one resorts to name calling it is a clear indication that they have lost the agruement and thus they begin to attack the individual rather than the is issue. Sorry, but you have proved me right in what I say.

      • Michael Raymer

        “P.P.S. Happy New Year!”

        I can’t help but notice that no one wished me a happy new year in return. I’m just sayin’….

      • AnimuX

        romika, every post you make is inevitably a rehashed version of the same “name calling” effort where you make false allegations about Sea Shepherd. So please, think of an original idea the next time you pride yourself in being a Canadian fisherman, when in reality your career is bludgeoning baby seals to death with a club.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michel-Buxton/100000903843861 Michel Buxton

    hell yeah!!! go sea shepherd!!!!

    • crumpets are yummy

      I’m researching the Japanese right now. They’re delicious!

  • http://none sea shepherd sea shepherd

    hopefully the whalers will return to Japan with 0 whales

    • crumpets are yummy

      sanc·tu·ar·y (from dictionary.com)

      –noun, plural -ar·ies.

      1.a sacred or holy place
      2.Judaism
      a.the Biblical tabernacle or the Temple in Jerusalem
      b.the holy of holies of these places of worship
      3.an especially holy place in a temple or church
      4.the part of a church around the altar; the chancel
      5.a church or other sacred place where fugitives were formerly entitled to immunity from arrest
      6. immunity afforded by refuge in such a place
      7. any place of refuge; asylum
      8.a tract of land where birds and wildlife, esp. those hunted for sport, can breed and take refuge in safety from hunters

    • David

      Yes and don’t forget that as is their right by ICRW Article V the Japanese filed an objection to the sanctuary, so it has no legal effect on their whaling activities.

      • Michael Raymer

        Yes and don’t forget that SSCS is, as we speak, issuing the whalers an ass-kicking of biblical proportions. I feel that this is a salient point which isn’t brought up enough.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Just because they object to the sanctuary does not give them the right to be whaling commercially.

      • MN Hope

        I object to certain things, do they not apply to me?

      • David

        Well MN it depends on whether you are signatory to a treaty that specifically allows objections, like the ICWR and CITES.

      • romika3

        “don’t forget that SSCS is, as we speak, issuing the whalers an ass-kicking of biblical proportions.” get real they are bobing around in the middle of the ocean, pretending to be pusedo pirates in front of the TV cameras, looking to create an issue so that they can get some good footage and using up doners hard earned money. Everybody so hung up with the fact that SCCS is chasing a few whaling vessels across the southern ocean I wonder if Watson is smart enough to figure out that they might be being lead!! I don’t expect the Japnanes to yield to the likes of the SSCS. We didn’t.

      • AnimuX

        Sorry romika but Japan fisheries officials have already publicly admitted that Sea Shepherd is effectively limiting the whaling catch and creating domestic political pressure within Japan. The plan to sink the whaling fleet economically is going better than expected.

  • http://none sea shepherd sea shepherd

    GO Sea Shepherd!!!

    • crumpets are yummy

      The Japanese whalers, the ICR and all those who are entrenched in the whale meat for profit industry are not ready for this century. They still behave like it’s the 19th Century.

      Slow.

  • http://none Wally

    GO Sea Shepherd!!!! The best of luck at stopping the Japanese from destroying a precious resource of our planet. The Whales!

  • http://www.herwinsvegancafe.com herwin

    a new year, a new headache for the whalers…

  • http://www.herwinsvegancafe.com herwin

    topic whaling :
    Iceland wants to become a member of the European Union. Political groups like the Party For The Animals in Holland (who are also represented in the European Parliament) are making a case that Iceland ONLY can become a member after it bans whaling. Since all european countries are anti whaling, and keeping in mind the recent ban on seal fur trade from Canada, its a pretty strong case and Iceland might have to choose between Whaling and becoming a European Union member.

    • Imforthewhales

      The whalers are being taken on left, right and center across the world. Is there no respite from this onslaught?

      Run and hide, whaling cowards, run and hide.

    • romika3

      Well, the recent ban of seal products will only impact approximately 1/3 of the market. The problem now is that the expected biomass (harp seal population) is expected to approach 9.5 million animals in 2011 up from 2.3 million. The harp seal has now become a treat to the North Atlantic ecosystem. These numbers would be fine and well if the integrity of the system was intact (ie sufficient numbers of predators to manage the harp seal population), but it is not. What the majority of “conservation” wanabes do not realize is that humans now have become an integral component of the ecosystem and one cannot expect to reset everything back to pre-human days or as Watson stated “reduce human population”. We now have a management role to play. This can be achieved by harvesting and utilizing the harvest for economic gain or culling where everything goes to the bottom. So all of you puddings who support organizations that wear blinders may in the end be doing more damage than good. But that’s not important, what is, is the tee shirt and the TV show!!!!!

      • Hufingraz

        I am from the East Coast of Canada, and I can tell you that the ecosystem will be fine, as long as the government & DFO keeps an eye on the Newfies. The Newfies overfished cod to near extinction, then tried to blame it on the seals. More seals just means more food for the polar bears & other predators such as sharks. Then their populations will increase, which will in-turn decrease the population of the seals. Mother Nature has a wonderful way of balancing things out. It is when you add humans & technology to the equation, that things become unbalanced.

      • romika3

        “The Newfies overfished cod to near extinction, then tried to blame it on the seals” Sorry, but you are not from eastern Canada if you were you would know that the Northern Cod Stocks were depleted by European offshore fleets. Newfoundlanders were inshore fishmen, moving to the offshore after the implementation of the 200 mile limit, however at that point the stocks were depleted. Also seals did not play a role here, however they may be impacting on the recovery of the Nothern cod stocks.

      • crumpets are yummy

        So you just let this happen romika3? You just sat back drinking beer and watched while someone swiped all your cod?

        Shame on you.

      • romika3

        Thus the hard work to extend the 90 mile limit to 200. The nose and the tail of the Grand Banks lie outside the 200 mile limit. This is still an issue with us.

      • crumpets are yummy

        If you had done something about it instead of letting foreign invaders over-fish the oceans, then you would still have a cod fishery.

    • romika3

      “The Animals in Holland (who are also represented in the European Parliament) are making a case that Iceland ONLY can become a member after it bans whaling.” Folks, have you ever wondered why Watson isn’t up in Icelandic waters performing for the cameras, pretending to be shot, attacking ships, dragging warps to foul props, his crew dancing across the deck pretending to be pseudo-pirates wearing the newest SSCS designer tee shirts and bandannas? It’s only a short run from SSCS home base and the Iceland takes more endangered fins than Japan. The answer is simple, Iceland, would not put up with Watson’s foolish, he would be gone in a day and thus no big TV show for next season.

      • AnimuX

        The fact is that Watson participated in the first ever direct action against Soviet whaling in 1975 without a fleet of steel ships at his disposal. Sea Shepherd has also taken action against Iceland in the past and may do so again in the future.

        It’s important to note that Iceland is killing HUNDREDS of endangered Fin whales… to sell and ship the meat to Japan.

        Japan currently takes more whales than any other nation on earth and acts as the world market for whale meat. Japan also spreads the most propaganda and uses its economic status to influence officials in the IWC through bribery for votes. Japan’s whalers kill endangered Sei whales, endangered Fin whales, vulnerable Sperm whales, Bryde’s whales, common Minke whales (many from the vulnerable J-stock), and Antarctic minke whales (which are hunted in an international whale sanctuary). It’s only fitting that so many environmental organizations have focused on Japan as the world’s worst offender.

        However, Iceland has not been forgotten. In fact, just last month 19 environmental organizations came together in a call for unilateral U.S. economic sanctions against Iceland according to U.S. national law.

        YOU CAN HELP!

        Write to U.S. Commerce Secretary Locke at: TheSec@doc.gov

        Ask Secretary Locke to certify that Iceland is subverting international whale conservation efforts!

        Ask him to advise the U.S. Secretary of State and the U.S. President to enact sanctions against Icelandic marine products (under the 1971 Pelly Amendment to the Fisherman’s Protective Act and 1979 Packwood-Magnuson Amendment to the Fishery Conservation and Management Act) until the commercial slaughter of whales, especially endangered species, is stopped!

      • David

        So 35 years ago he used direct action against the Russians. Has he been back since?

        Now why is Japan buying whale meat from Iceland if no one in Japan wants to buy or eat whale meat? But if you are right and Iceland is selling endangered Fin whale meat to Japan, then isn’t the SSCS at fault for the death of the endangered Fin whales rather than allowing Japan to take non-endangered Minke whales?

        Yes we all know that Japan is following the anti-whaling NGO’s example of buying votes in the IWC. Isn’t it kind of hypocritical for the NGOs to complain about a tactic that they used first?

      • crumpets are yummy

        David…back in teh day when Paul Watson was tackling the soviet whalers, the world of Russian whaling was in a differnt place than it is today.

        Commercial whaling collapsed with the end of the Soviet era…with that collapse, the fox farms that depended on whale meat as a food source also collapsed.

        Russian whaling now is more accurately described as “Chukotkan” whaling, in reference to the Chukotka region of north-eastern Siberia, the territory of the indigenous Chukchi and Yup’iit peoples.

        In contrast to the whaling excesses of the Soviet state, these indigenous peoples maintain small-scale,traditional whaling for survival, in accord with their ancient lifeways.

      • AnimuX

        Japan keeps its whaling industry going with tax funded subsidies and imports whale meat from Iceland and Norway for the same purpose: To protect entrenched bureaucrats (amakudari) who often take high paid positions within the same whaling industry they once oversaw as public officials.

      • David

        Animux, do you believe your own illogical posts?

        How can importing whale meat from Iceland that no one wants help protect entrenched bureaucrats?

        They don’t import from Norway, you may want to at least get the easy facts straight.

      • AnimuX

        By re-establishing international trade in whale meat Japanese officials seek to legitimize what’s been effectively outlawed by international agreements. Don’t be so short-sighted Dave.

        Also, Japan imports common minke whale meat from Norway. http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20090301a1.html

      • David

        I know you have trouble with English, Animux, but the article says PLAN. Find something that shows the PLAN has actually come to fruition and I will admit you are right.

      • AnimuX

        David, from the same article previously linked which you apparently failed to entirely read:

        “The Norwegian meat arrived at Nagoya port last June, but the Fisheries Agency waited until late January to file for permission to import it.”

        That’s whale meat from Norway in Japan and not just a PLAN, dick.

      • David

        Well obviously I did miss it or I would have said what I did.

        So you are right Norway is also exporting whale meat to Japan. Of course that is just more evidence that the claim of no one wanting whale meat is wrong, especially since Norway is sending Minke whale.

      • Michael Raymer

        As long as we all acknowledge that whaling is the industry and the claims to “Research” are all a sham and the ICR is lying to the world. All these pro-whaling posts are in defense of Japan using the whale as a consumable product rather than as a by-product of research. Which is what most of us know anyway. I just like to keep things on the record for the casual observer.

      • crumpets are yummy

        The Japanese who have their fingers in the whale pie are doing their best to kick-start the whale meat “culture “again by creating new markets for whale meat. The public don’t appear to want it particularly , hence the large stockpiles of whale meat in massive freezers. But they are hoping that by force feeding it to children in their school lunches, they will have a market where they can deliver nice mercury tainted whale meat to the kiddies. I suppose the ICR puts out a press release saying whale meat is good for you, good for your brain, or something equally as ignorant. Another reason why they may import whale meat is for pet food ( with a limited arable land space, beef is too expensive).

  • romika3

    What is of most importance is that SSCS and Watson get enough footage for next season’s Whale War’s and that they create an incident to get the requried media exposure to raise money. Nothing else matters includeing the whales. Remember what Watson said in his interview with Barbara Frum (CBC), he goes where the money is.

    • Imforthewhales

      So where do you go romika3? Sounds like you are describing the ICR.

    • MN Hope

      That interview is too outdated. You can’t quote him when the interview is about 30 years old. Sea Shepherd needed the money back then, and now they don’t.

      Now here’s an idea: Get some new resources. Earth Force, the CBC interview, and your other outdated resources have already been continuously shot down. The fact that you return to then so much just reinforces the fact that you’re a paid troll.

      • Chris H.

        MN Hope,

        what romika consistently omits when he brings up that old Frum interview is that Paul Watson is talking about Greenpeace and its fund-raising strategy, not SSCS.

        Romika knows that he’s being disingenuous when he infers that Paul Watson is talking about his own approach to fund-raising, but he does it anyway, because he figures that no one will bother to check.

      • Michael Raymer

        That’s the thing Chris. Everyone knows this but romika just has to keep trying to use it. It’s the debate equivalent of the ex mother-in-law who keeps showing up for Thanksgiving even though no one invited her.

      • crumpets are yummy

        We must have told Romika$$$ this before, surely?

        It is such an obvious mistake on the part of Romika$$$.

      • romika3

        That interview and Watson’s book reflects Watson’s thinking yesterday and today plain and simple. If Earthfore is outdated why is it still advertized on the SSCS web page. And here is another example, the harvesting of white coats stoped in 1987, that is 24 years ago year yet SSCS, PETA, HSUS and 17 other organizations, that make thier money of the back of the Canadain Seal Harvest, still do thier darnest to keep the myth alive.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Romika$$$… the difference between a white coat and a beater can be as little as 24 hours.

      • MN Hope

        Sure romika, because nothing can change in almost 30 years, and the USSR is still around, there is no way to measure carbon emissions, we can still board airplanes with small knives, leaded gasoline is still at the gas pump, Chevy released the refreshed Chevette recently, and NASA’s new Space Shuttle will be a revolutionary figure once it is ready for use.

        Yeah, nothing can change. And we aren’t talking about seals here, or HSUS, or PETA, or any other org, we are talking about your constantly outdated resources. Earthforce is still a book, and still can help out aspiring activists, and it isn’t advertised on Sea Shepherd’s site, it is just for sale there. If it is, than I haven’t come across it.

        Maybe I should copy+paste this, and save it so when you bring this back up, romika, I won’t have to spend more time saying the same thing.

      • romika3

        “Earthforce is still a book, and still can help out aspiring activists, and it isn’t advertised on Sea Shepherd’s site, it is just for sale there.” Earthform can be found on the SSCS web site at:

        http://shop.seashepherd.org/store/p/192-Earthforce-.aspx

      • crumpets are yummy

        I havn’t read that yet romika3, thanks!

      • MN Hope

        Yes romika, look at what you quoted.

        ‘Earthforce is still a book, and still can help out aspiring activists, and it isn’t advertised on Sea Shepherd’s site, it is just for sale there.’

        ‘…it is just for sale there.’

        ‘…it is just for sale there.’

        Never did I say it was not for sale anymore.

