Welfarist vegans sound a lot like non-vegans when talking to Abolitionists
In our short time converting to an unapologetic vegan blog, we’ve noticed that some vegans don’t like the abolitionist approach we lean towards. In fact, talking to welfarist vegans (those who advocate for the treatment of animals and not necessarily the use) sometimes feels reminiscent of talking to non-vegans. Check out some common arguments in action below, and tell us if you can see the parallels between a non-vegan argument and a welfarist one.
Non-Vegan: Just because I eat animals doesn’t mean I don’t love them. I always campaign for dogs and cats!
Vegan: All animals suffer and don’t want to die, it would be absurd to not want to harm some animals while continuing to eat others. Veganism is the only solution.
Welfarist: I’m campaigning against Sea World, it’s so bad what happens to the orcas.
Abolitionists: All animals suffer, it would be speciesist to promote protecting some animals and not all animals, we should campaign for people to go vegan. Veganism is the only solution.
Non-Vegan: I care about animals, I donate to animal groups all the time!
Vegan: Don’t you see how absurd it is to eat animals, but donate to save their lives? Being vegan is the answer. Donations don’t matter, your actions do.
Welfarist: We should always donate to organizations like MFA and PETA, every step counts.
Abolitionists: We don’t need to donate, being vegan and promoting veganism as the moral baseline is the answer. Donations don’t matter, your actions do.
Non-Vegan: I don’t buy products tested on animals, wear fur or eat foie gras, aren’t I awesome?
Vegan: You don’t buy products tested on animals, wear fur or eat foie gras but you still buy products made with animals, wear leather or wool and eat other animals. Do you really not see the connection? That’s wrong. Go Vegan.
Welfarist: We need to campaign against products that are tested on animals, the fur industry and foie gras, these industries are horrible!
Abolitionists: Campaigning against animal testing, fur or foie gras, etc. but not campaigning against the total use of animals only makes people feel comfortable with continuing to use some animals but not all animals. Single Issue Campaigns are ineffective and make no sense. Promote Veganism
Non-Vegan: I reduced my meat intake. Baby steps! I’m on a journey!
Vegan: Yes, but there is no difference between milk and steak. And if you know it’s not morally right to eat or wear animals, why not eliminate it? You really need to think about veganism as a lifestyle change.
Welfarist: Try meatless Monday! Baby steps! We’re all on a journey.
Abolitionists: Yes, but there is no difference between milk and steak. And if you know it’s not morally right to eat or wear animals, why not promote to eliminate all animal products without compromise? You really need to think about veganism as a lifestyle change.
Non-Vegans: We have laws that protect animals. Haven’t you heard of Temple Grandin?
Vegan: Laws are only there to make you feel better about killing animals. They’ve been around for 200 years and we’ve only see an increase in the killing of animals. The only real way to end animal suffering and death is to go vegan.
Welfarist: Laws are important, we need to fight for cage-less, bigger cages and more laws to protect animals.
Abolitionists: Laws are only there to make society feel better about killing animals. They’ve been around for 200 years and we’ve only see an increase in the killing of animals. The only real way to protect animals is to go vegan and promote veganism as a moral baseline.
Non-Vegan: Fuck you, vegans! You’ve ruined my dinner by making me feel guilty. I care about animals! Don’t tell me what to do! We all love animals in our way.
Vegan: I’m just trying to tell you what’s really happening. Can you please take some time to review these books and movies? I’m not judging, I’m trying to educate.
Welfarist: Fuck you, abolitionists! Don’t you see what I’m doing matters! You’re divisive and purist. Don’t tell me what to do, I love animals in my own way.
Abolitionists: I’m just trying to tell you on what’s really happening. Can you please take some time to review the abolitionist approach. I’m not judging, I’m trying to educate.
Non-Vegan: All vegans are the same, I hate PETA.
Vegan: We are all individuals, with a common goal. Not all vegans have to like PETA.
Welfarist: All abolitionists are the same, I hate Gary Francione.
Abolitionists: We are all individuals, with a common goal. Whether you like Gary Francione is irrelevant, what’s important is the message of veganism.
No one likes to be told that what they think is wrong, we get it. But when it comes to advocating for veganism, we have to put aside our own egos, and do what’s best for animals. However, when vegans and activists decide to get together in groups and organizations, the message of veganism is often compromised, or lost. Gary Francione’s approach is the only one that doesn’t compromise the message of veganism, and promotes it as a moral baseline. Take a step back, see the big picture, and do some reading on Gary Francione’s theory, before jumping to conclusions on the message of abolition. Then, let’s meet up and discuss how we can promote veganism.