      • David

        So MN, the SSCS is willing to make money off a book that you claim misrepresents Paul Watson’s current beliefs. I guess you must believe the SSCS is either stupid or just after all the money they can get however they can get it. Or do you have some other logical explanation for why they would sell and outdated book?

      • romika3

        “what romika consistently omits when he brings up that old Frum interview is that Paul Watson is talking about Greenpeace and its fund-raising strategy, not SSCS.” Watson is a co-founder of Greenpeace. The philosophy of that organization refects Wastsons. I am willing to beat that SSCS will not be back in the Med next year for that reason.

      • MN Hope

        Hey, it’s money. Books are still sold elsewhere that don’t reflect current opinion, so why should Sea Shepherd be singled out?

        romika…. Paul was indeed a co-founder of Greenpeace, but he was kicked out BECAUSE of his tactics and philosophy. Greenpeace hates him, and reject every association with him (except when beneficial to them, it appears), including Paul’s beliefs and etc. Explain more why you think Sea Shepherd won’t be returning to the Mediterranean.

  • agni refugee

    I keep reading about ‘poaching’ and ‘illegal Japanese whalers’. I have great difficulty believing that Japan is actually in violation of any international law by its whaling activities.

    Therefore I am offering to donate $1000 US dollars to the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society if any of their members or supporters can show me exactly what international law the Japanese are breaking. Just quote the section from the relevant international treaty, principle of customary international law, judgment from international legal tribunal etc that makes the Japanese whaling illegal and I will donate $1000 USD to the SSCS.

    Feel free to ask Admiral Paul Watson to provide you with the evidence. Watson comes here personally I’ll double the amount.

    • agni refugee

      When asked about his lack of action against the Australian Fishermen who are rapidly depleting the Tuna population, Paul Watson said “Sea Shepherd is an anti-poaching organization and we target illegal operations. The tuna poaching in the Med is epidemic. We are not a protest organization. Australian bluefin tuna fishing is unfortunately legal and should… be protested. Sea Shepherd however intervenes against unlawful fishing.”

      By this logic, the SSCS should not be protesting against legal operations like the Canadian seal hunt, the Taiji dolphin catch or the permit whaling program.

      Unless these are illegal. How exactly is the Japanese whaling illegal? And if it is not, since the SSCS are not a protest organization, why are they in the Southern Ocean molesting Japanese fishermen?

      If it is illegal, it should be simple to show me?

    • Michael Raymer

      http://www.seashepherd.org/who-we-are/laws-and-charters.html

      You’re questions above are rather interesting given that you are on the internet. The above page should answer all your questions and secure that $1000 donation. As far as Admiral Watson coming here personally, he’s a bit busy for the next couple months. If you find the time, you might try reading the article at the top of the page. It goes into some detail as to the nature of his busy-ness.

      And for future reference, the next time you have $1000 to donate, if they don’t have a website explaining who they are and what they are doing with your donation, you probably don’t want to donate to them.

      • agni refugee

        But nothing on that page indicates that whaling is illegal. You mean Admiral Watson has just made that all up?

      • crumpets are yummy

        Its very simple. Commercial whaling is banned and has been since 1986.

        BTW Japanese whalers are not fishermen..whales are not fish.

      • agni refugee

        Commercial whaling is not banned. Any non-state party to the ICRW treaty is free to whale commercially. Any state party to the ICRW is free to whale commercially if it filed an object to the moratorium. This is how iceland and Norway whale commercially, and do so legally, while being members of the IWC.

      • agni refugee

        But back to the Japanese.

        This is from Hansard (the record of the British parliament), 4 Mar 2009, House of Lords. Here the British Minister is replying to a question about the legality of Japanese whaling.

        Asked by Lord Ashcroft

        To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether any of the options presented for consideration to the United Kingdom and other member nations of the International Whaling Commission on 2 February would (a) legalise Japan’s catches for up to five years in the Southern Ocean sanctuary; (b) legalise Japan’s catches of coastal minke whales; and (c) legalise commercial hunting by Japan of minke whales, Bryde’s whales, sei whales or sperm whales in the North Pacific Ocean. [HL1631]

        Lord Hunt of Kings Heath: Under the terms of Article VIII of the International Convention on the Regulation of Whaling, Japan’s lethal research takes of minke whales in the Southern Ocean and of minke, Bryde’s, sei and sperm whales in the North Pacific are, regrettably, quite legal.

        The Minister of State, Department of Energy and Climate Change & Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Lord Hunt of Kings Heath)

      • romika3

        And where does it state that an NGO can use violence, employ terror, and use terror tactics etc? Where does it give Mr. Watson and his bunch of hoodlums the permission to go dancing across the ice pans of Eastern Canada taunting and threating fishermen who have been participating in a legal and managed harvest for years. An where does it give Mr. Watson permission to continue, threaten the lives of fishermen and their families, to promote hate, and to support the demonization of a culture. If the United Nations supports this then it is time they close their doors. Folks, truth is Mr. Watson does not have permission to do what he does, he and the SSCS are basicly no different than the priates that attack ships off the east coast of Africa.

      • agni refugee

        This is what the IWC itself says”

        “A major area of discussion in recent years has been the issuing of permits by member states for the killing of whales for scientific purposes. The use of such permits is not new. The right to issue them is enshrined in Article VIII of the 1946 Convention. Whilst member nations must submit proposals for review, in accordance with the Convention, it is the member nation that ultimately decides whether or not to issue a permit, and this right overrides any other Commission regulations including the moratorium and sanctuaries. Article VIII also requires that the animals be utilised once the scientific data have been collected.

        Prior to 1982, when it was agreed that a moratorium would come into effect in 1986, over 100 permits were issued by a number of governments including Canada, USA, USSR, South Africa and Japan.”

      • agni refugee

        The United Nations supports nothing Watson does.

        Paul Watson was convicted under section 430(3) of the Canadian Criminal Code and sentenced to two years probation and thirty days imprisonment.

        This is from his appeal (which he lost). The Justice of Appeal is referring to the original Trial Judge

        “Parenthetically, the trial judge also instructed the jury — as a matter of law — that the World Charter for Nature, did not consti­tute legal justification or excuse under s. 429(2). That instruction is not challenged in this appeal. A legal justification or excuse makes legal what would otherwise be a crime.”

        Paul Watson claims he was acquitted under colour of right. In fact he was indicted, tried by jury and convicted of an offense with maximum penalty of ten years imprisonment. This is the equivalent of a class D felony in the USA.

        This is what the trial judge told the jury at Watson’s trial

        “as a matter of law again, which you must accept from me, that even if you accept that the accused believed that the acts which he did were not a crime, because they were committed outside the two hundred mile limit; that cannot constitute the defence of “colour of right” because it is based on an ignorance of the law.”

      • crumpets are yummy

        Note that you use the term “lethal research”.

        The question was not about commercial whaling.

        Japan wants commercial whaling to happen, sooner
        rather than later. Japan, as of June 2010, is considering withdrawing from the International Whaling Commission if no progress is made towards easing an international ban on commercial whaling.

        Japan is still a member of the IWC.

        As it has not left the IWC, then it is bound not to conduct commercial whaling.

        The fact of the matter that it is commercially whaling, and sometimes inside whale sanctuaries which were set up to protect whales.

        Sanctuary

        8.a tract of land where birds and wildlife, esp. those hunted for sport, can breed and take refuge in safety from hunters.

        Note that Japan routinely breaks the law in regards to its commercial fishing and commercial whaling activities.

        This breaking of the law led recently to the de-flagging of the Oriental Bluebird ( or SS Whale meat) which has now been sent to the scrapyards of China after the authorities gave the Oriental Bluebird the maximum penalty of 10,000 Balboas (US$10,000) having ruled that Japanese whalers were in violation of several domestic and international regulations, that related to its permissible use, the safety of human life and the preservation of the marine environment.

        Japan was unable to re-flag the SS whale meat/ oriental Bluebird, as it had ratified the AGREEMENT TO PROMOTE COMPLIANCE
        WITH INTERNATIONAL CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT
        MEASURES BY FISHING VESSELS ON THE HIGH SEAS whcih states…

        (ii) no authorization for such fishing vessel to be used for fishing on the high seas has been withdrawn by another Party within the last three years.

        Thus having lost its flag, japan was duty bound not attempt a re-flagging within 3 years.

        (b) The provisions of subparagraph (a) above shall also apply in respect of fishing vessels previously registered in the territory of a State which is not a Party to this Agreement, provided that sufficient information is available to the Party concerned on the circumstances in which the authorization to fish was suspended or withdrawn.

        The Japanese government is spending vast amounts of taxpayers’ money to defend the indefensible and militarise a hunt of endangered whales inside an internationally designated whale sanctuary, for a programme that is neither scientifically or economically credible, and has now been proven to be using illegal vessels.

      • crumpets are yummy

        agni…what do you think of the recent corruption scandal involving the Japanese whaling authorities?

      • agni refugee

        Japan does not conduct commercial whaling.

        It is however free to do so if it so chose. Both Iceland and Norway whale commercially. Japan filed an objection to the southern ocean sanctuary and is free to whale there.

      • agni refugee

        The KKS and their gifts of whale meat is a matter for Japanese authorities. It is a trivial unimportant matter. A few boxes of whale meat and what may be petty bribery.

        Nothing changes the essential legal right of Japan to conduct whaling activities.

      • agni refugee

        Regarding the Hiyo Maru #2 (Oriental Bluebird):
        Japan broke no law regarding its reflagging.

        Note what the convention says:

        “(d) Notwithstanding the provisions of subparagraphs (a) and (b) above, a Party may authorize a fishing vessel, to which those subparagraphs would otherwise apply, to be used for fishing on the high seas, where the Party concerned, after having taken into account all relevant facts, including the circumstances in which the fishing authorization has been withdrawn by the other Party or State, has determined that to grant an authorization to use the vessel for fishing on the high seas would not undermine the object and purpose of this Agreement.”

        Thus the reflagging was legal under section 5(d).

      • crumpets are yummy

        agni refugee, January 1, 2011 at 9:13 pm

        Japan does not conduct commercial whaling.

        *yes it does

      • crumpets are yummy

        Agni…sorry, but the Oriental Bluebird has not been reflagged.

        The flag was taken away from the OB because it was breaking the law. It was not registered to transport whale meat & it also broke the law in refueling other ships where it was not supposed to.

        As a result Japan is unable to re-flag the OB therefore it is now on its way to China as scrap metal.

        The whale meat scandal has simply highlighted that the whole commercial whaling enterprise by Japan is corrupt. of course we already know this but now it is big news in Japan and people there are starting to wake up.

      • agni refugee

        “the Oriental Bluebird has not been reflagged.”

        Actually it was. It was renamed the “Hiyo Maru” and used to resupply the whaling fleet until it was sold for scrap in 2010.

      • agni refugee

        “The whale meat scandal has simply highlighted that the whole commercial whaling enterprise by Japan is corrupt. ”

        Minor corruption and bribery occurs all over the world in all industries.
        Would we shut down the entire construction industry because some contractors bribe inspectors? Would we say the entire industry is corrupt?

        This is just absurd exaggeration. It shows the desperation of Greenpeace that this is all they come come up with. Even Paul Watson dismisses the entire affair and the two Aomori thieves as “common burglars”

      • AnimuX

        Japan’s entire modern history as an industrial whaling nation is example enough of corruption.

        Japan is historically guilty of violating size limits, species protections, sanctuary boundaries, all manner of quotas, and even facilitated pirate whaling all over the world (that’s front companies with foreign labor killing whales in secret without regard for regulations or quotas to smuggle the unreported meat back to Japan).

        Whaling insiders like Isao Kondo and unnamed informants such as the whaler who tipped off Greenpeace to the whale meat embezzlement scandal have written and spoken about this as well. Not to mention the evidence of pirate whaling gathered by UN recognized investigator, Nick Carter.

        Professor Jun Morikawa, author of “Whaling in Japan: Power, Politics, and Diplomacy”, has stated the whaling is supported by Japan’s government in order to secure funding and political support for entrenched fisheries bureaucrats (amakudari) who often take high paying jobs in the whaling industry they once oversaw as public officials.

        Today Japan justifies its continued subversion of international whaling regulations with Article VIII but the industry has not fundamentally changed from the first time Japan used this loophole. In 1976, the IWC set a zero quota for Bryde’s whales and, in response, Japan issued itself a research quota and killed over 200 of the protected whales. Whaling in Japan is a long standing example of bureaucratic corruption and arrogance at its worst.

      • romika3

        “As far as Admiral Watson coming here personally, he’s a bit busy for the next couple months. If you find the time, you might try reading the article at the top of the page. It goes into some detail as to the nature of his busy-ness.” First a correction, Watson is not an Admiral nor has his Captians Papers and secondly I have information form a former crew member that Watson spends quited a bit of time down below in his bunk doing nothing.

      • agni refugee

        Anti-Japanese polemics aside, whaling is no different than any other occupation. The fact remains that it is perfectly legal. The fact remains that the Japanese are catching a small number of Minke whales. The fact remains that the Minke whales has never been endangered. The numbers being taken are less than 0.1% of the local Minke population. The catch is no threat to the species survival. It is in fact totally sustainable. True conservationists would support the sustainable harvest from a non-endangered Minke population.

      • AnimuX

        Unfortunately, agni presents several pro-whaling opinions as fact.

        1) Whaling is not perfectly legal. A moratorium on commercial whaling has been in place since 1986. Japan, Iceland and Norway simply continue to defy the whaling ban due to the fact that there are no punitive mechanisms in the ICRW. Several international legal panels have concluded the whaling is done in violation of international agreements. Australia has filed against Japan’s whaling with the International Court of Justice. The International Whaling Commission has repeatedly called upon industrial whaling nations to stop killing whales. The USA has enacted trade sanctions over whaling. The legality of whaling is disputed.

        2) According to the IUCN, Antarctic Minke whale populations have have declined significantly. If the data is confirmed, this species would be classified as endangered.

        http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/2480/0

        “If the decline proves to be largely or mainly an artifact, or proves to have been transient in the light of analyses of more recent data, the species would qualify as Least Concern. If it were real, the species would qualify as Endangered. Pending resolution of the uncertainties relating to the apparent decline, however, the species is listed as Data Deficient (DD).”

        3) There are no “anti-Japanese” polemics here. The Save the Whales movement came about when people around the world learned more about whales including the fact that most large whale species were driven to the brink of extinction due to over-exploitation by the world’s whaling industries. Criticism of Japan’s whaling program is the direct result of Japan’s long history of violation and subversion of whaling regulations and whale conservation efforts.

        4) Japan does not only kill Antarctic Minke whales. The whalers annually kill endangered Fin whales, endangered Sei whales, vulnerable Sperm whales, Bryde’s whales, common Minke whales (many from the vulnerable J-stock), and Antarctic Minke whales.

      • Michael Raymer

        So, I’ve kind of lost track. Are you going to send in that $1000 or what?

      • agni refugee

        “Whaling is not perfectly legal. A moratorium on commercial whaling has been in place since 1986. ”

        The IWC moratoium does not bind non-state parties. It does not bind state parties that filed objections to the moratorium.
        Under the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, a state cannot be bound to a decision made by other nation states.

        The commercial moratorium cannot override Article VIII of the ICRW treaty (that permits whaling under permit).

        This is why Iceland whales legally. Why Norway whales legally. Why Japan whales legally.

        As the IWC itself says “this right overrides any other Commission regulations including the moratorium and sanctuaries.”

        So no declaration of sanctuaries or moratoriums can nullify article VIII of the treaty. This is international law.

        “A major area of discussion in recent years has been the issuing of permits by member states for the killing of whales for scientific purposes. The use of such permits is not new. The right to issue them is enshrined in Article VIII of the 1946 Convention. Whilst member nations must submit proposals for review, in accordance with the Convention, it is the member nation that ultimately decides whether or not to issue a permit, and this right overrides any other Commission regulations including the moratorium and sanctuaries. Article VIII also requires that the animals be utilised once the scientific data have been collected.
        Prior to 1982, when it was agreed that a moratorium would come into effect in 1986, over 100 permits were issued by a number of governments including Canada, USA, USSR, South Africa and Japan. ”

        State parties to the ICRW can file objections to decisions of the IWC. This was the basis of proposed 2008 US law that would have nullified a potential IWC ban on US subsistence whaling.

        “H.R. 6624: Whaling Convention Amendments Act of 2008
        To amend the Whaling Convention Act so that it expressly applies to aboriginal subsistence whaling, and in particular, authorizes the Secretary of Commerce to set bowhead whale catch limits in the event that the IWC fails to adopt such limits.”

      • agni refugee

        “Whaling is not perfectly legal.”

        Yes it is.
        Iceland and Norway both whale legally. So does Japan.
        So does Canada.

        Canada isn’t a member of the IWC and is not bound by any decision.

        Iceland and Norway both files objections to the moratorium.

        Japan filed an objection but whales under permit.

        I suggest you actually read the ICRW treaty instead of repeating misinformation about it. You may be surprised to learn what is in that treaty and what is legal and what is not.

      • agni refugee

        “Are you going to send in that $1000 or what?”

        As soon as someone quotes the international law that bans whaling. It must be written down somewhere.

      • Michael Raymer

        So I take it, that’s a no to the $1000?

      • agni refugee

        “So I take it, that’s a no to the $1000?”

        Just quote me the section of the law that bans whaling and I’ll donate the $1000

      • Michael Raymer

        “As soon as someone quotes the international law that bans whaling. It must be written down somewhere.”

        I provided the link above. You have to actually read the documents, not just the titles.

        You seem intent on intellectualising this issue. That is your perogative. The fact of the matter is that whaling is an archaic, cruel and inhumane industry being perpetrated by cruel, inhumane people with an archaic mindset. Whales are a higher order animal species that is capable of great suffering, both physically and emotionally. Just because another animal species isn’t human, we do not have the automatic right to kill it. The methods of “harvesting” whales does not insure a swift death, the whalers specifically target baby whales to exploit the protective nature of the parents, and there is no need for this meat anywhere in the world. No one in Japan is going to starve because whales weren’t killed and no one elsewhere in the world wants to eat it. And oh yeah, The United Nations World Charter for Nature empowers SSCS to do what they are doing.

        There is one vitally important fact to remember: Sea Shepherd is out there at this very moment, conducting anti-whaling operations, they are well funded, and no one is stopping them. New Zealand isn’t stopping them, Australia isn’t stopping them and Japan sure as hell isn’t stopping them.

      • David

        And oh no, The United Nations World Charter for Nature does not empowers SSCS to do what they are doing. This was stated by the judge in Paul’s trial and in his own defense he claimed colour of right, try looking it up, it means he claims was mistaken in be he had an honest and resonable belief that the UN WCfN gave him authority.

      • agni refugee

        “I provided the link above.”

        Nothing in that link indicates that the Japanese are breaking any law.

        Something is either illegal or it is not. If something is illegal there are laws written down somewhere that make it so. Some lawmaking body passed those laws.

        So I repeat myself. What international treaty bans whaling?

        I have already provided a quote from the British Parliamentary Hansard that states the official position of the British Government on the Japanese whaling – that it is perfectly legal. You claim to dispute this position but cannot provide evidence to the contrary?

      • agni refugee

        “And oh yeah, The United Nations World Charter for Nature empowers SSCS to do what they are doing.”

        No it does not.

        Supreme Court of Newfoundland — Court of Appeal
        Rex v. Watson
        Date: 19990723
        Docket: 95/168

        “Parenthetically, the trial judge also instructed the jury — as a matter of law — that the World Charter for Nature, did not consti­tute legal justification or excuse under s. 429(2).”

      • Michael Raymer

        My evidence to the contrary is that SSCS is in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary right now, intervening against whaling activities and no one is stopping them. When they need to refuel they will be able to pull in to the closest port, and no one will stop them. They will be free to refuel and reprovision, and no one will stop them. They will be greeted by appreciative supporters who will gladly donate money and supplies, and no one will stop them. And then they will leave port and go back and continue intervening against whaling, and no one will stop them. No one stopped them when they were one boat, no one stopped them when they were two boats and no one seems to be stopping them with three boats.

      • Michael Raymer

        Could someone explain to me what a court in Newfoundland has to do with whaling in Antarctica? And could someone explain what credibility a Canadian court has on the subjects of whaling, sealing, logging, fishing, fish-farms and pollution? Canada’s conservation record is as abysmal as it is depressing. Both coasts have gone down the tubes thanks more to Canadian government incompetence and pandering than to any single industry.

        Let’s keep our eye on the ball, folks. The topic at hand is how SSCS is in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary as we speak, issueing the whalers an ass-kicking of biblical proportions. The events are already in place to where the whalers could well and truly go home empty handed. An already weakened whaling fleet is already on the defensive and they have shown themselves, in the past, to be incapable of stopping SSCS once spotted and pursued. If you would like to wring your hands about a suspect Newfoundland court, be my guest. It’s doing your guys a fat lotta good.

      • agni refugee

        “intervening against whaling activities and no one is stopping them.”

        THAT is your proof that whaling is somehow illegal?

        So if Japan sent a Coast Guard Cutter to enforce an exclusion zone around the whaling fleet that would make things magically legal?

      • David

        “Could someone explain to me what a court in Newfoundland has to do with whaling in Antarctica?”

        Sure Mike, no problem. It is where Paul Watson claimed that he was mistaken in his belief that the UN WCfN gives him any authority. So Paul’s statements in that court in Newfoundland prove your assertion that the UN WCfN gives Paul or the SSCS any authority in Antarctica wrong.

      • Michael Raymer

        “So if Japan sent a Coast Guard Cutter to enforce an exclusion zone around the whaling fleet that would make things magically legal?”

        It would be the answer to my prayers if they did. If Japan sent a Coast Guard cutter to the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, Australia would have no choice but to send their own. New Zealand would probably have to get into it also. Game over. There’s no way the whalers would attempt to continue whaling with that much scrutiny. The whole point to SSCS being there is because the relevant governments refuse to take action themselves. Hell, I wish the U.S. Navy would get involved. Put a Burke-class destroyer on the stern of the Nisshin Maru, let’s see if they come back.

      • agni refugee

        Except that both the US and Australia are military allies of Japan. Their ships hold exercises and train each other. Neither nation will engage in a conflict over whaling. If the JCG arrests Watson on the high seas, nobody will intervene.

      • AnimuX

        It never fails that when the legality of whaling comes up in a debate the pro-whaling antagonists insist that Japan, Iceland, and Norway can simply shrug off multiple international agreements, resolutions or treaties.

        By their logic, Iran and North Korea can legally trade nukes child prostitutes on the open market too.

        Jus inter gentes, anyone?

      • Michael Raymer

        “Except that both the US and Australia are military allies of Japan. Their ships hold exercises and train each other. Neither nation will engage in a conflict over whaling. If the JCG arrests Watson on the high seas, nobody will intervene.”

        Like I said, I hope it happens. Let’s see what kind of reception a JCG cutter receives in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary. No “conflict” would have to ensue. Just the presence of all this “official” attention would make the whalers stay home. Whalers aren’t exactly known for courage. If the JCG ever shows up, let alone try to arrest someone, the Aussies would be in their face in a heartbeat and the JCG would back down.

      • agni refugee

        “Japan, Iceland, and Norway can simply shrug off multiple international agreements, resolutions or treaties.”

        There is no international agreement or treaty that prevents Iceland, Norway or Japan from whaling.
        Not a single one.

        As I said, the whaling by Japan, Iceland, Norway, Canada and even the USA is perfectly legal.

      • crumpets are yummy

        “The IWC moratoium does not bind non-state parties. It does not bind state parties that filed objections to the moratorium.
        Under the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, a state cannot be bound to a decision made by other nation states.

        The commercial moratorium cannot override Article VIII of the ICRW treaty (that permits whaling under permit).”

        Japan has not objected tot eh moratorium. it tried to, but what you failed to point out is that Japan withdrew its objection after the USA came down hard on it.

        Therefore, as part of the IWC and as a party who has NOT objected, they are bound by the IWC NOT to whale commercially.

        Japan is a country that has been found out may times trying to break the rules.

    • agni refugee

      So can nobody name this international law that bans whaling? No quote of the section that bans what the Japanese are doing?

      • crumpets are yummy

        Australia has already deemed Japans whaling to be illegal in a recent court case.

        New Zealand will follow suit.

        The court states that since 2000 the Japanese whalers have killed 3,558 minke whales and 13 fin whales in the waters off Antarctica.

        Justice James Alsop ruled that the Japanese company, which did not appear in court at any time during the proceedings, has violated the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999, or the EPBC Act.

        The company’s offenses are having “killed, injured, taken and interfered with Antarctic minke whales (Balaenoptera bonaerensis) and fin whales (Balaenoptera physalus) and injured, taken and interfered with humpback whales (Megaptera novaeangliae) in the Australian Whale Sanctuary…”

        Australia’s sovereignty in Antarctica is the jurisdictional basis for Australia declaring under its own domestic laws a whale sanctuary within its exclusive economic zone of 200 nautical miles under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, UNCLOS.

        Judge Alsop declared in his ruling that “the waters within 200 nautical miles from the Australian Antarctic Territory land mass are within the Australian Whale Sanctuary.”

        The judge acknowleged that “Australia’s claim to sovereignty over the Australian Antarctic Territory is recognised only by four nations (New Zealand, France, Norway and the United Kingdom), themselves with asserted (and otherwise disputed) claims over various parts of the Antarctic land mass.”

        “Japan rejects Australia’s purported exercise of jurisdiction over waters that are considered by Japan to be the high seas,” Judge Alsop wrote. “This is not a ground for invalidity of the EPBC Act: the sovereign claim by Australia to the Australian Antarctic Territory is not a matter capable of being questioned in this Court in this proceeding…”

        Judge Alsop ordered the company to stop whaling immediately.

        Can anyone tell me the International law that makes Sea Shepherd illegal>?

      • crumpets are yummy

        The IWC has instructed Japan to stop killing whales in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary
        http://www.iwcoffice.org/conservation/sanctuaries.htm

        As stated in Resolution 2007-1 below:

        RECALLING that the Commission has repeatedly requested Contracting Parties to refrain from issuing special permits for research involving the killing of whales within the Southern Ocean Sanctuary, has expressed deep concern at continuing lethal research within the Southern Ocean Sanctuary, and has also recommended that scientific research involving the killing of cetaceans should only be permitted where critically important research needs are addressed;

        the IWC is:

        CONVINCED that the aims of JARPA II do not address critically important research needs;

        the IWC:

        FURTHER CALLS UPON the Government of Japan to suspend indefinitely the lethal aspects of JARPA II conducted within the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary.

        Resolution 2007-1 (RESOLUTION ON JARPA) is located on the IWC’s website at:
        http://www.iwcoffice.org/Meetings/resolutions/resolution2007.htm

        The IWC established the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary in 1994

      • agni refugee

        The IWC cannot instruct Japan to do anything. Resolutions of the IWC are simply political statements. They cannot change the rights under the ICRW treaty.
        The law is the law.

        “Australia has already deemed Japans whaling to be illegal in a recent court case”

        Japan does not whale in Australian waters. In his original judgment Justice Allsop acknowledged that his ruling was futile because other countries did not recognize any Aussie claim to Antarctic waters.

        The situation is exactly like Saddam Hussein’s claim that Kuwait was the 19th province of Iraq.
        The Australian parliament, like the Iraqi one, passes laws laying claim to territory that nobody else recognizes. Australian courts, like Iraqi ones issues judgments that futile.

        Austrlia has made no attempt at enforcement because their EEZ extension was a violation of the Antarctic Treaty. Many countries filed notices with the UN Secretary General informing him that they would not recognize the Aussie claim.

        The US, Russia, France, India all refused to recognize any Aussie claim.

        So did Japan.

        The ruling by Allsop is null and void.

    • agni refugee

      “Could someone explain to me what a court in Newfoundland has to do with whaling in Antarctica?”

      Canadian Courts of Appeal are considered courts of higher record and their decisions are cited all over the world. It is a matter of law that the World Charter for Nature does not authorize the SSCS to throw toxic Butyric acid.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Well go out and stop them then agni! if thats what you think!

        The judge in Canada was probably a pro-sealer and had bias issues. A bit like the courts in japan.

      • crumpets are yummy

        On 23 July 1982, members of the IWC voted by the necessary three-quarters majority to implement a pause on commercial whaling. The relevant text reads:“ Not withstanding the other provisions of paragraph 10, catch limits for the killing for commercial purposes of whales from all stocks for the 1986 coastal and the 1985/86 pelagic seasons and thereafter shall be zero. This provision will be kept under review, based upon the best scientific advice, and by 1990 at the latest the Commission will undertake a comprehensive assessment of the effects of this decision on whale stocks and consider modification of this provision and the establishment of other catch limits.[14]

      • crumpets are yummy

        World Charter for Nature: Implementations

        21. States and, to the extent they are able, other public authorities, international organizations, individuals, groups and corporations shall:

        (a) Co-operate in the task of conserving nature through common activities and other relevant actions, including information exchange and consultations

        (b) Establish standards for products and other manufacturing processes that may have adverse effects on nature, as well as agreed methodologies for assessing these effects

        (c) Implement the applicable international legal provisions for the conservation of nature and the protection of the environment

        (d) Ensure that activities within their jurisdictions or control do not cause damage to the natural systems located within other States or in the areas beyond the limits of national jurisdiction

        (e) Safeguard and conserve nature in areas beyond national jurisdiction

        22. Taking fully into account the sovereignty of States over their natural resources, each State shall give effect to the provisions of the present Charter through its competent organs and in co-operation with other States.

        23. All persons, in accordance with their national legislation, shall have the opportunity to participate, individually or with others, in the formulation of decisions of direct concern to their environment, and shall have access to means of redress when their environment has suffered damage or degradation.

        24. Each person has a duty to act in accordance with the provisions of the present Charter, acting individually, in association with others or through participation in the political process, each person shall strive to ensure that the objectives and requirements of the present Charter are met.

        This UN Charter was upheld in 1995 when Captain Paul Watson cited the Charter as his authority to order Spanish and Cuban drag trawlers off the Nose and Tail of the Grand Banks of Newfoundland. Captain Watson had been arrested in this area, outside of the Canadian 200 mile limit, by Canadian authorities and was charged with felony mischief.

        During the court proceedings, the jury was advised by the Judge that Canada was a signatory to the World Charter for Nature, and as such, they must take the Charter into full account.

        Captain Watson was acquitted “by reason of colour of right,” and at the same time established a Canadian precedent for using the Charter to defend actions of intervention against illegal fishing activities.

        Note: Colour of Right is a common law defense defined as “an honestly held belief in entitlement to property” (Source: Jurist Canada)

      • crumpets are yummy

        International Laws and Charters
        Sea Shepherd campaigns are guided by the United Nations World Charter for Nature. Sections 21-24 of the Charter provides authority to individuals to act on behalf of and enforce international conservation laws.
        Sea Shepherd cooperates fully with all international law enforcement agencies and its enforcement activities complying with standard practices of law and policing enforcement.
        Sea Shepherd adheres to the utilization of non-violent principles in the course of all actions and has taken a standard against violence in the protection of the oceans.
        The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is dedicated to working towards cooperative agreements between nations to protect species and habitats according to SSCS Mandate.

        Sea Shepherd Conservation Society respects and acts in accordance with the following international treaties, declarations, conventions, and charters:

        The World Charter for Nature
        U.N. Doc. A/37/51 (1982)

        The International Whaling Commission (IWC)

        Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES)
        March 3rd, 1973, Washington, D.C.

        United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea
        December 10th, 1982, Montego Bay

        The Convention of Antarctic Marine Living Resources (CCAMLR)

        The Northwest Atlantic Fisheries Convention (NAFO)

        International Convention for Conservation of Atlantic Tuna (ICCAT)

        The Declaration of the United Nations Conference on the Human Environment
        June 5th -16th, 1972, Stockholm, Sweden

        ASEAN Agreement on the Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources
        July 9th, 1985, Kuala Lumpur

        The Berne Convention

        Convention on the Conservation of Migratory Species

      • Michael Raymer

        All this was explained to agni refugee in my original post. And I figured at the time we were being visited by the latest Inwood inspired troll. The $1000 offer is and has been bogus, so we have another liar on our hands. David, Matt, romika….meet agni refugee. You can call him/her agni for short, if you wish. Agni will be staying in your bunkhouse. Kimitake seems to have moved on, so you can give agni his bunk. Considering who the last owner was, fresh linen would probably be a reeeeally good idea.

        Agni, from my side of the aisle, welcome. I look forward to not taking you seriously while making you look foolish at the same time. But please be assured, if you are still here when the next holiday season rolls around, no matter how acrimonious our relationship has become, I will wish you a Merry X-mas and Happy New Year (like I tried to do this year and no one reciprocated). If there is anything I can do to make your stay less pleasant, to make your credibility a laughingstock, or to shine a light on your naive and outdated opinions, you have but to call. I remain at your service.

      • agni refugee

        “Captain Watson was acquitted “by reason of colour of right,” and at the same time established a Canadian precedent for using the Charter to defend actions of intervention against illegal fishing activities.”

        This is an absolute lie.

        Paul Watson was convicted under section 430(3) of the Canadian Criminal Code and sentenced to 2 years probation and 30 days in prison. The trial judge instructed the jury that the world charter for nature did not give Watson any authority for his actions. Watson also claimed colour of right (that he was mistaken in assuming that he had authority under the WCN but that he honestly believed at the time that he had such authority). The jury did not believe him and he was convicted. Watson lost both appeals.

        See
        http://www.canlii.org/en/nl/nlca/doc/1999/1999canlii13906/1999canlii13906.html
        http://www.canlii.org/en/nl/nlca/doc/1999/1999canlii18935/1999canlii18935.html

      • crumpets are yummy

        Actually, Paul Watson was aquitted of two charges.

        He was convicted only on the charge of mischief by the throwing of Butyric acid.

  • romika3

    I have a real issue with the methods employed by the SSCS and Paul Watson and their hidden agendas. The call themselves a conservation organization, yet they employ terror tactics to achieve their goals. SSCS states that their mandate to stop illegal poachers yet the SSCS spend years attacking the fisherperson of Eastern Canada who where participating in a legal and managed seal harvest. Watson is on the record as stating that he seeks issues that have the greatest media and money making potential (interview with Barbara Frum CBC) and that distorting data and to lie in the media is acceptable (Watson’s book, Earthrace). He is now in the southern ocean attacking the Japanese Whales, yet they have not begun to harvest.
    Another technique employed by the SSCS is to promote the demonizing of a culture and a people. Just look at some of the comments directed to the Japanese in the previous post. His pattern is predictable attack where it is safe (i.e. international waters), create an incident, flood the media with video and press releases, and then sit back an collect the money. Here are some questions. Most of the whales harvested by the Japanese are minke whales that have healthy sustainable populations yet he never mentions this in the media in fact when asked on Larry King about the populations of whales he was supposedly protecting he couldn’t answer the question! Why is the SSCS not in Iceland where endangered fins whales are harvested? The bottom line SSCS is about one personal glory, a TV show, and they have done little but cause whalers, sealers etc to dig their heals in. Nobody will to yield to an individual, organization, or organization that uses them, demonizes them or attacks them.

    • AnimuX

      Unfortunately, industry fronts and pro-whaling antagonists continue to attempt to publicly demonize Sea Shepherd and other conservation groups with exaggerations, distortions and lies.

      Romika3 is an admitted baby seal skull basher from Canada and has been the subject of protest which is why he so adamantly attacks Sea Shepherd.

      Sea Shepherd is a charity organization and has received high ratings from evaluators for spending such a large majority of its funds on operation costs as opposed to administrative costs like salaries.

      The health of any populations of whales hunted by Japan is disputed. Japan currently kills endangered Fin whales, endangered Sei whales, vulnerable Sperm whales, common Minke whales (many from the vulnerable J-stock), and Antarctic Minke whales. Japan also imports the meat of endangered Fin whales form Iceland. Also, the Antarctic Minke is classified as “data Deficient” by the international authority, the IUCN. This is due to conflicting data that, if correct, could indicate Antarctic Minkes could be endangered as well. However, if the data is incorrect then the Antarctic Minke would be called “Least Concern”. Regardless, Japan is killing Antarctic Minkes in an internationally established whale sanctuary in defiance of multiple IWC resolutions calling on Japan to stop.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Maybe if the whales were dressed as little girls the Japanese wouldn’t kill them…

      • romika3

        “The health of any populations of whales hunted by Japan is disputed. Japan currently kills endangered Fin whales, endangered Sei whales, vulnerable Sperm whales, common Minke whales (many from the vulnerable J-stock), and Antarctic Minke whales.” perhaps you might let the viewing public know the numbers or do you know them at all!!!!

        “Japan also imports the meat of endangered Fin whales form Iceland.” what does this have to do with the issue???

        “Also, the Antarctic Minke is classified as “data Deficient” by the international authority, the IUCN. This is due to conflicting data that, if correct, could indicate Antarctic Minkes could be endangered as well.” then if this is a problem why doesn’t SSCS us its funds and vessals to collect the necessary data to fill in this blanks? This a what a conservation organization does!!!!

        Bottom line, the SSCS is there to make a TV show….

      • crumpets are yummy

        So are the whalers.

      • romika3

        I find it quite interesting that nobody seems to beable to provide answers to any questions that are posted!!!

  • romika3

    My last post before I begin my New Year’s day celebrations. A friend has pointed out to me that in the above photo SSSC’s new sea monster boat is running interference with an iceberg not a Japanese whaling boat. But then, Watson and the SSCS will do what ever they can to distort the truth, “doctor” the data, and pull the wool over the public’s eyes.

    • Imforthewhales

      Romika3, it seems like you are doing your best to play with the facts and distort the truth.

      The above photo of Gojira is one taken by SSCS and was taken a week or so ago after they first arrived in Antarctica.

      The Japanese fleet had not been sighted at that stage…they were simply looking for the whaling ships and sniffing the air for the stink of whaler.

      The reason the iceberg is in the picture…and i speak to you as a photographer… is because 1) it tells us where they are , ie somewhere cold that has floating icebergs…and b) the white background of the iceberg highlights the ship itself which would otherwise be blending in with the dark background of the ocean. The green gojira on the bow really stands out don’t you think?

      For more current piks ( and some super shots of the other SSCS ships) please visit the ICR website. They have an active photographer on board ( who should have taken a better camera with higher resolution & some better lenses btw…)

      ( who should have bought a better camera btw…seems a shame that they only took took down a 5 megapixel camera when there are such good opportunities to get some stunning piks of the SSCS ships against a backdrop of icebergs and cloudy Antarctic skies)

      • romika3

        ” you are doing your best to play with the facts and distort the truth.” this is what Paul Watson and the SSCS do best. He states this in his book Earthforce which is available to purchase on their web site.

        “The reason the iceberg is in the picture…and i speak to you as a photographer… is because 1) it tells us where they are , ie somewhere cold that has floating icebergs…and b) the white background of the iceberg highlights the ship itself which would otherwise be blending in with the dark background of the ocean. The green gojira on the bow really stands out don’t you think?” and this statment is the biggest load of whale crap that I have seen deposited on this site yet.

      • crumpets are yummy

        I think its obvious that you nothing about photography Romika.

    • MN Hope

      It took a friend for you to notice that Gojira is in front of an ice berg? Wow romika, just wow.

      • romika3

        He pointed out to me that Waston, in his usually manner, was again attempting to tell a big white lie (pardon the pun) to the donating public, that the iceberg was a whaling ship.

      • crumpets are yummy

        OK Romika3…you posted recently that you were confused about the questions on this site.

        Well, here is a question for you, lets see what you do with it.

        Show us here Paul Watson pointed to an iceberg and said it was a whaling ship.

        PS have you been drinking heavily over new year or something?

      • MN Hope

        This isn’t Sea Shepherd’s website! It is Ecorazzi.com. If Michael wants to put the picture there, he can, Paul has no say on it. In fact, the exact words below the picture on the press release are:

        ‘Gojira in front of an iceberg’

        Where did Paul say that the iceberg was a whaling ship romika?

      • romika3

        So here is the question, where is Watson’s picture of the Whaling ship??? Why did he send a picture of an iceberg. Are those video clips on the ICR page from this year or last. Maybe ICR are now playing games. Who knows.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Romika he didnt send a picture of an iceberg…the picture is a file photo

      • MN Hope

        That picture is just that, a picture. It means nothing. It’s just a picture of Gojira that Michael d’Estries decided to put up as the picture for this particular article. If you would actually check Sea Shepherd’s website, you would see that their press release has a picture of one of the harpoon boats as the article picture.

  • romika3

    Just received an e-mail from my contact in SSCS. Watson HAS NOT found the Japanese whaling fleet and their inflatable boat HAS NOT attacked by water cannon. The purpose of this early press release is to kick off the fabricating media releases to coincide with beginning on the first day of the New Year.

    • Hufingraz

      So why has the ICR posted videos, photos & a press release, saying that Sea Shepherd attacked them?

      • romika3

        There is nothing on their web site.

      • crumpets are yummy

        You either need a new computer Romika3, a better internet connection or a new set of glasses.

      • MN Hope
    • Michael Raymer

      I’m too busy LMAO at this assertion that romika the spymaster has a contact in SSCS. I’m sure this “contact” is the Michelle Rodriguez finger-puppet romika drew on his hand ala South Park. And his New Year’s day celebrations involve spending quality time with “her”.

      Hey, can you smuggle some microfilm out for us there, spymaster? Ooooh, I know! Have your contact steal some vegan recipes, write them in code on a tiny piece of rice paper, put the paper in an even tinier metal capsule, fit a still tinier pyrotechnic charge inside the capsule in case it should fall into the wrong hands, and have it surgically implanted in your “contact” (you can’t see it but I’m doing the two fingers thing as I say “contact”), and have your “contact” (two fingers thing) smuggle it through customs and report immediately to S.H.I.E.L.D. Headquarters. We’re also going to need a stool sample from Peter Hammerstedt, an inventory of all spiral notebooks on board and secretly-taken photographs of the crews sock drawers. Have your “contact” get on this immediately.

      • Imforthewhales

        Bit of an EPIC FAIL there Romiika3…

        Better to stay quiet and to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove yourself one.

      • romika3

        Michael Raymer:So are you try to tell me that Michelle Rodriguez is leaking information about the SSCS and that you write spy adventure comic books?

    • MN Hope

      I’m impressed with how out of touch you are with your employing body. The ICRs own website has video, photos, and a press release. Now, how can Sea Shepherd not be on the fleets tail when both parties have evidence to prove otherwise?

      • romika3

        The only video I see is that of the SSCS attacking a fishing boat. Can this be the first steps to creating a media incident? What gives this organization the right to attack a vessel that isn’t even harvesting? How do they know that this boat is intending to harvest whales. You see folks, this is a big problem with this organization.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Are you saying, romika3, that the Japanese could be wasting Japanese taxpayers money on a pleasure cruise to Antarctica?

        Despite the wastefulness and proven corruption of the Japanese whalers in general, i find this hard to believe.

        You are quite the clown today aren’t you!

      • MN Hope

        Than you are seeing different video than the rest of us. What the world sees is Sea Shepherd taking actions against a WHALING vessel in the SO. The whaler ship is there with the specific intent to hunt the whales, as said before the fleet left Japan, and the fact that it is a whaling ship. They are getting to the fleet before any whale is killed so they can save as many whales as possible and bankrupt the whaling fleet, the real reason they are down there.

      • romika3

        I get the impression that they are down there to make a TV series as it was a big money maker for them last year and that the majority of the crew are actors. They have to get an incident going to create a little action for the camera. What a pathetic pusedo-conservation organization.

      • MN Hope

        Of course you get that impression! Your impression comes from your paycheck. And TV show or not, Sea Shepherd saves whales, as even the whalers have admitted to.

        Prove to me that most of the crew are actors.

        Sea Shepherd isn’t fake if they actually do what a conservation organization does, which they do. Thus, they are Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.

        Well, regardless of any of it, they still successfully save the whales, and when you get down to the basics, that’s all that matters.

      • romika3

        “Prove to me that most of the crew are actors.” apparently Waston spend much of his off season time in LA recruiting actors including Michlle R.

        “Sea Shepherd isn’t fake if they actually do what a conservation organization does, which they do. Thus, they are Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.” Sorry but Sea Shepherd is not a conservation organization. They are an eco-terrorist organization that used terror and terror tactics to acheive their goals (see Whale Wars, SSCS web page, Youtube),they select issues based on the money making and media potential and they lie and distort data (see Earthforce by Paul Watson available from the SSCS online store)

      • AnimuX

        Unfortunately, pro-whaling antagonists and industry fronts spend a great deal of time demonizing Sea Shepherd and other environmental organizations with exaggerations, distortions and outright lies.

        In 30 years of intervention, Sea Shepherd has never killed anyone, beaten anyone up or taken anyone hostage (and never threatened to either).

        Yet those who represent and defend such heinous industries as commercial whaling continue to compare activists to real terrorists responsible for murdering thousands of innocent people.

        Sea Shepherd shoots cameras, not machineguns. They throw stink bombs, not grenades. Throwing stink bombs at a boat is NOT terrorism.

        Also, the organization has gone out to sea to intervene against all sorts of industries and poachers from illegal long liners, to shark finners, to IUU blue fin tuna fishing, whalers, sealers and more. Sea Shepherd has even helped the law enforcement entities responsible for protecting Cocos and the Galapagos from exploitation.

        Watson has consistently gone out to sea with little money and no publicity (which is why many people have never heard of Sea Shepherd’s many campaigns) and with loads of donations and television crews. The organization is highly rated as a charity for putting most of its funds into operational costs and little by comparison to administrative costs like salaries. Watson and Sea Shepherd are not in it for the money.

      • MN Hope

        Oh please, celebrities just want to get on the ‘hot topic’ for a while, and then jump off as their popularity rises.

        Which of Sea Shepherd’s ‘Crazy 88′ this year are actors? I want names. Michelle Rodriguez got on per her own accord. And if Paul is only in LA to recruit actors to Sea Shepherd, than he must be pretty bad at it, because I haven’t seen many celebrities all jump in at once. He has gone looking for benefactors though. Gojira is on a bank loan, and they need to pay her off ASAP. That is why Paul needed donations. Lots of money flowing on? I think not. The updates to the Steve and Bob took up most of their budget, so they can’t totally afford Gojira.

        Terror and terror tactics. Well, the so called ‘terror’ tactics used are against a much bigger, much more terrifying machine. They have to get a point across, and hanging banners, ala Greenpeace, doesn’t work, so they step it up. Unfortunately pro-whalers seem to think even the slightest hint of scaring someone is terrorist-ic. Paul calls them tactics of intimidation. Of course, this can be taken a different way…

        “We want them to be afraid. They are feeling the kind of fear they inflict upon the creatures they took.” -Paul Watson

        I guess only the victims of the whalers can feel proper terror. But fear is good. It keeps you alert and on your toes. And if it works, it’ll continue to be used.
        Sea Shepherd saves the whales. That is what matters. That is why they have my support.

    • romika3

      I am correct, SSCS was not attacked, they attacked the whaling boat. Media reports state the SSCS was attacked.

      • MN Hope

        So you admit you lied about your ‘contact’ and Sea Shepherd not finding the fleet.

      • crumpets are yummy

        romika3 must have been reading earth force.

  • romika3

    I have a real issue with the methods employed by the SSCS and Paul Watson and their hidden agendas. The call themselves a conservation organization, yet they employ terror tactics to achieve their goals. SSCS states that their mandate to stop illegal poachers yet the SSCS spend years attacking the fisherperson of Eastern Canada who where participating in a legal and managed seal harvest. Watson is on the record as stating that he seeks issues that have the greatest media and money making potential (interview with Barbara Frum CBC) and that distorting data and to lie in the media is acceptable (Watson’s book, Earthrace). He is now in the southern ocean attacking the Japanese Whales, yet they have not begun to harvest.

    • crumpets are yummy

      What hidden agendas?

  • crumpets are yummy

    I have a real issue with the methods employed by the SSCS and Paul Watson

    bad luck…the reason you don’t like them is because they are effective methods which deliver results.

    and their hidden agendas.

    what hidden agendas???

    The call themselves a conservation organization,

    because that is what they are

    yet they employ terror tactics to achieve their goals.

    let me know when SSCS fly a plane into a building…until then, epic fail.

    SSCS states that their mandate to stop illegal poachers

    yep, whale poachers, poachers of fish and other animals such as sharks…and poachers who attempt to smuggle wildlife out of places such as the Galapagos…and purchase and train dogs to sniff out illegal poachers of wildlife…

    yet the SSCS spend years attacking the fisherperson of Eastern Canada

    You mean the sealers of Eastern Canada, right? The same ones who attacked Paul Watson in his hotel room? The same ones who chase down activists with hackapiks? Same fisherpersons?

    who where participating in a legal and managed seal harvest.

    You mean where they bash baby seals and skin them alive? For fur and flipper pie? Is that the same one?

    Watson is on the record as stating that he seeks issues that have the greatest media and money making potential (interview with Barbara Frum CBC)

    Is that the one where he was talking about Greenpeace?

    and that distorting data and to lie in the media is acceptable (Watson’s book, Earthrace).

    The Japanese whalers seem to agree! They must have read the book.

    He is now in the southern ocean attacking the Japanese Whales, yet they have not begun to harvest.

    You mean whalers? Who have not begun to brutally kill and torture whales? How is he attacking them?

    so Paul Watson has met the whalers early, …what is wrong with that?

    Good work I say.

    PS whales are not fish and the term “harvest” is a sneaky little term which implies that seals & whales have more more feelings than a sheaf of wheat.

    • romika3

      Crumpits are gummy, Sorry to tell you but what I have posted is true and it looks like you are having difficulty disproving it.

  • crumpets are yummy

    An interesting report from the bob Barker.

    Andrea Gordon

    Ship Manager, Bob Barker

    We confiscated illegal Patagonian toothfish fishing gear onboard the Bob Barker last week. We had to pull in two kilometers of line just to reach the gillnet! As the net came over the Bob Barker’s bow, I reached over to pull off any of the animals that may have survived the long journey to the surface. First, there was a tiny starfish. As I held it in my hand, I sensed its little feelers move and I knew it was still alive. I gently returned it into the ocean. Next, I carefully untangled a larger object from the net. It was a piece of rock from the seafloor far below but on top of the rather ordinary palm-size rock, was a breathtaking scene like an underwater bonsai garden. There were miniature pink coral trees, delicate white ferns, a tiny sea urchin no bigger than my fingernail nestled between the coral, and a smooth, dime-size pink starfish positioned just on top of the rock. I didn’t have much time to dwell on these magnificent deep-sea treasures as we had a long night ahead of us to finish confiscating the illegal fishing gear.

    What was most alarming was not that there was just illegal fishing in the Southern Ocean’s waters, but that there was any fishing happening at all. There are so few fish left in the oceans in general, it is absurd that the (illegal) industrial fishing fleets have to come all the way to the bottom of the planet to steal the last ones, destroying the deep sea habitat in the process. Precisely why we have traveled here to protect the last of the great whales from a criminal whaling operation.

    The stakes in our battle to save the oceans don’t get any higher than this season. The stakes are life versus death, existence versus extinction. I joined to Sea Shepherd to save wildlife and the oceans and this is exactly what we are doing.

    • romika3

      Trying to change the topic is a known propaganda tec. This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

      • crumpets are yummy

        You would know all about that romika$$$..but what has that got to do with the subject at hand?

  • romika3

    “Prove to me that most of the crew are actors.” As those of you who reside in LA well know when the camera rolls everybody becomes an actor. Paul Watson is an eco-terrorists trying to act like a conservationist and a deckhand acting as a captain and when he has an admiral’s costume on he tries to act has an admiral. Last year he was acting like Clint Eastwood who was acting like he was shot in the chest but survived because he had a piece of plate steel hung around his neck with a shoe lace from a rubber boot. In 2010 there was video posted on YouTube showing SSCS crew acting like they couldn’t see a Japanese Whaling boat, but in the background were a Japanese whaling boat.

    Many of the crew are acting out their fantasies of being an eco-kung fu warrior by wearing head scarves and bandanas. Others are acting like vegetarians but grab a burger like Watson does when he is in port. The majority act like they know what they are doing but, as pointed out in many post across the internet, they act like bad actors trying to act like real conservationist and Texans trying to sail a boat across the prairie.
    The worst actors are the supporters who spend their money on SSCS tee shirts and then go to cocktail parties on Friday afternoon and act like they are saving the world. The bottom line Paul Watson might have been a real conservationist when he avoided stepping on his first ant back in his youth in Eastern Canada, but now he is an eco-terrorist who is trying to become a bad actor.

    • Michael Raymer

      And strangely, nothing that you say has changed the fact that SSCS has grown by orders of magnitude in a very short time. Nothing has stopped them from doing exactly what they are doing right now. Nothing is coming up in the foreseeable future that is going to stop them from interfering with whaling activities in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary. And as you keep pointing out, the money continues to roll in.

      That light at the end of the tunnel keeps getting bigger and bigger, doesn’t it.

      • crumpets are yummy

        I think its important to note that we are really only dealing with cash for commenting trolls…some in New Zealand, some In Japan, and with the exception of Ednakookoo who appears to have taken leave ( or lost his english translation program…or, got the sack) are just your average G* I * Joe…

        The other mob on here are just your average common Canadian sealer with an ax to grind and who can be found al over the internet spreading lies and untruths about Sea Shepherd. They are especially venomous in their attacks because of the loss to their seal skinning industry when the EU banned seal products…this ban cost the baby seal bashers money, and money can be a great motivator for some people.

        So on one hand you have one group motivated by money and another group motivated by revenge.

        Beyond those boundaries, there is no support at all for the pro whaling tribes.

        Nobody is donating to them, they have no public support, they are not actually doing anything to support their arguments…they are certainly not in the Southern Ocean attempting to stop Paul Watson and SSCS…by all accounts they are far removed from whaling itself…so are next to useless.

        As far s the whalers themselves go, they are being condemned across the world for their illegal activities. Australia’s own PM Julia Gillard condemned Japan’s whaling industry , reiterating that her government remained “completely opposed to whaling” and was taking “appropriate action through the international court system”

        “We view whaling as absolutely unacceptable. So I’m opposed to it in every circumstance,” the Prime Minister said.

        Greens senator Rachel Siewert demanded a formal pardon be granted to two Greenpeace activists, Toru Suzuki and Junichi Sato, who were arrested for stealing whale meat in 2008 in an attempt to uncover embezzlement.

        “The whole world knows that the so-called scientific whaling program is a fraud and the enormous lengths the Japanese government take to cover it up . . . are further exposed,” she said

        Although Japan tries to justify their whaling under the IWC scientific research exception, this exception is merely a technical anomaly that the IWC could soon revoke.From a public policy
        standpoint, most people would not want to see endangered animals killed under the guise of “scientific research” on mortality rates,
        only to see those same endangered animals end up on a dinner plate in Japan.

        The more negative attention Japanese whaling receives, the more public support Sea Shepherd and other related groups acquire.

        Meanwhile the good ships of SSCS rock on, with three outstanding ships crewed by three outstanding crews and huge public and political support, an animal planet “whale wars” show to highlight their mission and the plight of the whales and a movie in the wings which can only fuel the fires of change and bring about even more recognition of the good wok that SSCS is doing in defending our oceans, our wildlife and ultimately us.

        We humans depend upon a healthy, balanced natural world for our own health and well being, indeed, for our very existence. In short, without Nature we humans do not exist. We humans are part of, a thread of, the greater web of life, not separate from it. This understanding is paramount if we are to restore respect and dignity to both the human species and our partner species within the Natural world. All species are equal in their own right. It is only by putting aside our old, worn-out petty differences and false sense of separation that we can work together for a planetary renewal and reunion for all life. Nature is the unifying factor for all of life.

        In just over 250 years we have consumed or destroyed what took millions and millions of years to evolve…

        Without Nature We Do Not Exist. Period

      • romika3

        Crumps: Nice thesis however you perhaps have over looked on point, that it is Watson’s METHODS that are questioned here and always have been. An eco-terrorist organization under the guise of a conservation organization that will select an issue based on its media and money making potential and the organizations intentions to attack the frontline worker as opposed to dealing with the issue from the scientific and legislative perspective. This approach has done more damage to cause than good. In fact there are a number of papers that support this and I will dig those up.

        I pointed out previously that Watson says one thing and then does another. Claims to this and then claims to be that. Again, an example of this his statement that he attacks only poachers and illegal fishermen, but in fact he spent years attacking sealers who were participating in a legal and managed hunt. He said it in his own words, “There is more money in seals than in dolphins”.

        Now he changes hats again targeting the Japanese mainly because they carry out their whale harvest in international waters. A safe and secure location for SSCS cowards to attack, stage events, and brew up lies. And finally as pointed out by me and many others and supported by Watson’s thoughts in “Earthforce” his organization and members are a pack of liars and this is under his own direction. They are taking their funders for a ride, giving conservation a bad name in particular for the youth who relish in watching Whale Wars because of it violence and the promotion violence has tool to bring about change. Sorry Crumps, when it comes down to the fine line you will find that those who support Watson are in the minority and are only those who dream of becoming a pseudo-pirate in the make believe world of Paul Watson.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Romika3…Paul Watsons “methods” have been proven to be effective. The whalers are in debt, the whalers have not killed a single whale this year, ( they got less than half their quota last year)…hopefully it will stay that way and they are seen as the pariahs of the world…and are now the best example of poor public relations. The whalers have been front page in the media world wide…their own methods such as vote buying have been commented on and scrutinized publicly…and their lies in regards to whaling and tuna fishing & general rape of the oceans exposed.
        Sea Shepherd have more support then ever before, this year they have a new ship and a new helicopter…they go from strength to strength while the whaling industry’s woes continue.

      • romika3

        Crumps, have a good look at the profile of Waston’s support base. Infact ask SSCS for that information. Watson and SSCS is more interested in the money and the fame.

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    • Michael Raymer

      Bwahahaha…great clip crumpets. Keep ‘em coming.

  • romika3

    Nice thesis Crumps however you perhaps have over looked on point, that it is Watson’s METHODS that are questioned here and always have been. An eco-terrorist organization under the guise of a conservation organization that will select an issue based on its media and money making potential and the organizations intentions to attack the frontline worker as opposed to dealing with the issue from the scientific and legislative perspective. This approach has done more damage to cause than good. In fact there are a number of papers that support this and I will dig those up.

    I pointed out previously that Watson says one thing and then does another. Claims to this and then claims to be that. Again, an example of this his statement that he attacks only poachers and illegal fishermen, but in fact he spent years attacking sealers who were participating in a legal and managed hunt. He said it in his own words, “There is more money in seals than in dolphins”.

    Now he changes hats again targeting the Japanese mainly because they carry out their whale harvest in international waters. A safe and secure location for SSCS cowards to attack, stage events, and brew up lies. And finally as pointed out by me and many others and supported by Watson’s thoughts in “Earthforce” his organization and members are a pack of liars and this is under his own direction. They are taking their funders for a ride, giving conservation a bad name in particular for the youth who relish in watching Whale Wars because of it violence and the promotion violence has tool to bring about change. Sorry Crumps, when it comes down to the fine line you will find that those who support Watson are in the minority and are only those who dream of becoming a pseudo-pirate in the make believe world of Paul Watson.

  • romika3

    Crummy “We humans are part of, a thread of, the greater web of life, not separate from it. This understanding is paramount if we are to restore respect and dignity to both the human species and our partner species within the Natural world.” thus the need for humans to play an active management role. In other words if the estimated seal biomass is projected to be 9.5 million animals in 2011 and their major predators have yet to reach numbers where they can balance a population then the removal of 250,000 individuals is acceptable. This would also apply to managed harvest of mink whales. Watson, however, whats to set the clock back to when humans did not walk on this earth. His thinking flawed.

    • crumpets are yummy

      Not quite romika$$$

      People have seen the mistakes of the past of exploitation…we are currently going through the 6th extinction with plant and animal species being lost every day …

      Whales are one species that has paid the price…they should not be lining up for another go..big corporations should not be left to their own devices destroying the world for their profits (see BP etc as an axample of this)

      • romika3

        From a biological perspective extinction is a natural part of the evolutional continuum. Most people do not realize that the biodiversity on this planet today (number of species) is greater than is has ever been in the past. This however does not give license to utilize a resource to the point of extinction. You folks will now jump on me like a pack of rats as you might think what I have said is a paradox. However, at no point in my hundreds of posts over the last three years have I stated that I supported the whale harvest.

        Our issue is with Watson’s and other organizations methods. Basically the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is NOT a conservation organization. They have no programs, they lie and distort data, the use terror and terrorist tactics to achieve their goals, they promote terror has a tool for change, they claim to deal with poachers yet they attack legal fisheries, on day Watson is one thing the next day he is another, Watson and the SSCS are not supported by the UN, they have NOT been given a mandate by anybody, any government or any NGO to do what they do, they are selective in what they target basing the decision on the money making and media potential, they are linked with and support organizations that promote cultural hate. Worst of all Watson is a bad actor dressing up in a Captain Kangaroo suit running around pretending to be Clint Eastwood being shot and saved by a piece of plate steel hung around his next with a shoelace, acting like he is a vegetarian yet consuming a herd of cattle annually, dancing with the stars to prey on their need to have their ego stroked and at the same time running off with bags of their money. SSCS is an embarrassment to conservation and the conservation movement plain and simple and nothing will change that.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Even if what you say is true Romika, Paul Watson and SSCS are down there right now saving whales. They are the only ones down in the Southern Ocean prepared to take on the Japanese whalers and make sure that whales are saved.

        They are, in short the best in the business.

        Which is why, when it all comes down to it, they will be the ones remembered in a hundred years and which is why they will continue to go from strength to strength.

      • romik3

        “They are, in short the best in the business” Nice to know that some of you folks are coming around. Yes, SSCS is a business, a life style for Watson. The selection of issues that generate the most funds and media presence are those he selects.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Yes, seal bashing is a business, a life style for the sealers. The selection of seals that generate the most funds are those he selects.

  • crumpets are yummy

    HE Australian Greens have flagged legislation that aims to prohibit whaling in Australia’s Antarctic waters.

    The minor party also wants the government to seek an injunction in the International Court of Justice against this year’s whaling hunt.

    The move came after two Sea Shepherd vessels were involved in a confrontation with the Japanese whaling fleet at the weekend, with protesters being hosed with high-pressure water cannon as they harassed the whalers.

    Greens leader Bob Brown reiterated his party’s call for naval or aerial surveillance of the whaling slaughter, with filmed evidence released to the world’s media to shame the Japanese fleet.

    “Surveillance by Australia could also prevent human lives being lost during the whale-killing season,” he said.

    The opposition is adopting a similar line, urging the government to adopt an independent monitoring role of the annual whale hunt in the Southern Ocean.

    Opposition environment spokesman Greg Hunt says the risk of tragedy has been “foreseen and forewarned”.

    “It is incumbent upon the government to take practical steps to ensure that there is an independent monitoring and an independent search-and-rescue capability,” he told ABC Radio today.

    Mr Hunt said he had written to Environment Minister Tony Burke urging the government to take on a watchdog role.

    The Greens want the coalition and independents to support legislation that would make Japanese whaling more difficult.

    “We will look at legal options for other legislation, such as prohibiting whaling in Australian Antarctic waters altogether,” Senator Brown said.

    • Michael Raymer

      Do us a favor crumpets. Put the link of the article above or below the text. That just saves time when the whiner-boyz show up with their vitriol.

  • crumpets are yummy
    • Michael Raymer

      Thanx muchly. While there I saw this article:

      http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/us-japan-discussed-anti-whalers/story-e6frf7jx-1225981245848

      “JAPANESE and US officials discussed taking action against a prominent anti-whaling group, with Tokyo insisting that Sea Shepherd’s confrontations on the high seas actually hurt efforts to reduce whaling, US diplomatic cables show.”

      “Action against the anti-whaling Sea Shepherd Conservation Society would be a “major element” in achieving success at international negotiations on the number of whales killed each year, the cables cite the director general of Japan’s fisheries agency, Katsuhiro Machida, as saying.”

      “The diplomatic cables, posted on WikiLeaks’ secret-sharing website on Monday but dated January 1, show Japanese officials repeatedly told US counterparts the group’s actions were making whaling a political issue and hurting any chance of a compromise on the numbers of whales killed each year.”

      “An International Whaling Commission meeting last year – that ended without agreement – was seen as a major chance to end a decades long stalemate. The US approached Japan in late 2009 to reach a deal on the issue, calling it an “irritant” in international relations.

      “Action on the SSCS (Sea Shepherd Conservation Society) would be a major element for Japan in the success of the overall negotiations,” a Japanese official said, according to one cable.”

      What a load of shit. “Shut down SSCS and we’ll lower our quota.” As if! It’s amazing how the ICR tools can say this manure with a straight face.

      • romika3

        This supports what I have been saying all along. When you are dealing with an issue that has a deep cultural connection then the way to do it is through working with the people (education, etc) rather than against them. People do not want to be “made” or “forced”, through violence and attack, to change. They dig their heals in. Watson knows this and he takes advantage of this. The same applies to the Canadian seal hunt. Sorry folks we don’t want SSCS and the 17 other organizations who come in with a plane full of city slickers, spend on day shooting video and then post on the internet that they want to collect $100,000.00 (HSUS 2010), we don’t want an organiation like SSCS making money of the hunt, supporting individuals who, on a regular bases, randomly telephone and threaten fishermen and their familes who might clear $24,000.00 in a good year, ( includes income from a full fishing cycle) post hate pages, etc. etc. etc.

        The majority of the supporters of organizations like this, including SSCS, are individuals who have no understanding about ecosystems, sustainabiltiy, resource managment etc. In fact Pauls Wastons three laws of the ecosystem are incorrect. The prime interest of these supporters is playing the role of the cocktail hero, the tee shirt hero…..

      • crumpets are yummy

        The Japanese should be happy for SSCS to stay in the picture…as, according to the Japanese

        SSCS “actions were making whaling a political issue and hurting any chance of a compromise on the numbers of whales killed each year.”

        * With SSCS in the picture = no compromise, =higher quota, more whales killed

        * Without SSCS= lower quotas, less whales killed.

        The Japanese want to kill more whales, not less, therefore getting rid of SSCS by any means possible will hurt their “cause”.

  • crumpets are yummy

    ****poof,***** it is done

  • David

    US-Japan discussed ‘action’ against anti-whalers

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40885754

    “Japanese and American officials discussed taking action to weaken a prominent anti-whaling group, with Tokyo insisting that Sea Shepherd’s confrontations on the high seas actually hurt efforts to reduce whaling, U.S. diplomatic cables show.

    The U.S. representative to the International Whaling Commission, Monica Medina, discussed revoking the U.S.-based conservation group’s tax exempt status during a meeting with senior officials from the Fisheries Agency of Japan in November 2009, according to the documents released by WikiLeaks on Monday.”

    “Referring to Sea Shepherd, Medina said “she believes the USG (U.S. government) can demonstrate the group does not deserve tax exempt status based on their aggressive and harmful actions,” according the cables.”

    Monica Medina, Commerce Department principal deputy under secretary for oceans and atmosphere, has been appointed the U.S. commissioner for the International Whaling Commission by President Barack Obama.

    So President Obama’s chosen representative to the IWC seems to have an issue with the SSCS and their tactics.

    • josh lamb

      Actually no, the Japanese are using the old lines of “There dangerous tactics” and such. Throwing stink bombs, flour, and ramming a inch thick steel boat into a massive ice breaker are not dangerous. They(Japan) used the same tactics with the Dalai Lama, telling him that SSCS has injured some of the whalers, which is a blatent lie.

      • David

        Ice breaker?

        What the heck are you talking about?

        Did you go off your meds again?

      • crumpets are yummy

        you mean like your puppy killing mate?

    • Michael Raymer

      You left out the best quote:

      “Action on the SSCS (Sea Shepherd Conservation Society) would be a major element for Japan in the success of the overall negotiations,” a Japanese official said, according to one cable.”

      Gee, ya think?

      I’m glad this made it to MSNBC. SSCS supporters will be lining up to let President Obabma know what they think about this move and this will die a quick death. Most American anti-whalers are Democrats, and he can’t afford to piss people off with re-election coming up.

  • crumpets are yummy

    The Japanese government and the Institute for Cetacean Research (ICR) consistently refer to Sea Shepherd Conservation Society as “eco-terrorists” and “pirates.”

    However, Sea Shepherd has not been charged with any crime by any nation including Japan for interventions against Japanese whaling activities in the Southern Ocean. Sea Shepherd has not been reprimanded by the United States, Australia, New Zealand or the Netherlands.

    Paul watson has not been reprimanded as a citizen by the United States or Canada.

    SSCS have not committed any crime nor have they injured a single Japanese whaler.

    Sea Shepherd’s ships may utilize Australian and New Zealand ports for supplies and fuel.

    Japanese whalers are not permitted the use of Australian or New Zealand ports.

    The Australian Federal Court has found Japan to be in contempt of an Australian Federal Court ruling barring Japan from killing whales in the Australian Antarctic Territory.

    Japan’s accusation that Sea Shepherd’s are “pirates and eco-terrorists” are to be believed, then these questions must be asked: How is it that Sea Shepherd’s ships can use New Zealand and Australian ports but the Japanese whalers are banned from entry into Australian and New Zealand ports? How is it that none of the SSCS officers nor Paul Watson have been charged for intervention and interference with Japanese whaling? How is it that the Dutch government has not reprimanded the SSCS Dutch registered ships, and the Australian government has not reprimanded the SSCS Australian flagged ship? Why would Australia give the Gojira a flag if they considered us “pirates and eco-terrorists?”

    Sea Shepherd is defending a whale sanctuary whereas the whalers are slaughtering whales in a whale sanctuary.

    Sea Shepherd is taking every precaution to not injure any of the whalers yet the whalers are intent upon causing bodily harm to Sea Shepherd’s crewmembers.

    The position of Sea Shepherd is that Japanese whalers are targeting endangered humpback and fin whales and threatened Minke whales within the territory of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, and in violation of the global moratorium on commercial whaling worldwide.

    They are illegally refueling their ships below the 60th degree of latitude, and they are illegally discharging offal from the whales into the waters of the Antarctic Treaty Zone in violation of the Antarctic Treaty.

    The whalers are involved in bribery scandals, vote buying, and corruption.

    Sea Shepherd has not committed a crime. Sea Shepherd has not been charged with committing a crime and Sea Shepherd has no intention of committing a crime.

    The Japanese whaling industry is conducting criminal operations by targeting endangered and protected whales inside the boundaries of an established international whale sanctuary.

    They are also in violation of a global moratorium on commercial whaling by using subterfuge to claim their whaling is “scientific,” all while utilizing bribery to secure the necessary votes to support their bogus claims.

    • Michael Raymer

      I’m almost tempted to copy this post and then paste it as a stock reply, regardless of what the pro-whalers write. I mean, crumpets pretty much hit all the selling points. I would just ad a couple of paragraphs about the cruelty of whale slaughter and how the whalers are murderous freaks for targetting the babies first to exploit the protectiveness of the parents.

      • http://www.herwinsvegancafe.com herwin

        I agree with you that it would be nice if from now on instead of the same same long anti whaling replies, you just put a link to Crumpets’s reply. Or better, dont respond. The troll maggots just feed on any replies.

        oh, thats new to me that the whalers target the babies. Do you have a link of that ?
        Speaking of “murderous freaks”, you dont have to go to Japan for that, your local supermarket are full of the most hideous and cruel products, that seemed to be designed by sadist people. (glue traps for mice and rats is such an example)

        I cant notice that sometimes there is a slight overtone in the whole discussion, as if the worst animal abusers are only to be found in China and Japan.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Its a mish mash of stuff written by Paul Watson and perhaps others. But i think its a good summary and if you think its a good summation ( like I do) then go forth and use it~…good prose should never be wasted :)

      • Michael Raymer

        Et tu herwin? I don’t identify the perpetrators as Japanese, I identify them as whalers. Look back over my posting history and you’ll see that I don’t dwell on nationality.

        I may respond TO the trolls but, I don’t respond FOR the trolls. If you click on “Most Popular Posts of the Day”, you see many more people visit here than post comments. Some of these people may be undecided about the whaling/SSCS issue. I try to articulate the message from my perspective. Sure, I sometimes swing for the fence when I should be bunting, but hey, that’s me.

        “oh, thats new to me that the whalers target the babies. Do you have a link of that ?”

        The vids and the info are out there, but I didn’t save the links (it’s not something I personally want to look at). I’m a bit surprised that you were unaware of this. I thought this tactic was common knowledge.

        The worst animal abusers are found everywhere. Michael Vick is one example, the myriad forms of poachers in Africa are another. Right here, it’s the whales that are the topic. When Ecorazzi posts more stories about elephants, rhinos and Mountain Gorillas, I’ll have some choice comments about people who think hunting these species is a good idea. And show me a story about how Canadian logging is destroying the Great Bear Rainforest (the home of the only examples of Spirit Bear on the planet) and I’ll froth at the mouth and chew the carpet to your hearts content. But, in here for the moment, it’s about the whales. And the whales worst enemies are the Japanese, Icelanders and Norwegians. I didn’t make it that way. It just is.

      • crumpets are yummy

        Herwin, this is not the first time that you have come on here to tell people not to reply the trolls.

        Why don’t you worry about yourself and let others worry about the trolls, if they are not your thing.

        I think the discussion is very good here and whilst the trolls might feed off replies, i feed off the replies of trolls.

        No-one ever changed anything by being silent.

      • http://www.herwinsvegancafe.com herwin

        @ Michael Raymer

        “oh, thats new to me that the whalers target the babies. Do you have a link of that ?”

        Michael Raymers reply “The vids and the info are out there, but I didn’t save the links (it’s not something I personally want to look at). I’m a bit surprised that you were unaware of this. I thought this tactic was common knowledge.”

        actually, i am surprised, because i did think whales migrate to these icy cold antarctic seas for feeding but that they give birth in warmer waters and a diferent season. Baby whales couldnt survive in antarctic waters, at least thats what i thaught.

        The only pics that i know,and these are indeed famous (and very disturbingly sad) pics, are baby foetuses who are cut out of the whales body. (done by the japanese antarctic whalers.)

        For animal abuse Vick doesnt have to be mentioned, just any supermarket has an abundance of animal cruelty like meats, poison for unwanted rodents, etc.

        @ Crumpets.

        There is nothing wrong with suggesting people not to react too much to trolls.
        And its a bit funny that you accuse me of repeating something.
        And yes, as you say yourself, its very obvious that you, in turn, feed of the replies of the trolls, you wallow in it like a pig wallows in the mud.

      • Michael Raymer

        The birthing may occur somewhere else, but they are babies still when they are killed by the whalers (I said babies, not newborns). Again, this sets off the protective instinct in the parents and they loiter close by the calf. As a man with principles, this offends me.

        It’s not my place to stand between you and crumpets. If you two have something going on, it’s not my business. I would just gently ask, how many whales are you two going to save by getting into a pissing contest with each other? Both of you are needed, as well as all us others. Both your perspectives and your way of voicing them are necessary. As I have said in various posts, in various ways, let’s keep our eye on the ball.

      • crumpets are yummy

        “There is nothing wrong with suggesting people not to react too much to trolls.

        Is there anything wrong with suggesting that people react more to the trolls?

        As to the rest of your insulting post……oink! You’re right! I love trolls, I feed off them, I eat um for breakfast.

        Now… back to my mud bath.

    • romika3

      Folks, all of this does not (right or wrong) give the SSCS or any other organization licence to utilize terror and terror tactics to achieve their goals (or what ever word you want to use to describe their methods). They attack ships and they do not have the authority to do so. Watson thinks he does is based on a few line items in a UN document but that his interpretation. The fact that he as not hurt or killed is not a valid argument (however if you look into his pass there is evidence that he may have)
      Now I know some of you hunt and so do I so lets suppose there is a group of individuals that feels that deer hunting is barbaric, despite the fact that it is a managed resource, participants have completed a gun safety course, have a licence etc. So what they do is target deer hunters during the hunting season. They follow the hunters to the farmers fields where they hunt, they egg their cars and trucks, telephone random hunters in the middle of the night and threaten to skin and mount their children, they slash their tires, etc etc. They can do this because they haven’t hurt anybody. Even a better example let this group target only deer poachers; their rational is that there are not enough wildlife officers to deal with all the poaching issues in the state so they are going to tackle the issue ourselves. What’s the difference?
      On the issue of “trolls”, perhaps you folks are the trolls and not us. It seems to me that most of you support the violence has a tool for bringing about change, wear blinders when it comes to looking at the big picture in terms of how the SSCS and similar organization operates. Or, as I pointed out perhaps it is you folks who are on the SSCS payroll. I am on no ones payroll. I have witnessed first hand, on the ground what SSCS and other similar organizations have done to “individuals”, frontline fisherpersons, how they distort and lie to achieve their goals, are selective, setup individuals up etc. Watson is for Watson and nobody else.

      • Michael Raymer

        I must say Romika, that was a cogent, accurately spelled and appropriately punctuated post. Well done.

        “licence to utilize terror and terror tactics”. Interpretation. Seriousy, as a debate tip, you guys throw “terror” and “terrorist” around too much for your own good. It’s costing you.

        “Watson thinks he does is based on a few line items in a UN document but that his interpretation.” And it’s mine too. And it’s a whole lot of other peoples. Those line items have provided SSCS with 3 ships where there was one and an exponential increase in donations.

        “The fact that he as not hurt or killed is not a valid argument” Yes it is.

        “Even a better example let this group target only deer poachers;” “What’s the difference?” In the example you give, there is a huge difference. You actually just made a 3-pointer into the wrong basket. I would fully support any ad hoc anti-poaching effort.

        “telephone random hunters in the middle of the night and threaten to skin and mount their children, they slash their tires, etc etc.” You have repeatedly made these accusations without offering one shred of proof. Sorry for the random whackjob that has made these late night calls, but until you show proof that SSCS or any mainstream conservation organization (not PETA!) has been behind this harrassment, you’re spinning your wheels.

        ” It seems to me that most of you support the violence has a tool for bringing about change, wear blinders when it comes to looking at the big picture in terms of how the SSCS and similar organization operates.” I don’t agree. I think we are seeing very objectively when it comes to the big picture. And I think that big picture is portrayed accurately.

        “Or, as I pointed out perhaps it is you folks who are on the SSCS payroll.” Nope, not me. I just care about whales.

        “frontline fisherpersons” Lumping whalers and seal-clubbers in with actual fishermen doesn’t work. I will keep having this out with you for as long as you want to keep bringing it up. Sitting on a horse doesn’t make you a cowboy and going out on a boat doesn’t make you a fisherman.

        “how they distort and lie to achieve their goals, are selective, setup individuals up etc.” Again, you are not doing a very good job proving any of this. On the other hand, it has been forever since I’ve seen anyone post about “Research Whaling”. This what the ICR uses as its legal stance to conduct whaling in the first place. But you guys never mention it. You are always defending commercial whaling as opposed to “Research”. So, where is the lying an distorting coming from?

        “Watson is for Watson and nobody else.” The Antarctic is a pretty long way to go to be self-serving. Again, as a debate point, this one ran out of steam a long time ago.

  • Napercussion

    I have written to President Obama and the Japanese in protest to the illegal Japanese whaling. I heard that US may remove Sea Sheppard’s tax exempt status. I have proposed that if the US does not want the Sea Sheppard to engage in these potentially dangerous tactics then all the nations that have signed onto the anti whaling prohibition should pool their resources and send down a legal and sanctioned patrol contingency. Without the Sea Sheppard we would have lost 500 whales last season. If everybody is just going to talk about it and not do anything then organizations like Sea Sheppard have no choice. I’m sure they would be perfectly happy if they did not have to put themselves in harm’s way, but SOMBODY has to do something! I encourage others to support the Sea Sheppard’s mission by voicing their opinions to the White House. It might not have an effect, but conversely the absence of protest certainly might have an unwanted effect. All those who leave comments here should spend a few minutes to send them directly to someone who has some influence in the matter.

    • romike3

      Sorry buster, but Ombama will not support terrorism or a eco-terrorist organization. SSCS should lose it status as a chariable organiztion. It is not a conservation organization, it selects issues based on media and fundraising potential, it lies and distorts data, including the number of whales it saved and as pointed out in a interview with Larry King Wastson has now idea of the population of the existing whale populations in the southern ocean that he intends to save. This alone is a RED FLAG to anybody who considers donating this organization. An finially it has been pointed out a number of times that Watson has a personal hatred for fisherpersons and will attack fishermen who participate in legal and managed fisheries or harvests if there is the potential of fame and funds.

      • AnimuX

        *yawn*

  • Michael Raymer

    http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-110105-1.html

    “The Sea Shepherd ships have been pursuing the Japanese factory ship the Nisshin Maru for the past six days ever since finding the Japanese whaling fleet on December 31st, 2010. Since then, the two fleets have covered over a thousand miles as the whalers attempt to shake off the pursuing Sea Shepherd ships.”

    ” Every day they don’t kill whales is a victory. We can sustain this running confrontation until the end of March, and the end of the whaling season if need be.”

    Let us hope so. Hopefully Admiral Watson has it planned out to stagger refueling and provisioning. I don’t want these whaling punks to so much as get a day off.

    • crumpets are yummy

      Great work SSCS and Admiral Watson…go home whaling scum-buckets…go home and stay home…for good.

    • romika3

      What’s the carbon foot print of Watson’s foolishness?

      • AnimuX

        Irrelevant.

  • Michael Raymer

    http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-110105-3.html

    “Sea Shepherd Repels Assaults from the Yushin Maru No. 2 and the Yushin Maru No. 3″

    “It has been one week since the whaling fleet was discovered. Two of the harpoon vessels have been under constant observation and have not killed any whales. The Nisshin Maru and one other harpoon vessel the Yushin Maru No. 1 have fled for over 1,200 miles since the discovery of the fleet on December 31st. It is doubtful they have had time to slow down to catch any whales.”

    It’s reports like this that put all the trolling and propaganda in perspective.

    • David

      “Two of the harpoon vessels have been under constant observation…”

      Yes as they follow the Steve Irwin and Bob Barker.

      “…have had time to slow down to catch any whales.”

      Where does this ‘slow down to catch whales’ come from? When they showed a whale being caught on Whale Wars the harpoon ship was doing a good 15+ knots. And the transfer of whales they have shown seemed to be at 10 or 12 knots, so maybe 5 or 6 knots of slowing for 5 minutes to do the transfer which is actually less time then Paul reports the Steve Irwin and Gojira came to a complete stop to transfer supplies.

      If there are whales around they could easily by catching 5 or 10 a day with only an average 1 or 2 knot speed drop. Since the Nisshin Maru was reported to be 100 NM away a 2 knot drop in average speed doesn’t mean much.

      • Michael Raymer

        Unfortunately, you may be right. I also noticed that point myself, although I believe they have to slow down quite a bit to actually load the whale(s). Hopefully SSCS can catch up to the Nisshin Maru. That will be the only way to guarantee that no whales are being killed.

  • crumpets are yummy

    Yes of course it does.

    I think people forget that we are not really talking to the trolls but to a wider audience. At the end of the day it matters not weather the trolls agree with us or not, what matters is that we are on the right side of the argument, can make some points and have the wider audience agree with us.

    If we cannot win the whaling war on a site such as this then we can hardly be expected to be winning the war out in the “real” world.

    I think that also it is good to discuss things on here so the positions are clear. I think the trolls do a very good job also…they are constantly looking of new angles to attack and it is up to us to deflect those attacks and research some answers. It keeps us all on the ball and up to date.

    Without the trolls then we would not have the in depth discussions that we do have,,,instead, we would all be just agreeing with each other…that can get very boring after a while. So trolls are definately needed to add some spice to the mix.

    In any case we gave the trolls plenty this thread and they seem to have gone to ground.

    I suspect Glenn Inwood has also been sacked.

    • Michael Raymer

      “In any case we gave the trolls plenty this thread and they seem to have gone to ground.”

      I have been noticing that meself. It’s amazing how the spectre of crushing, humiliating defeat makes some people quit the battlefield.

      Anyway, another two thumbs, way way up, for the above post. Do a Google search for many related topics and Ecorazzi is right up there. And plenty of people come and have a look every day. I don’t reply to a fool like romika (let alone ednakano) because I think I’m going to change their mind. But I’m not about to allow them the stage all by themselves. While I’ve made my share of posts that I’d like to take back (hey, I get pissed like everyone else), I reply for the sake of the disinterested viewer who is going to believe the last thing they read. Guess what? This happens on the internet. Like I said, I have no tolerance for these people who take some visceral dislike to Watson and then equate it to the whaling issue. And the best way to deal with them is on their own stomping grounds. That’s how I feel about it.

      • boo radley

        This has been great reading all the way through.

        Sorry to see Romika3 disappear so suddenly, I do hope he is OK. Of course I miss Ednako, don’t we all?

      • AnimuX

        Indeed.

    • romika3

      “we would not have the in depth discussions that we do have,,,instead, we would all be just agreeing with each other”

      Folks, I have yet to see any of you provide a rational for the methods employed by the SSCS organization. The depth of discussions do not go beyond the cutting and pasting of text from a UN document, links to snippets from SSCS video, and Watson’s ramblings from his commentary page. The more time I spend here the more I am coming to the conclusion that this is a group that is on SSCS payroll. Receiving free tee shirts, SSCS jewellery and posters and once and a while getting a free ticket to listen to Paul Watson tell the same story over and over about looking into the eye of and whale and participating in a Vulcan mind merge. The same thing happened when Watson looked into the eye of a harp seal and realized that he could make a fortune and become a super pusedo-eco-hero on the backs of Eastern Canadian fisherpersons who were participating in a legal and managed harvest from a population of animals who biomass is now approaching 9.5 million animals (projected for 2011). In simple terms the SSCS is an eco-terrorist organization …….. see my previous posts to fill in the rest.

      • AnimuX

        The rationale is simple. Sink the whaling fleet economically by getting in the way and forcing a reduced catch.

        Japan has historically violated international whaling regulations and resolutions. The violations include failing to abide by size limits, species protection, seasonal limits, sanctuary boundaries, all manner of quotas, and even facilitated pirate whaling. (that’s front companies with foreign labor illegally killing whales in secret and then smuggling the unreported meat to Japan – so much for tradition)

        National governments have failed to take steps to bring Japan into adherence with the decisions of the IWC despite repeated calls for Japan to stop killing whales.

        Sea Shepherd is simply interfering with Japan’s whaling operation using the only tools available.

        It’s pathetic that you can’t get it into your idiotic mind that millions of people all over the world oppose what Japan is doing and don’t need or receive a “paycheck” to speak out against whaling.

  • Imforthewhales

    There is some talk about this being Japans last whaling season in the Southern Ocean. The fleet has been reduced to four, they cannot catch any whales with SSCS around, the whalers have been shamefully exposed in corrupt activities in Japan and forced to apologize publicly, and the Nishin Maru factory ship has had a virtual death sentence placed upon her.

    Some talk too that Ginza Glenn Inwood has lost his crown as Mr Whaler Saviour and is no longer on the scene.

    Is this the end of the southern ocean whalers?

    • David

      There has been talk about every year being the last year for Japanese whaling in the Southern Ocean. And it has been wrong every year so far.

      The fleet is one ship less than last year and there is talk that a refueling/resupply ship has been contracted with.

      I assume you are referring to the new IMO guidelines as the ‘death sentence’ for the Nisshin Maru? If so then you are wrong. The banning of heavy fuel oil will just mean they will have to burn more exensive light fuel oil, their engines can burn either the heavy fuel oil is just cheaper. And the hull ‘guidelines’ are to be implemented as possible. No ‘death sentence’ in fact barely a flesh wound.

      But have fun making the same prediction every year. As the saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

      • Imforthewhales

        David, do yo know where the re-supply vessel you talk about is coming from?

      • David

        Nope. There have been some rumors on a few other forums but no specifics.

  • romika3

    “AnimuX, January 2, 2011 at 8:04 pm
    romika, every post you make is inevitably a rehashed version of the same “name calling” effort where you make false allegations about Sea Shepherd.” The term Terrorist or eco-terrorist does not fall under the category of name calling. No name calling on my part only the truth. You know but won’t admit it. Your posts (perhaps SSCS supported as their grand poo-ba is noted for name calling) are rattled with name calling.

    • AnimuX

      Unfortunately, you are wrong, once again and you continue “name calling” and misusing the word “terrorist” to evoke an emotional response.

      You repeatedly use this term in order to demonize activists who have NEVER actually or threatened to kill anyone, beat anyone up, or take hostages.

      You falsely compare the activists to real terrorists who murder thousands of innocent people.

      • romika3

        Evidence that SSCS is an eco-terrorist organization that used terrorist tactics can be viewed on youtube and on the series “Whale Wars”. Definiation of terrorist can be found online.

      • AnimuX

        Take whatever evidence you think you have and by all means go to court and find out why Sea Shepherd has NOT been charged as a “terrorist” organization.

        Your repeated accusations and exaggerations are tiresome, ignorant and factually incorrect.

      • Imforthewhales

        Its all very silly this terrorism garbage, really.

        If any of this was even remotely close to being truthful, then the new SSCS ship Gojira would not be flying an Australian flag. Period. SSCS ships would be banned from entering Australian and NZ ports.

        This is because there is a worldwide focus on terrorists and is the reason why whenever we board a plane, we need to have a current passport, a clean record and go through immigration, it is the reason why we cannot carry bottles of drink on a plane or carry any bottle of anything over 10 mls. Australia and NZ follow the USA lead on things such as air safety, in case some goon flies a plane into a building somewhere.

        SSCS, Paul Watson et al are free to come and go as they please from Australia, NZ and the USA.

        Do I need to tell you whose ships and crew ARE banned from Australian and NZ ports?

        Romika, please cut the cr8P, it wore thin a long time ago.

      • David

        “…it is the reason why we cannot carry bottles of drink on a plane or carry any bottle of anything over 10 mls…”

        Well I don’t know the rules where you live but in the US that isn’t the case. I flew on four different commercial planes over the Christmas holidays and had a 20 oz. bottle of drink with me on all of them.

      • Imforthewhales

        Have you ever flown out of the USA David..wasn’t talking about domestic flights.

  • romika3

    “Could someone explain to me what a court in Newfoundland has to do with whaling in Antarctica?”
    Watson and his pseudo-pirates dressed in SSCS tees shirts and wearing eco-Khufu bandannas rammed a ship and were carrying out the same kind of foolishness that he is presently doing in the Southern Ocean.
    “And could someone explain what credibility a Canadian court has on the subjects of whaling, sealing, logging, fishing, fish-farms and pollution? “
    This is rather an elitist comment to say the least
    “Canada’s conservation record is as abysmal as it is depressing. Both coasts have gone down the tubes thanks more too Canadian government incompetence and pandering than to any single industry.
    The conservation record of your country is not better, and perhaps worse.

    “Let’s keep our eye on the ball, folks. The topic at hand is how SSCS is in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary as we speak, issuing the whalers an ass-kicking of biblical proportions”

    This an great example of a representative of an organization (eco-terrorist organization) being backed into a corner. Can’t support so lets go play with another toy. This one statement alone shines a VERY bright light on the real truth about the SSCS. FOLKS AND EPIC FAIL OF BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS!!!!!!!

    • AnimuX

      Millions of people all over the world oppose what Japan is doing (as well as Iceland, and Norway) and they don’t need or receive a paycheck to speak out against whaling.

      What’s truly pathetic is your failure to realize that opposition to whaling is not limited to Sea Shepherd or any conservation organization.

      The “Save the Whales” movement started decades ago when the public learned more about whales including the fact that the world’s whaling industries had pushed nearly every species of large whale to the brink of extinction.

      Here is a list of endangered and threatened whales who were decimated by industrial whaling according to the IUCN:

      According to the IUCN:

      1. Blue Whale – Endangered (EN)
      2. Antarctic Blue Whale – Critically Endangered (CR)
      3. North Atlantic Blue Whale – Vulnerable (VU)
      4. Fin Whale – Endangered (EN)
      5. Chile-Peru Right Whale – Critically Endangered (CR)
      6. North Atlantic Right Whale – Endangered (EN)
      7. North Pacific Right Whale – Endangered (EN)
      8. Northeast Pacific Right Whale – Critically Endangered (CR)
      9. Sei Whale – Endangered (EN)
      10. Sperm Whale – Vulnerable (VU)
      11. Okhotsk Sea Bowhead Whale – Endangered (EN)
      12. Svaalbard-Barents Sea Bowhead Whale – Critically Endangered (CR)
      13. Arabian Sea Humpback Whale – Endangered (EN)
      14. Oceania Humpback Whale – Endangered (EN)
      15. Northwest Pacific Gray Whale – Critically Endangered (CR)

      • romika3

        I have never disputed these facts and the fact that there are many species endangered, at risk etc. To reflect from one of your previous posts “It’s pathetic that you can’t get it into your idiotic minds” that the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is NOT a conservation organization. They have no programs, they lie and distort data, the use terror and terrorist tactics to achieve their goals, they promote terror has a tool for change, they claim to deal with poachers yet they attack legal fisheries, on day Watson is one thing the next day he is another, Watson and the SSCS are not supported by the UN, they have NOT been given a mandate by anybody, any government or any NGO to do what they do, they are selective in what they target basing the decision on the money making and media potential, they are linked with and support organizations that promote cultural hate. Worst of all Watson is a bad actor dressing up in a Captain Kangaroo suit running around pretending to be Clint Eastwood being shot and saved by a piece of plate steel hung around his next with a shoelace, acting like he is a vegetarian yet consuming a herd of cattle annually, dancing with the stars to prey on their need to have their ego stroked and at the same time running off with bags of their money. SSCS is an embarrassment to conservation and the conservation movement plain and simple and nothing will change that.

      • AnimuX

        romika, repeating the same lies doesn’t change the facts. Watson has been going out to sea to physically intervene against destructive and cruel industries and poachers since the 1970s. He created the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society for the purpose of taking direct action.

        He’s gone out to sea with little money and no publicity and he’s gone out to sea with loads of donations and television crews. They do not use “terror tactics” and have NEVER threatened or actually killed anybody, beaten anybody up, or taken anyone hostage. They throw stink bombs, not grenades. They shoot cameras, not machine guns. Throwing stink bombs at a boat is NOT terrorism.

        And as a matter of fact, Sea Shepherd’s action has worked.

        It played a significant role in ending the scourge of pirate whaling in the late 70s and early 80s.

        It has helped arm and equip the law enforcement entities responsible for protecting world heritage sites like Cocos and the Galapagos.

        It has exposed illegal fishing and shark finning operations.

        And today, Japanese officials have admitted that Sea Shepherd’s actions have created political pressure and diminished their illicit whaling catch.

        Not to mention the fact that “Whale Wars” has brought the forgotten “Save the Whales” movement back into the living rooms of millions of households world-wide.

        That is a measurable impact for the good of biodiversity in support of international conservation efforts.

      • David

        *yawn*

    • romika3

      “Watson has been going out to sea to physically intervene against destructive and cruel industries and poachers since the 1970s. He created the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society for the purpose of taking direct action.” You have left out the fact that he has attacked legal and managed harvests.

      He’s gone out to sea with little money and no publicity and he’s gone out to sea with loads of donations and television crews.

      “They do not use “terror tactics” and have NEVER threatened or actually killed anybody, beaten anybody up, or taken anyone hostage. They throw stink bombs, not grenades. They shoot cameras, not machine guns. Throwing stink bombs at a boat is NOT terrorism.” Sorry but this practice is violent and is classified as terror tactics.

      “And as a matter of fact, Sea Shepherd’s action has worked.” Watson is the one who has said it worked. His methods have resulted in “digging” and have actually worked against conservation.

      “It played a significant role in ending the scourge of pirate whaling in the late 70s and early 80s. ” There is still whaling in the countries he visited previously. He won’t return because he will be sent to the bottom.

      “It has helped arm and equip the law enforcement entities responsible for protecting world heritage sites like Cocos and the Galapagos.” This is perhaps the only one good this that SSCS has done.

      “It has exposed illegal fishing and shark finning operations.” and this is good as many shark populations are at risk.” This is only part of the story here.

      “And today, Japanese officials have admitted that Sea Shepherd’s actions have created political pressure and diminished their illicit whaling catch.

      “Not to mention the fact that “Whale Wars” has brought the forgotten “Save the Whales” movement back into the living rooms of millions of households world-wide.” Whale Wars promotes violence has a tool for change. The audience profile is mainly individuals who are attracted by the violence not the issue.

      “That is a measurable impact for the good of biodiversity in support of international conservation efforts.” The primary species harvested is minke which have healthy populations. Watson, as he demonstrated on Larry King live hasn’t a clue about the whale populations in the Southern Oceans. He is there for the money, media and the fame. That is his way, always was and always will be. Sorry

      • AnimuX

        What Watson and Sea Shepherd have demonstrated is that passionate individuals can take a stand against national governments and industry giants for environmental causes.

        In contrast, you have shown that your only purpose here is to repeatedly spew ignorant, tiresome and factually incorrect accusations and exaggerations about Sea Shepherd because your career choice (that of bashing the skulls of baby seals in Canada) has been the subject of protest as well.

  • AnimuX

    The fact is, romika is an “admitted” Canadian baby seal skull basher and has been the subject of Sea Shepherd protest. That is why he so doggedly demonizes the activists.

    • romika3

      There is no such thing as a “baby seal skull basher” as the term baby does not apply to seals, white coats have not been harvested since 1987 (24 years ago), and harvested seals are required to be taken with a rifle. In addition the issue with the SSCS is that it is a eco-terrorist organization that uses terror and terrorist tactics to acheive its goals, selects issues based on money making and media potential and lies and distorts data.

      • AnimuX

        The term is accurate and it applies to you, romika, because you have admitted that you are a Canadian who bashes in the skulls of baby seals for their skins. That’s your career and your legacy and it clearly shows through in your bias and slander against environmental organizations like Sea Shepherd.

      • romika3

        Animx a slight correction. It is called the annual seal harvest and is part of the annual fishing cycle that includes seal, lobster, crab, turbot and perhaps a cod fishery. The seal harvest is legal, managed and sustainable with a projected biomass approaching 9.5 million animals. The species is not endangered and the carcass is used for skin, seal oil products and in some cases the meat which by the way is an excellent source of protein. Aside from contributing towards the annual income of fisherpersons the hunt provide revenue to 17 organizations including the SSCS who depend on the hunt, in some cases for a considerable percentage of their annual revenue. It’s Friday afternoon now, what percentage of your cheque will come from monies made from the backs of common fisherpersons? Don’t forget to wash out you SSCS designer clothes on the weekend.

      • AnimuX

        It’s Canada’s annual blood bath of epic proportions where cruel drunks masquerading as fishermen shoot, slash, and bash in the skulls of baby seals to skin the helpless creatures for the fashion industry.

        If they beat puppies and kittens to death they’d be thrown in prison but for some reason the Canadian government supports the fatal bludgeoning of seal pups regardless of the fact that even the majority of Canadians oppose the baby seal slaughter.

      • AnimuX

        I find it interesting that sealer scum claim to be “common” or “front line” fishermen when the reality is there is nothing “common” about slaughtering thousands of baby seals and their industry fills a niche luxury market with pelts that are now banned in many markets around the world.

      • romika3

        “It’s Canada’s annual blood bath of epic proportions where cruel drunks masquerading as fishermen shoot, slash, and bash in the skulls of baby seals to skin the helpless creatures for the fashion industry.” you must get this kind of stuff for a box of popcorn and you are slipping into name calling mode which is one of the seven classes of propaganda. One uses this when they are backed into a corner and cannot support their arguments.

  • romika3

    In my last post of the day I would like to wish AnimuX, Crummy, Micheal, InfortheWhales, the rest of the crowd and even Paul Watson (despite being an eco-terrorist who selects issues based on their money and media potential, lies and distorts the truth etc) a happy and healthy New Year.

    • AnimuX

      A new year that will bring about renewed opposition to cruel and environmentally destructive industries like whaling, sealing and poaching.

      Not to mention big ratings for the next season of Whale Wars.

    • AnimuX

      *shazzam*

    • Michael Raymer

      Happy New Year romika.

      • Imforthewhales

        Happy new year all, for the whales! And the seals of course :)

  • Michael Raymer

    http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-110107-1.html

    “This is the ninth day since Sea Shepherd’s ships first encountered the Japanese whaling fleet. The Japanese whalers are quickly running out of time to secure their kill quota. I think we can confidently say that this will be a financially disastrous year for the whalers, and a humiliating year for the Japanese government for failing to remove Sea Shepherd as the thorn in the side of their despicable whaling industry.”

    Sheezus! ‘Nuff said.

    • Imforthewhales

      Amen to that!

  • Michael Raymer

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/whale-watch/diplomats-quick-to-put-japan-in-the-clear-over-sinking-20110107-19itr.html

    http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/editorial-110107-1.html

    ‘The latest revelation is in today’s Sydney Morning Herald where journalist Philip Dorling revealed that a last year, when the Ady Gil was rammed and destroyed by the Shonan Maru No. 2, “Australian diplomats were quick to absolve Japanese whalers of blame for the crash that sank the anti-whaling vessel Ady Gil a year ago, telling the U.S. embassy in Canberra the Japanese would ‘come away clean’ from any investigation.”’

  • Michael Raymer

    http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-110109-1.html

    http://www.icrwhale.org/pdf/110109ReleaseENG.pdf

    “Today marks the eleventh day since Sea Shepherd successfully located the Japanese whaling fleet before they could begin whaling. During this time, the Yushin Maru No. 2 and Yushin Maru No. 3 have been unable to fire single harpoon. The Yushin Maru No. 1 is presumably with the Nisshin Maru fleeing westward. A fishing vessel sighted them on January 9th relaying their position to Sea Shepherd. Considering the distance the Yushin Maru has covered during the last eleven days, the speed at which they are traveling, and the fact they only have one harpoon vessel with them, the chances of them whaling are low, and if any whaling has taken place, it will be minimal.”